ST Ride App - Tracker/dash/logger for STEPS motors

Frankie_r said:
I think that Strava Beacon, that works as Garmin Live Track
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Ok. It's nice feature. But I think I will have a big problem with Apple/Google when approving the App, because I will have to prove to them that I securely store personal data on my server and do not use it for my own "selfish" purposes ;)
 
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vadII said:
Ok. It's nice feature. But I think I will have a big problem with Apple/Google when approving the App, because I will have to prove to them that I securely store personal data on my server and do not use it for my own "selfish" purposes ;)
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Oh wow, I didn’t think it was a problem. However, in Garmin Live Track the live activity disappears as soon as the rider finishes it, Garmin stores the information just for the ride length. Maybe this helps?
 
Frankie_r said:
Oh wow, I didn’t think it was a problem. However, in Garmin Live Track the live activity disappears as soon as the rider finishes it, Garmin stores the information just for the ride length. Maybe this helps?
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Yes, maybe. But I don't know how it would have to be proven for Apple/Google
 
I rode my new Orbea Rise and recorded everything on the STRide app. I am so happy to be able to get this data which is not available in E-Tube, so I can understand how power settings and battery consumption work so I can maximize my riding enjoyment. I put the data in a spreadsheet and have a few questions I would like answers to so I can learn more about the bike's performance.
%Assist - is this percent of the torque settings in E-Tube, or max rated torque, or max rated power (Watts), or percent of rider input? What are the maximum power limits in each mode For the EP8 RS motor?
Can motor power or torque be extracted from the data? (Since we have cadence we could calculate power from torque or torque from power)
Can rider input power or torque be extracted?
 
DaveW2 said:
%Assist - is this percent of the torque settings in E-Tube, or max rated torque, or max rated power (Watts), or percent of rider input? What are the maximum power limits in each mode For the EP8 RS motor?
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Shimano doesn't explain it anywhere. I think this parameter means percent of max torque applied by a motor.

DaveW2 said:
Can motor power or torque be extracted from the data?
Can rider input power or torque be extracted?
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No
No
It's sad that Shimano did not implement those params into their datalogging protocol
 
The new version for Android is available.
It's possible to download Online maps regions into App's cache (this will be useful if you want to ride in an area where cellular service does not work)
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Unable to get view st ride on my i-watch version 6. running latest software. All data displays on my i-phone ( version 7). when I try to use watch it doesn't show data from St-ride on my phone. on watch it says connec to bike but never does connect. Any body have this problem
 
scarl said:
Unable to get view st ride on my i-watch version 6. running latest software. All data displays on my i-phone ( version 7). when I try to use watch it doesn't show data from St-ride on my phone. on watch it says connec to bike but never does connect. Any body have this problem
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Start STRide on your iPhone, after that start STRide on your watch and press "Connect" button on your watch. The App will connect to your bike and start displaying data on your watch.
 
Vadll - thanks for getting back to me. I will try this again but this is exactly the process I did. Once I hit connect on my i-watch it never does. Just spins like to trying to connect but never does. I will report back
 
scarl said:
Vadll - thanks for getting back to me. I will try this again but this is exactly the process I did. Once I hit connect on my i-watch it never does. Just spins like to trying to connect but never does. I will report back
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Same result - Error messages says app must be running on your phone which is was running . Also now I can't connect to my bike via the E-tube project app to adjust profiles - Weird because I could connect = the ST ride app on my phone but not E-tube app.
 
scarl said:
Same result - Error messages says app must be running on your phone which is was running . Also now I can't connect to my bike via the E-tube project app to adjust profiles - Weird because I could connect = the ST ride app on my phone but not E-tube app.
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Yes, it's very strange, because STRide uses different protocol to access a bike data.
Try to unpair your Shimano display at Bluetooth settings of your iPhone.
 
vadII said:
Yes, it's very strange, because STRide uses different protocol to access a bike data.
Try to unpair your Shimano display at Bluetooth settings of your iPhone.
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Unpairing worked to the extent that can now connect to the Shimano E-tube project app. But now the ST Ride app won't connect on my phone. There appears to be an motor update 4.1.8 which I plan on doing later. Maybe that will help all of this issues.
 
Hello
I want to use my ticwatch Pro Wear os watch for heart rate monitoring. With the app "heart for bluetooth" it provides heart rate information beacon over bluetooth. Stride is recognising it and shows the name of the watch, but after switching the bike on I hear a message "heart rate monitor is not connected".
It works fine with other sport apps.

How to solve this?
 
Jojo10 said:
Hello
I want to use my ticwatch Pro Wear os watch for heart rate monitoring. With the app "heart for bluetooth" it provides heart rate information beacon over bluetooth. Stride is recognising it and shows the name of the watch, but after switching the bike on I hear a message "heart rate monitor is not connected".
It works fine with other sport apps.

