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I've tried an extraction and a bit of tidying up!
:Google Extracted Spanish:
En AMflow no eliges motor. Eliges cuánto control tienes sobre ese motor.
PX Carbon
→ sistema coherente
→ aprovecha el motor
→ compra lógica
PX
→ mismo motor, peor ejecución
→ compromiso económico.
Qué estás comprando?
Plataforma común (ambas): Motor Avinox M2S
→ 130 Nm nominal / 150 Nm
→ pico Batería 700 Wh extraíble
→ Cargador 508 W (12 A)
→ carga rápida real Geometría ajustable (±0.5-1° dirección + flip-chip)
Es una e-enduro de alta potencia, no comparable a Bosch/Shimano estándar. El cuello de botella no es el motor, es la parte ciclo.
Autonomía y uso real
Sin extender (700 Wh)
Uso agresivo: 1.5-2 h
Trail real: 2.5-3.5 h
Eco: hasta 5 h
Con extender (1300 Wh)
Trail largo: 4-6 h reales
Enduro: 3-4 h
Importante:
El extender añade autonomía, pero penaliza dinámica (peso alto y centrado).
Comportamiento dinámico.
PX Carbon
Más precisa en curva Mejor absorción a alta velocidad Menos fatiga en rutas largas Aprovecha el motor PX
Más torpe en cambios de apoyo Suspensión se satura antes Transmisión sufre más con par alto No exprime el sistema
Riesgos técnicos
1. Gestión térmica batería interna
700 Wh compacta → calor acumulado
En verano/extremo posible derating
2. Sistema dual (con extender)
Depende de cómo gestionen descarga:
secuencial → correcto
paralelo → excelente (no confirmado)
3. Batería extraíble posible microflex en downtube vigilar holguras/ruidos
Perfil de usuario elección Compra.
PX Carbon si:
quieres exprimir los 150 Nm
haces enduro / sendero técnico rápido
rutas largas con desnivel
valoras precisión y control
Recomendación técnica clara
Compra PX si:
presupuesto limitado
uso:
pistas
sendero suave
ritmo medio
aceptas:
peor dinámica
menos control con potencia alta
¿Compensa el extender? Sí, si:
haces rutas >3 h reales
desnivel alto
no te importa peso
No, si:
rutas <2.5 h
sendero técnico
buscas bici "viva"
Con extender comportamiento cambia mucho (más "moto").
:Google Translate: +(Edits)
With amflow, you don't choose the motor. You choose how much control you have over that motor.
PX Carbon (Pro)
→ Coherent system
→ Takes full advantage of the motor
→ Logical purchase
PX (Carbon)
→ Same motor, worse execution
→ Economic compromise.
What are you buying?
Common platform (both): Avinox M2S motor
→ 130 Nm nominal / 150 Nm peak, 700 Wh removable battery, 508 W (12 A) charger
→ Real fast charging, Adjustable geometry (±0.5-1° steering + flip-chip)
It's a high-powered e-enduro, not comparable to standard Bosch/Shimano. The bottleneck isn't the motor, it's the chassis.
Range and Real-World Usage
Without Extender (700 Wh)
Aggressive Use: 1.5-2 h
Real-World Trail: 2.5-3.5 h
Eco: Up to 5 h
With Extender (1300 Wh)
Long Trail: 4-6 h
Enduro: 3-4 h
Important:
The extender increases range but compromises handling (high weight and centered position).
Handling Performance
PX Carbon (Pro)
More precise cornering
Better high-speed absorption
Less fatigue on long rides
Takes full advantage of the motor
PX (Carbon)
More cumbersome during weight transfers
Suspension saturates sooner
Transmission suffers more under high torque
Doesn't fully utilize the system's capabilities
Technical Risks
1. Internal battery thermal management
700 Wh compact battery → accumulated heat
Possible derating in summer/extreme conditions
2. Dual system (with extender)
Depends on how they manage discharge:
sequential → good
parallel → excellent (not confirmed)
3. Removable battery
possible microflex in the downtube
monitor for play/noise
User profile
Purchase choice
PX Carbon (Pro) if:
you want to get the most out of the 150 Nm
you ride enduro/fast technical trails
long rides with elevation gain
you value precision and control
Clear technical recommendation
Buy PX (Carbon) if:
limited budget
use:
trails
soft singletrack
moderate pace
you accept:
less dynamics
less control at high power
Is the extender worth it? Yes, if:
you ride >3 hours
high elevation gain
weight isn't a concern
No, if:
ride <2.5 hours
technical trails
you're looking for a "lively" bike
With the extender, the handling changes significantly (more "motorized").
:End Translation:
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I've tried an extraction and a bit of tidying up!
:Google Extracted Spanish:
En AMflow no eliges motor. Eliges cuánto control tienes sobre ese motor.
PX Carbon
→ sistema coherente
→ aprovecha el motor
→ compra lógica
PX
→ mismo motor, peor ejecución
→ compromiso económico.
