Levo Gen 4 Specialized Gen 4 Levo - Official Thread

emtbeast said:
I agree and I also think that this is an intentional (marketing) mistake launched by someone with a reason, all reviewers are talking about it, there is a sub 20kg version, some saying 19,9 some 19,6...most say it's with the 600, some say it's only with the extender(which it probably is), nothing is clear, the view of the bike version hanging from the scale(that isn't turned on)...

It's a psychological trick...with confusion you make people remember better as they are talking more about it, just like us now, and so unintentionaly creating free marketing for a product.

As a big percentage of population isn't tech savy and will allow myself to say, also pretty naive, this approach works pretty good.

While it's possible to create a good mid lightweight version of the bike with the 600, that is only possible with some extra $ lightweight parts.

But buying another 600Wh on top of a new bike for a kg of weight savings, not really viable imo. The only hope is, later on they offer bikes with a choice for the battery size.

Made a little comparison table just for an example what is actually possible, some parts I own and some random...could be a mistake here or there...don't kill the messenger 😂

Imo 22kg is a goldilocks zone for emtbs ✌

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The stock I9 stem is lighter than the Deity Copperhead.
 
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Tim1023 said:
Two things related to me also using my Levo to commute to the office:

1. Controversial point here: I'd actually want to have a key to get the battery out. I've already had one Levo stolen form outside my office. With just needing an allen key, some little shit could easily steal the battery. They break bikes up for the parts anyway.

2. The Find My feature is a great idea. Shame that it's just for isheep and not Android users (more popular in Europe). As if they thought that many of their customers paid over the odds just for the brand...
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Great perspectives. Curious if you have room in your office to have your bike next to your desk. It would look nice, and be much more secure :cool:
 
Interesting that their dyno results were lower than expected/quoted, but then the quoted power is probably the drawn power from the battery rather than the output power at the crank (which is quite normal).

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Also at lower input power levels for comparison :

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Post # 160
Gen 3 allready had the Headtube angle adjust, Bottom bracket/ chainstay adjust.
Did not have the shock adjust but that’s what Cascade components are for as I did for the long travel link I presently have.
29” tire will NOT fit.
Appplicable voltage is 52v not 48v, there is a difference.
As far as the battery being thicker because of added cells I have to disagree as they only added (2) additional cells to the new battery compared to the 700w version.

You also mentioned that the gen 4 is cheaper than the gen 3.
Here in SD here’s some current pricing.
S works: gen3-11.5k. Gen4-13.5k
Pro: “ - 9k. “ - 11k.
Expert: “ - 8k. “. - 9.5k
Carbon Comp: “. - 7k. “. - 8k

One last observation as far as the gen 4 is concerned.

With the oversized downtube which is pretty noticeable EVERYONE will know that you have the bike with the “option” of having your max speed increased from 20-28mph.
At least with guys in the know.
Having a bike deristricted by other means is more stealth and “blend” in a bit easier with all the other class 1 bikes.

Gonna stop by my LBS this afternoon on the way home from picking up a set of CF Roval mullet wheelset that a guy is selling on PB that he pulled off his new stump jumper. Got 2 rides on em.
Im stoked.
 
Just noticed something interesting on the Specialized US webpage. The Turbo Levo Gen 3 Comp Carbon is on sale for $7,499 USD while the Turbo Levo Gen 4 Comp Carbon list price is $7,999. That's only a $500 difference.
 
mvtomas said:
Just noticed something interesting on the Specialized US webpage. The Turbo Levo Gen 3 Comp Carbon is on sale for $7,499 USD while the Turbo Levo Gen 4 Comp Carbon list price is $7,999. That's only a $500 difference.
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Yeah, website is a little strange. Walk into a retail store and you'll see bigger discounts. I don't know about the Gen 3 Comp Carbon but I can say with certainty that the Gen 3 Comp Alloy is $4,699 right now in stores when the Specialized website says $6,499.

That's just weird and a poor reflection on a brand that I've followed and appreciated for a long time. I haven't yet owned a Specialized but after this Gen 4 release, I'm planning to get one of the base models. I'm going to wait until the Comp Alloy comes out to compare and then decide. Current personal training focus is to climb Half Dome within the next few months so not doing any riding at all until then anyway.
 