How to solve this?
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PM me and tell me what phone do you use. Also, please make a screen recording and show me how it works on your phone
 
Can any one explain the differance between St-Ride and St unlacker? I tried using ST-ride to pair with my i-watch but it never connects on my watch just the phone. Thinking about trying St-unlocker instead but not sure if it's the same thing or ? also somewhat concerned about st-unlocker and my warrenty. Why would Orbea care if I use st-unlocker with no intenetion of changing to max power.
 
scarl said:
Can any one explain the differance between St-Ride and St unlacker? I tried using ST-ride to pair with my i-watch but it never connects on my watch just the phone. Thinking about trying St-unlocker instead but not sure if it's the same thing or ? also somewhat concerned about st-unlocker and my warrenty. Why would Orbea care if I use st-unlocker with no intenetion of changing to max power.
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STUnlocker is for changing bike's settings
STRide is for saving/viewing your ride sessions.
 
Hello, I cannot configure my EP8 with the ST UNLOCKER application, even with the premium license. I'm not sure which .dat files should or should not be kept when connecting with iFunbox. there is a person who would directly have the files to be fed back into the application via iFunbox. Thanks in advance. under iphone XR
 
chrisknap said:
Hello, I cannot configure my EP8 with the ST UNLOCKER application, even with the premium license. I'm not sure which .dat files should or should not be kept when connecting with iFunbox. there is a person who would directly have the files to be fed back into the application via iFunbox. Thanks in advance. under iphone XR
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This thread is not for STUnlocker App.
Email to me if you have any questions about downgrading
 
vadII said:
This thread is not for STUnlocker App.
Email to me if you have any questions about downgrading
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Hi, I'm interested in being able to see a bit more information from my bike, battery, cadence, distance etc, I have a garmin fenix 3 HR would the ST Ride App do this for me without voiding any warranty etc on my Orbe Rise 2021? Thanks
 
locoboy said:
Hi, I'm interested in being able to see a bit more information from my bike, battery, cadence, distance etc, I have a garmin fenix 3 HR would the ST Ride App do this for me without voiding any warranty etc on my Orbe Rise 2021? Thanks
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Could you explain how can STRide void a bike's warranty? Your bike (display) is an ordinary Bluetooth device that has public services that sends telemetry without any special commands, protocols, etc (you can get this telemetry data from your bike using any Bluetooth LE browser App). There is no difference between it and an ordinary bluetooth sensor like HRM, high speed GPS receiver, etc.
 
vadII said:
Could you explain how can STRide void a bike's warranty? Your bike (display) is an ordinary Bluetooth device that has public services that sends telemetry without any special commands, protocols, etc (you can get this telemetry data from your bike using any Bluetooth LE browser App). There is no difference between it and an ordinary bluetooth sensor like HRM, high speed GPS receiver, etc.
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I wasn't sure so asked a question.
Thanks.
 
@vadII Thank you for all your effort. Your app is f******** awesome, I totally love it!

May I put a feature request? I use STRide with an Apple Watch. Can you integrate Workouts to the Apple Watch Fitness app? It must be possible somehow, it works with Runtastic and Strava, too.
 
h3rrm said:
@vadII Thank you for all your effort. Your app is f******** awesome, I totally love it!

May I put a feature request? I use STRide with an Apple Watch. Can you integrate Workouts to the Apple Watch Fitness app? It must be possible somehow, it works with Runtastic and Strava, too.
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Ok, I'll check it
Thanks
 
vadII said:
I'm working on this, but didn't find Shimano commands for changing assist mode yet. Moreover, the only one way is to switch between Eco/Trail/Boost. It's not possible to increase/decrease assist level on fly.
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Any update on whether heart rate assistance change is possible on the Orbea Rise? And did I understand you correctly that the EP8 motor cannot change assistance on the fly? So you have to stop the bike before changing from Eco to Trail or Boost? Sounds silly on Shimano's part if that's the case.

Thanks.
 
vadII said:
Who said you that??? This is nonsense...
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Sorry I misunderstood what you said earlier in the thread about changing assistance level on the fly. I went to Orbea's website and clearly the Rise has a rocker pad on the left bar for changing the riding modes on the fly.

I use Blevo on my Turbo Levo Comp and use the heart rate assist function on most rides. It's not a deal breaker for me switching to a Rise but it sure would be nice if your ST Ride App eventually gets this functionality. Glad to hear you are working on it.

When riding non-technical bike paths for distance/exercise I have the Smart Eco setting in Blevo set to go from 1% up to 10% assist when my heart rate exceeds 132 bpm. And Smart Trail set from 11% up to 20%. I configure Smart Turbo for 80% assist since I rarely use it.

BTW I use an Iphone and Apple watch if that matters for my HRM assist ?s

Thanks!
 
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