Qué estás comprando?
Plataforma común (ambas): Motor Avinox M2S
→ 130 Nm nominal / 150 Nm
→ pico Batería 700 Wh extraíble
→ Cargador 508 W (12 A)
→ carga rápida real Geometría ajustable (±0.5-1° dirección + flip-chip)
Es una e-enduro de alta potencia, no comparable a Bosch/Shimano estándar. El cuello de botella no es el motor, es la parte ciclo.
Autonomía y uso real
Sin extender (700 Wh)
Uso agresivo: 1.5-2 h
Trail real: 2.5-3.5 h
Eco: hasta 5 h
Con extender (1300 Wh)
Trail largo: 4-6 h reales
Enduro: 3-4 h
Importante:
El extender añade autonomía, pero penaliza dinámica (peso alto y centrado).
Comportamiento dinámico.
PX Carbon
Más precisa en curva Mejor absorción a alta velocidad Menos fatiga en rutas largas Aprovecha el motor PX
Más torpe en cambios de apoyo Suspensión se satura antes Transmisión sufre más con par alto No exprime el sistema
Riesgos técnicos
1. Gestión térmica batería interna
700 Wh compacta → calor acumulado
En verano/extremo posible derating
2. Sistema dual (con extender)
Depende de cómo gestionen descarga:
secuencial → correcto
paralelo → excelente (no confirmado)
3. Batería extraíble posible microflex en downtube vigilar holguras/ruidos
Perfil de usuario elección Compra.
PX Carbon si:
quieres exprimir los 150 Nm
haces enduro / sendero técnico rápido
rutas largas con desnivel
valoras precisión y control
Recomendación técnica clara
Compra PX si:
presupuesto limitado
uso:
pistas
sendero suave
ritmo medio
aceptas:
peor dinámica
menos control con potencia alta
¿Compensa el extender? Sí, si:
haces rutas >3 h reales
desnivel alto
no te importa peso
No, si:
rutas <2.5 h
sendero técnico
buscas bici "viva"
Con extender comportamiento cambia mucho (más "moto").
:Google Translate: +(Edits)
With amflow, you don't choose the motor. You choose how much control you have over that motor.
PX Carbon (Pro)
→ Coherent system
→ Takes full advantage of the motor
→ Logical purchase
PX (Carbon)
→ Same motor, worse execution
→ Economic compromise.
What are you buying?
Common platform (both): Avinox M2S motor
→ 130 Nm nominal / 150 Nm peak, 700 Wh removable battery, 508 W (12 A) charger
→ Real fast charging, Adjustable geometry (±0.5-1° steering + flip-chip)
It's a high-powered e-enduro, not comparable to standard Bosch/Shimano. The bottleneck isn't the motor, it's the chassis.
Range and Real-World Usage
Without Extender (700 Wh)
Aggressive Use: 1.5-2 h
Real-World Trail: 2.5-3.5 h
Eco: Up to 5 h
With Extender (1300 Wh)
Long Trail: 4-6 h
Enduro: 3-4 h
Important:
The extender increases range but compromises handling (high weight and centered position).
Handling Performance
PX Carbon (Pro)
More precise cornering
Better high-speed absorption
Less fatigue on long rides
Takes full advantage of the motor
PX (Carbon)
More cumbersome during weight transfers
Suspension saturates sooner
Transmission suffers more under high torque
Doesn't fully utilize the system's capabilities
Technical Risks
1. Internal battery thermal management
700 Wh compact battery → accumulated heat
Possible derating in summer/extreme conditions
2. Dual system (with extender)
Depends on how they manage discharge:
sequential → good
parallel → excellent (not confirmed)
3. Removable battery
possible microflex in the downtube
monitor for play/noise
User profile
Purchase choice
PX Carbon (Pro) if:
you want to get the most out of the 150 Nm
you ride enduro/fast technical trails
long rides with elevation gain
you value precision and control
Clear technical recommendation
Buy PX (Carbon) if:
limited budget
use:
trails
soft singletrack
moderate pace
you accept:
less dynamics
less control at high power
Is the extender worth it? Yes, if:
you ride >3 hours
high elevation gain
weight isn't a concern
No, if:
ride <2.5 hours
technical trails
you're looking for a "lively" bike
With the extender, the handling changes significantly (more "motorized").
:End Translation:
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On page 1 of this thread there were low-res pics of both PX and PR models. The white PX model looked like it had a very thin downtube, but I think that was just because of the sort of hazy line between the tube and the background, as the black PX model downtube looked nearly as thick as the PR models. Certainly not the 2x difference I see mentioned above. I saw some other genuine pics of them and it looked like the PR has a more square cross section downtube (vs. rounded on the PX), and a full length black protector on the underside (vs. a short protector down by the BB on the PX), so depending on how the light hits it, it may appear differently.