Greeno said:
You also mentioned that the gen 4 is cheaper than the gen 3.
Here in SD here’s some current pricing.
S works: gen3-11.5k. Gen4-13.5k
Pro: “ - 9k. “ - 11k.
Expert: “ - 8k. “. - 9.5k
Carbon Comp: “. - 7k. “. - 8k

Don’t be a tool. Of course retail prices for the gen3 bikes are lower now. You need to be comparing the prices before the gen4 was around. Thats kind of the point. A year ago it would cost you more to buy the equivalent Levo.
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Greeno said:
Post # 160


You also mentioned that the gen 4 is cheaper than the gen 3.
Here in SD here’s some current pricing.
S works: gen3-11.5k. Gen4-13.5k
Pro: “ - 9k. “ - 11k.
Expert: “ - 8k. “. - 9.5k
Carbon Comp: “. - 7k. “. - 8k
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Pretty sure that he was talking about the prices before Gen3 went on fire sale for the release of Gen4. The Gen3 S-Work last few years was $15k, so the $13.5 was a drop as were all the other levels.
 
Has anyone else ridden the Levo 4 yet. I picked my pro up yesterday and went on a 20 mile loop with 3800 ft of elevation. The bike preformed well in almost all areas but my motor has a significant rattle when descending. This was one of the reasons I moved to the Levo after coming off a Yeti 160e and then a Pivot Shuttle LT both with the ep8 rattle buckets. Curious if anyone else is having this issue as the reviews keep commenting on how quiet the bike is on both the accents and descents.
 
ckkone said:
Was mentioned in at least one review and you can hear it in others. You could start the "GEN 4 Levo Issues" thread.
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Only seen in one video review, others not experiencing.. Would take it in and have it looked at by dealer
 
Power1tobe said:
Again listening to the design manger, the trade off of the removable battery / larger battery / SWAT Box and lowering the center of gravity is what drove the larger down tube. "Don't remember anyone complaining", everyone complained as they wanted faster / easier access to the battery. As for structural strength, they actually added material (all the complaints about the large downtube), the opening design has little impact on strength unless you ride around without the cover. Where Specialized missed out here was was not developing a modular battery design (Stacking), like a 420watt 1/2 stack and a full 840watt stack in the tube). That would have allowed for a very quick solution to drop kilos if you weren't concerned about range.
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yeah thats what im saying, 600 main and 280 snaps in to make 880. no swat box, too high on frame anyway.
Ill probably buy the extra 600.
 
Greeno said:
Post # 160
Gen 3 allready had the Headtube angle adjust, Bottom bracket/ chainstay adjust.
Did not have the shock adjust but that’s what Cascade components are for as I did for the long travel link I presently have.
29” tire will NOT fit.
Appplicable voltage is 52v not 48v, there is a difference.
As far as the battery being thicker because of added cells I have to disagree as they only added (2) additional cells to the new battery compared to the 700w version.

You also mentioned that the gen 4 is cheaper than the gen 3.
Here in SD here’s some current pricing.
S works: gen3-11.5k. Gen4-13.5k
Pro: “ - 9k. “ - 11k.
Expert: “ - 8k. “. - 9.5k
Carbon Comp: “. - 7k. “. - 8k

One last observation as far as the gen 4 is concerned.

With the oversized downtube which is pretty noticeable EVERYONE will know that you have the bike with the “option” of having your max speed increased from 20-28mph.
At least with guys in the know.
Having a bike deristricted by other means is more stealth and “blend” in a bit easier with all the other class 1 bikes.

Gonna stop by my LBS this afternoon on the way home from picking up a set of CF Roval mullet wheelset that a guy is selling on PB that he pulled off his new stump jumper. Got 2 rides on em.
Im stoked.
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Those are the discounted prices look at the initial prices 4 years ago. basically everything is $1500 less than 2021.
 
Don't know why but all Levo's I have had has ended with NB in the model like this one.
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RichMorr said:
It’s for the battery, NB new battery or 700 watts. This is what I read somewhere.
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You're probably right it was on the 2023 comp and this 2024 comp carbon both with 700 battery and I have always wondered what it means 😆
 
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