You don’t need to change to the swingarm sensor to run 27.5. People get the swingarm sensor so they can derestrict the bike. My first gen Voima had a rim magnet and I ran it full 27.5 without issue. My 2nd Voima race ID is also full 27.5, but with a swingarm magnet sensor.
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I think the decision to drop travel is just to appeal to the masses who have been brainwashed into thinking that long travel can’t pedal good. If I were to buy one, I’d get the DH version and build it up like my Voima, lighter weight but still long travel and still burly enough to handle everything. One of the things I like about Pole is, it’s outside the box and Leo thinks outside of the box. But this decision to reduce the travel and make the rear less travel than the front, put the bike back in the box. I like that it was different and I don’t want it to be like everything else. I feel like he is making the bike worse, just to sell more. And in the video, Leo says he is still running his personal bike with the full long travel.
I wonder if the the Enduro Sonni could pass as an SL as well? It's supposed 1Kg lighter than the Voima and now with 160/710 travel config, you could build it much lighter, especially if deploying with the smaller Bosch battery. For example, the Orbea Rise is using a full size motor but with a smaller battery and a bunch of lightweight components. It seems most SL EMTBs that are tested in MTB journals are the most expensive ones outfitted with the very lightest components - checkout actual Rise weight in the cheaper models, and certainly in the aluminum version, and one could start the question the SL moniker. I imagine if one were to weight-weenie an Enduro Sonni frame, it might dip into the SL domain, albeit without range extension capability.
I just can't get over the fact, that BB drop becomes as fatal as in most bulk emtb's. Onni would otherwise be so promising platform to conquer Trans Madeira, but as I can't have 29" at rear, the massive bb drop is just too much. But in general, with S-onni/Onni excellent pedaling behavior, I truly believe this trail versions fits better for bigger masses and may even "educate" those masses to advantages of Pole-front-line-geometry...
Why can't you have 29 on the rear?
Wrong bike in that test imo. Why the Vikkela wasn't there instead is something I'd like to know.
I agree. And this is kind of what I was getting at earlier. The bike was designed for long travel, so it should have been left as it was instead of reducing the travel to appeal to the masses. With the long travel version it wouldn’t have been as harsh as the lower travel version and the stiff frame likely wouldn’t have been complained about either with the more compliant longer travel version. Also pinkbike shouldn’t have reduced the air pressure in an effort to increase small bump compliance, they should’ve reduced low speed compression instead. All they did was increase how easily it bottomed out by reducing the air pressure.
Maybe the Vivid is over damped as MTB Telly found? Hope not as I've ordered my 200/200 Sonni with the Vivid Ultimate.
Presumably they got what Pole sent them.
Agreed. Maybe I should have said WTF were they thinking sending Pinkbike that
Absolutely. I struggle to follow the rationale of the Pole range.
Having had a Voima for a while, the biggest change between the two platforms is just being able to get a double crown fork on the sonni with room for adjustment. The 140mm headtube length on the voima really limits your options when using a 40 or Dorado, while I though it was a positive trait when using a Zeb.
