Killer bike! Can I ask you a question? Is there any chance you can measure the stand over at the rear shock mount/ top tube meeting point? Just checking, the lbs near me has a s2 evo and the top tube seems really high for a small.
Levo Gen 4 Specialized Gen 4 Levo - Official Thread
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Thank you so much, it’s the same as the s2 I measured. 31.5 inches is a really tall stand over for a small and medium frame. It’s pretty much the same as my Kenevo expert. It’s why I am shopping for a new e bike, getting tired of smashing the boys on the top tube.Sure. All measurments from the floor ofcourse
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Eduardinior
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We have some news on whether we will have any updates soon ?
Moved fork and shock from my old Gen3, just to see how it will be. That is smashpoted 180mm ZEB ultimate and Vivid coil ultimate (with cascade long link). So this Evo has basically everything moved from my old Gen3.
Actual weight now with all coils, 852Wh battery and gravity radial tyres is 24,76kg.
What suprised me- that is exacltly 360grams more than Gen3 with same parts. I was thinkink it will be around 1kg...
As for the suspension- old fork with smashpot feels better than the new Zeb bike came with.
But maybe its because I have it tuned to my liking, and the new zeb probably needs more time and patience to set it right.
Rear- has simillar sag with the same spring but needs more progression so probably the new cascade long link for gen4 will fix this.
Actual weight now with all coils, 852Wh battery and gravity radial tyres is 24,76kg.
What suprised me- that is exacltly 360grams more than Gen3 with same parts. I was thinkink it will be around 1kg...
As for the suspension- old fork with smashpot feels better than the new Zeb bike came with.
But maybe its because I have it tuned to my liking, and the new zeb probably needs more time and patience to set it right.
Rear- has simillar sag with the same spring but needs more progression so probably the new cascade long link for gen4 will fix this.
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Not to be a bit of a downer but I would not run any coil shock with an alloy shaft on that bike. The long shock yoke puts a lot of load on the shock. The Kenevo was well know for snapping alloy shock shafts.
Wasn't the Vivid coil one of the shocks with a thick enough shaft for this? The previous Super Deluxe Coil was mentioned by Specialized as being ok to use on the gen 3.
Hello. Quick question/ need advice. It’s maybe been covered in here somewhere, but is it fine to remove the battery from the bike every time to charge it ??? I have a very very small house so the new side loading battery / gen 4 design, was a huge selling point for me. I’m very careful when removing. I have an alloy Levo Evo
DuncanDoughnuts
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Yes
Hi, the battery doesn't care if it's charged in the bike or the apartment... so yes it's ok
frankz999
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Hi all. Got my Turbo Levo 4 yesterday and am also disappointed because of the range. With the Levo 3 I managed in the eco 25/35 mode tours with 1800hm and 70 km...
Dates of the tour with Levo 4 from today:
- 51km
- 1000hm
- The last 20km downhill or flat.
- Battery consumption 55%
- The first 15km with eco 20/25, the rest with Microtune 20/20
- Shuttle/response/etc. at minimum or off
- I already exchanged the Butcher on the HR for an Eli T7/T9 before the ride.
Will it be even better or do I have to change the settings? My weight is 95kg without backpack.
Dates of the tour with Levo 4 from today:
- 51km
- 1000hm
- The last 20km downhill or flat.
- Battery consumption 55%
- The first 15km with eco 20/25, the rest with Microtune 20/20
- Shuttle/response/etc. at minimum or off
- I already exchanged the Butcher on the HR for an Eli T7/T9 before the ride.
Will it be even better or do I have to change the settings? My weight is 95kg without backpack.
singletrackminded
Active member
anyone tried the Levo Evo link with the 62.5 x 210 shock to boost the Gen4 Kevo to 170 rear travel?
Kramer
New Member
What's your cadence like?
Idlefrog
Member
So that's roughly the same isn't it? 51km using 55% battery would suggest the range using 100% battery would be 92.7km, so slightly better.
frankz999
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70-80
frankz999
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I am not concerned about the km, it’s hm
Yeah and you would've gotten about 1.800m at that rate. 90km and 1,800m @ 95kg...I'm not really sure there's much to complain about here tbh. Can you not buy the range extender if you want more?
Kramer
New Member
Maybe try a lower gear and faster cadence to get to 85 average?
Eduardoramundo
E*POWAH Master
Just put the bike in “auto minus” and away you go. 1,800m is easily achievable.
Gila Man
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Desert_Turtle
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I’m just dropping in here randomly to offer up af couple opinions. I’ve now owned my SWorks Levo 4 since 1 week prior to their launch in April of 2025. I like the bike a lot. It rides almost exactly the same as my Gen3 but the frame is stiffer which makes the bike feel even more solid. Other small differences make it better overall. I did have 2 major problems when I got it. 1) the battery cradle and 2) the cable from the motor to the derailleur went bad which caused the bike to not power up. Once I got past that the bike has been great. I have put more miles on my gen4 than my last gen3.
Right before they announced the new Amflow that’s coming out I purchased the PL for $6100. That was an out the door price shipped to my house. I rode the bike a little and then sold it for what I paid for it. I like the levo better but I see why a majority of people swear by the Amflow. Technologically there’s no comparison but the fit and finish of the bike is marginal and the chassis itself is mediocre. I use that word, mediocre, because it’s not bad, it’s just so so…..but the design and features are excellent. I do see why people like it. For the more enduro type riding the chassis falls short in my opinion. Here’s how I’ll sum it up. My SWorks Levo is not worth 2 Amflows. That’s it.
As far as the recent North American price reductions go, those are a game changer because the value is there. You can’t buy a comparably equipped anything with the same spec as the SWorks Levo for the same price. It’s crazy because the SWorks Levo is over $4k less than the SWorks Epic 9 which is an Amish XC bike!
