it was around $6,000. I don't want to pay 9K-10K for another bike right now, and that current Race motor seems to be reliable.
So ... any rumors on when CX Gen 5 Pivot Shuttle AM will come out?
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GravityCat
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Maybe it's a new SX that's at least 80nm and an efficiency to tease 4000ft+ of vertical out of a 400w battery. I'd consider.
GravityCat
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Which build if you don't mind sharing? The current race motor is fine especially on a stellar deal.
It was the SLX/XT build. I will eventually upgrade the drivetrain to full XT. I alas have a Chris King extra wheelset with Revel carbon rims. If I can upgrade that to Super Boost, I'll put that on.
EDventure_Outdoors
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Here it is: Pivot Cycles
RickBullotta
E*POWAH Elite World Champion
I really wish Pivot would dump SuperBoost rear wheel spacing though. That decision makes it incompatible with all the stuff I already own. Makes it a non-starter for me, as I like to be able to move wheels between bikes.
Garru
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nice eh! but two years late now...I'm afraid that even the future full power AM will not be anything revolutionary if it keeps the Bosch...(dji is the master).
GravityCat
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Everything looks great on the AM SL except for that legacy SX motor 
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I ‘d buy it 2 years ago but not today as an upgrade to the SL as much as I want the travel. Left to consider what Yeti and and the TQ60 are bringing to the table of lighter bikes. Maybe the mid power motors are just stagnant which lead to the motor decision on the AM SL. I am honestly baffled with the motor decision and market timing on the LT earlier and this one. I’ll go ride but won’t hold my breath although secretly hoping for a stellar LT SL!
.I ‘d buy it 2 years ago but not today as an upgrade to the SL as much as I want the travel. Left to consider what Yeti and and the TQ60 are bringing to the table of lighter bikes. Maybe the mid power motors are just stagnant which lead to the motor decision on the AM SL. I am honestly baffled with the motor decision and market timing on the LT earlier and this one. I’ll go ride but won’t hold my breath although secretly hoping for a stellar LT SL!
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RickBullotta
E*POWAH Elite World Champion
Everything looks great on the AM SL except for that legacy SX motor
I ‘d buy it 2 years ago but not today as an upgrade to the SL as much as I want the travel. Left to consider what Yeti and and the TQ60 are bringing to the table of lighter bikes. Maybe the mid power motors are just stagnant which lead to the motor decision on the AM SL. I am honestly baffled with the motor decision and market timing on the LT earlier and this one. I’ll go ride but won’t hold my breath although secretly hoping for a stellar LT SL!
The design time for a bike from concept to production is often well over a year, if not more.
Bman
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I LOVE Pivot bikes (currently running a Shuttle SL and Shuttle AM , and a Mach 4sl from them), but I just don't get their sizing. I fall right smack in between their Small and Medium on most of their bikes, and the gap between their S and M is always WAY bigger than between their other sizes. I can ride a M in every other bike I have from other makers and they fit like a glove. On Pivots, I always either have to choose do I want a longer WB than I want and run a 30mm stem, or do I want a shorter WB and run like a 50mm stem. First-world probs, I guess.
GravityCat
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Bike and motor manufacturer collaborate prior to motor launches to accomodate the bike development period and a timely launch. The SX and Ride 60 hit the market around the same time (early second quarter of 2023) and there are a handful of SX powered bikes announced then (Trek, Orbea, Focus, others). Pivot went with the Ride 60 and the Shuttle SL at that time. They could have dropped the SL AM with either motors back then. They basically come to the market with a product that Santa Cruz (Heckler SL) and others did 2 years ago. Pivot's bikes are refined but as mentioned, the timing on the the SL/AM and the LT drive units is just mmeh.
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Could you share where you purchased from? I am starting the hunt this week to try to get the best deal I can on a Pivot Shuttle LT. Feel free to message me direct if you don't want to share the dealer name here.
Here it is.
global.pivotcycles.com
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Is one headed your way? It sure is tempting.
Considering how much I like my existing AM with the dialed in fork, shock, brakes, dropper, etc., I'm going to try to show some restraint. It's going to be hard.
ramoes
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Man, pivot pricing just keeps getting more expensive. 9k USD for entry level.
and finally without shit Bosch charging port cover 
I think I talked to you on the phone yesterday. Are you that fast old guy that I can barely keep up with?
Ace Freely
Active member
... they are one of the nicest bikes out there... the fit and finish is 2nd to none, and the geo is spot on. I put Pivot and Santa Cruz in the same category. MAYBE Yeti...
Who you callin' a fat old guy??? I'll have you know that this is all muscle--hard-earned muscle.
So are you going to buy one of those aluminum swing arm, whale poop colored AM's, or are you going to hold out for one of the pretty ones?
EDventure_Outdoors
Member
Too late, Too heavy, Too bad. I betrayed my loyalty to Pivot and purchased an Amflow.
Except the quality of the ride is night and day different.
16,600, you meant to say 14,500. No other bike manufacturers add the $600 range extender and a Neo live valve shock and lists it on their website as a complete purchase, so your pricing is skewed a bit. Yes $14,500 is steep and it doesn’t even include a wireless dropper. Then again, it’s about the same as Specialized and Yeti pricing, which are all outrageous. Yes, the bottom build for that price is pure junk!
If they were priced the same, or even close, I'd take that Pivot WAY over an Amflow for gosh sakes personally. Like that's not even close really.
Quality, noise, efficiency, support, bash ring protection, dropper insertion, etc. The Pivot is superior in all of thewse ways and also weighs 47.5#s which ain't bad with an 800w. Really, that's not even a close competition.
Ace Freely
Active member
I would love an honest review between the 2... Pivot's quality, fit & finish, and ride are top of the line! Is your Amflow close to the Pivot?
Bogdan_CH
Active member
Really enjoy my Pivot Firebird but buying an ebike from Pivot is crazy right now due to its pricing, even though they are crazy good and thought to the last detail. Comparing it to the Amflow is a joke.
I'd I would've been Pivot I would've made the LT with the 800wh and the AM with the 600wh in a super light build. Think that would be appealing as well.
I'd I would've been Pivot I would've made the LT with the 800wh and the AM with the 600wh in a super light build. Think that would be appealing as well.
You are correct.
Another thing to consider is the S-Works levo is cheaper and is 111nm of power.
EDventure_Outdoors
Member
I think of cars when someone says "fit & finish". I won't argue that Pivot has that category won. However, it doesn't affect how great the overall experience is on the Amflow. All the points add up to make it a better bike - motor (quietness, power, smooth delivery), technology (app, screen, wireless programable controllers, shifting integration, hardwired derailleur...)
Part of me is shocked how a new manufacturer can release a Gen 1 model this great. I suspect the product team at Specialized is on PIP (Performance Improvement Plan).
Ace - You can message me direct and I'll be happy to answer your questions. I don't have time to debate Pivot vs Amflow with everyone. I'm busy riding my bike.
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