Levo Gen 3 SRAM XX1 or XO1 Chain?

[akira]

Upgrading my stock chain at 500 miles on my Levo Expert. Would you run the XX1 or XO1?

 

[Mcharza]

I would run XO1 if its 12-speed or buy two GX chain and change them about every 300-400 km.
This way you will make them last well.

 

[akira]

I would run XO1 if its 12-speed or buy two GX chain and change them about every 300-400 km.
This way you will make them last well.

My derailleur is an XO1 12 speed. Any reason you suggest the XO1 vs. XX1?

 

[Mcharza]

My derailleur is an XO1 12 speed. Any reason you suggest the XO1 vs. XX1?

Just the money
And it's good enough, I have ridden with that chain my mtb over 2500 km

 

[F4Flyer]

Are the XX1 chains also nitride coated? It is the reason I'll go with the XX1 cassette over the X01 when I upgrade. I'll likely use the XX1 chain too.

 

[akira]

the XX1 chain is only $25 additional USD.

 

[Mcharza]

Your money, your choice.
But read this first, even it's a 11-speed compare Complete SRAM Eagle Comparison - What's the difference between NX, GX, X01 & XX1?

 

[RustyIron]

Upgrading my stock chain at 500 miles on my Levo Expert. Would you run the XX1 or XO1?

The difference is the XX1 gets a titanium nitride coating.
I don't like the look of it, so I run X01.

 

[Charliektm400exc]

Have a read of this guy and what he has to say in his tests ab XX1, and X01 and GX chains

Zero Friction Cycling

I went with X01.

 

[Mcharza]

Here's a link to chain test Finding the best bicycle chain: What over 3,000 hours of testing revealed - CyclingTips

 

[akira]

thanks all! great info and links.

cheers

 

[F4Flyer]

Got a XX1 chain in...will hopefully be reliable/. Cassette- maybe later but XO1 or XX1.

 

[Bontee]

Upgrading my stock chain at 500 miles on my Levo Expert. Would you run the XX1 or XO1?

I believe that X01 is a heavier duty chain ,XX1 is lighter for cross country bikes, so not as suitable for full fat e bikes,I would suggest you fit the gold version of the XO1,I have one on my TK01-RR which is not light !
So far 654 miles and no wear according to the chain guage,running the original XT 12 speed cassette.
all the best

 

[F4Flyer]

I was told that the only diff in the XO1 and XX1 chains and cassettes is the coating. XX1, theoretically, should last a bit longer than X01, and both quite a bit longer than GX.

 

[High Rock Ruti]

High Rock Ruti

I just bought two 12 sp chains $24 each I carry a spare in my pack I break 2 a year give or take. E bikes eat drive trains 750 to 950 miles. Has anyone tried shimano's new m4100 cassette, chain, shifter, derailleur $159 USD speaking to Shimano it's recommended for e bikes

Warm Regards Ruti

 

[akira]

I believe that X01 is a heavier duty chain ,XX1 is lighter for cross country bikes, so not as suitable for full fat e bikes,I would suggest you fit the gold version of the XO1,I have one on my TK01-RR which is not light !
So far 654 miles and no wear according to the chain guage,running the original XT 12 speed cassette.
all the best

This is what I have heard as well. But checking the factory spec on a Levo S-Works I see it’s fitted with the XX1 and the Levo Pro is fitted with the XO1. I know either are huge improvement over the GX chain fitted on my Expert.

 

[akira]

What's the difference between a SRAM PC XX1 12spd chain and a SRAM XX1 12spd chain?

 

[akira]

xx1 has hollow pins i use the 12spd gx chain

I’m replacing the stock SRAM GX chain. Interested to know what the “PC” stands for in some listings of the XX1 chain.

 

[F4Flyer]

Who told you that? Hollow-pin chains are stronger.

 

[F4Flyer]

My full-power Levo had hollow-pin all its life and has way more power than the Levo SL....zero issues. What is true is that the older 8/9 speed chains would stretch less. The new hollow pins are (even according to SRAM and Shiman) stronger than their solid pins due to the shot-peening process that tapers the ends. I have had no issues at all either bikes or regular bikes but I don't go 5 years without replacing a chain either. I replace the chain and cassette by year 3 for sure.

 

[akira]

back to the question...what's the difference between a PC XX1 chain vs a XX1 chain?

 

[akira]

hollow pin means less waight on a ebike it is pointless using them

Thanks for your pointless comments. This thread is not about running GX chains.

 

[akira]

yet i have done thousands of miles with my gx chain and had 12sp eagle as soon as it came out.

if you want to save 2 grams on hollow pin chains and pay double the price it is your money.

I want hollow pin for twice the price. That's why i'm going with an XX1 chain...and because every test shows results that an XO1 or XX1 chain out performs the GX chain.

Now who knows what the “PC” stands for in some listings of the XX1 chain.

 

[Mcharza]

my bike goes 35mph and it did come with a 11spd hollow pin chain it did not last 6 months with a dongle.

i have a xx1 mech and shifter and a gx chain is 23 quid and not 60 so ill save my money

What were you thinking of saving? Did you read the # 10 post where's the facts

 

[akira]

What were you thinking of saving? Did you read the # 10 post where's the facts

…but he goes 35mph down the drag strip

 

[akira]

Here’s the answer from SRAM regarding the “PC” listing on chains.

 

[akira]

SRAM NX Eagle 12 Speed Chain | Chain Reaction

SRAM NX Eagle 12 Speed Chain - Lowest Prices and FREE shipping available from The World's largest online bike store - Chain Reaction Cycles

www.chainreactioncycles.com

27 quid and is 278g.

SRAM PCXX1 Eagle 12 Speed Chain | Chain Reaction

SRAM PCXX1 Eagle 12 Speed Chain - Lowest Prices and FREE shipping available from The World's largest online bike store - Chain Reaction Cycles

www.chainreactioncycles.com

gold 71 quid and 276g,

the only performance gain is your wallet being depleted for every one you buy to sram you wont notice a 2g difference on a ebike.

they do look nice tho but with any chain the best way to look after it is to keep it clean as possible and lubed as the reason chains stretch is because the rollers get worn down and they sit on the bushing and the pin holds them both together.

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You sure are an advocate for the inferior GX chain. Thanks for your feedback, but I’ll be going with the XO1 or XX1 chain. Every test shows the higher end chains will outlast the GX chain by about 2x.

I’m betting you will comment again trolling this thread that you don’t care about facts as shared in post #10 and how the GX chain makes you go 35mph. Do us all a favor and preach your GX chain theory somewhere else.

 

[MrSimmo]

Im pretty sure PC stands for Powerchain; the difference, I believe, is the Powerchain’s have chrome hardened rivet pins.

 

[SteveRS]

I have approximately 800 km’s on the stock chain. Had it measured today at the LBS and it was perfect . Still looks and works like new. I think maintenance is the key to longevity. I clean the drive train completely after each ride. That includes brushing out the links as well. Not over oiling the chain is important as well. The oil needs to penetrate the rollers and pins, not sit on the surface collecting dirt to prematurely damage everything.

 

[ebikerider]

1800kms out of an XX1 chain and the OEM SRAM chainring on my KSL. Started making noise under power the past couple of rides so I replaced them both. X01 chain this time and a Oneup alloy chainring.