My hope is that Specialized has 1 more power update coming because the motor and tech is behind the competition. They can still compete on quality, service and now price but that’s it. There are too many Avinox powered bikes coming out. Anyway, that’s my take on Soecialized right now.
Right before they announced the new Amflow that’s coming out I purchased the PL for $6100. That was an out the door price shipped to my house. I rode the bike a little and then sold it for what I paid for it. I like the levo better but I see why a majority of people swear by the Amflow. Technologically there’s no comparison but the fit and finish of the bike is marginal and the chassis itself is mediocre. I use that word, mediocre, because it’s not bad, it’s just so so…..but the design and features are excellent. I do see why people like it. For the more enduro type riding the chassis falls short in my opinion. Here’s how I’ll sum it up. My SWorks Levo is not worth 2 Amflows. That’s it.
As far as the recent North American price reductions go, those are a game changer because the value is there. You can’t buy a comparably equipped anything with the same spec as the SWorks Levo for the same price. It’s crazy because the SWorks Levo is over $4k less than the SWorks Epic 9 which is an Amish XC bike!
My hope is that Specialized has 1 more power update coming because the motor and tech is behind the competition. They can still compete on quality, service and now price but that’s it. There are too many Avinox powered bikes coming out. Anyway, that’s my take on Soecialized right now.
I still don’t get why North America was the only region to get the price drop, it’s crazy. I get the Pro Program pricing in the US but can’t use it in the UK either.
Levo 4 sizing S4 vs S5 at 194cm with short arms?
Looking for some real-world sizing feedback from Levo 4 owners, particularly anyone who’s ridden S4 and S5.
My measurements:
For reference, I’ve done around 50 miles on a Large 2021 Haibike AllMtn 7 (461mm reach / ~650mm stack / 50mm stem) and I really like my arm and torso position. No back, shoulder, neck or hand discomfort. Saddle comfort is the only issue but that may be saddle it’s borrowed of my dad.
I’ve sat on both Levo 4 sizes. S4 initially felt like there wasn’t quite enough bike underneath me, while S5 immediately felt like a much bigger bike. But these were only shop sits, not proper rides, and the more time I spend on the Haibike, the more I realise I actually like a fairly compact cockpit well my arms do.
My riding is mixed long rides, green lanes, woodland, exploring and trails, with comfort over several hours more important than having the biggest/most aggressive setup.
Any Levo 4 owners around 195cm, particularly with a negative ape index, running S4 or S5?
I’d be interested in your height, wingspan/ape index, size, stem/bar setup and how it feels on longer rides.
I’m trying not to choose S5 simply because the height chart says so.
Looking for some real-world sizing feedback from Levo 4 owners, particularly anyone who’s ridden S4 and S5.
My measurements:
- Height: 194cm barefoot
- Wingspan: 184cm
- Ape index: 0.95 (-10cm)
- Inseam: 90cm
- Torso: ~62–63cm
- Shoulder width: ~53cm
- Shoulder to wrist: ~56cm
For reference, I’ve done around 50 miles on a Large 2021 Haibike AllMtn 7 (461mm reach / ~650mm stack / 50mm stem) and I really like my arm and torso position. No back, shoulder, neck or hand discomfort. Saddle comfort is the only issue but that may be saddle it’s borrowed of my dad.
I’ve sat on both Levo 4 sizes. S4 initially felt like there wasn’t quite enough bike underneath me, while S5 immediately felt like a much bigger bike. But these were only shop sits, not proper rides, and the more time I spend on the Haibike, the more I realise I actually like a fairly compact cockpit well my arms do.
My riding is mixed long rides, green lanes, woodland, exploring and trails, with comfort over several hours more important than having the biggest/most aggressive setup.
Any Levo 4 owners around 195cm, particularly with a negative ape index, running S4 or S5?
I’d be interested in your height, wingspan/ape index, size, stem/bar setup and how it feels on longer rides.
I’m trying not to choose S5 simply because the height chart says so.
Jeff McD
Well-known member
I'm somewhat similar to you but a bit smaller. Height 183 cm, inseam 82 cm. I am basically a person with a very long torso but short arms and legs. My last bike the Levo3, I was recovering from a rather severe shoulder injury with significant weakness in that arm, and needed a very stable bike so I went with an S5. I had previously been on an S4. I fought with the handling of that larger bike the entire three years I had it and in retrospect hated it. With the Gen4 I had fully recovered from the injury so I went back to the S4. I was nervous because we don't have demo bikes to ride first in my rural LBS. So of course the best advice would be you need to ride an S4 & S5 really to decide this.
S4 worked out great for me however. What I found with the S4 is that I'm a bit cramped on it yes but I slide the saddle back, a 50 mm stem, 50 mm rise handlebar (old spinal injury) and I'm very comfortable on it. The smaller bike is simply more fun because it's more poppy, easily maneuverable/controllable in tight tech sections where you are barely moving while creeping around something, and can flip it back-and-forth, side to side easily on fast, twisty technical downhill trails. The older S5 did not have these features. It was more stable but it was hard to flick around and maneuver around things and hard on fast alternating turns downhill trails. I will gladly trade the slightly cramped reach on the bike for these benefits. It only bothers me on prolonged downhills where your quads are screaming and you just need to sit down for a bit to give them a bit of a rest and then stand up again. But I'll put up with that for everything else. We have tight technical trails and we go for long rides of 3 to 5 hours like you. I ride aggressively with the fast group. Hope this helps.
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Eduardoramundo
E*POWAH Master
S4 is definitely too small.
Eduardinior
Member
Do we have any news on whether we will have any new updates?
calot
New Member
ive got a firmware update today for both bikes. not sure whats new, but display has a new version number - its updating now, will see if there are any patch notes
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