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DylanJM said:
Who says there's a 932wh battery?
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Rumours.
So we wanted more wh/range extender and we got smaller battery for now... hope it is just temporary and bigger battery will be added.
 
Some full-res pics care of Jonny's LBS above.

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Oh WOW, that 38T chainring is huge, and sticks out way beyond the engine; bushguard will be useful.
Downtube on PR is as big as on my Cube Stereo Hybrid 800. Ability to remove battery doubles the downtube?
Standover is also much higher than on my Cube. They've run top tube very high.
 
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Eduardoramundo said:
Why was the side by side picture showing the downtube thicknesses removed?
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Yeah, I missed it before it was taken down.:( On page 1 of this thread there were low-res pics of both PX and PR models. The white PX model looked like it had a very thin downtube, but I think that was just because of the sort of hazy line between the tube and the background, as the black PX model downtube looked nearly as thick as the PR models. Certainly not the 2x difference I see mentioned above. I saw some other genuine pics of them and it looked like the PR has a more square cross section downtube (vs. rounded on the PX), and a full length black protector on the underside (vs. a short protector down by the BB on the PX), so depending on how the light hits it, it may appear differently.

Back on page 1, someone also said the PR is supposed to weigh 2kg more than the PX. A downtube cutout typically only adds about 0.5kg. Does anyone more familar with battery weights know roughly how much more an 800wh battery would weigh than the 700? Does an extra 100wh likely account for the full additional 1.5kg, or does that weight increase indicate there is still hope for the 900wh+ battery?

If there is no bigger battery, and no range extender, then that removable battery setup will have to be pretty awesome to compensate.

On the plus side, I do like the adjustable headset cups and chainstay flip chips. I'd also ideally like to see a flip chip at the swing link but , since they don't seem to have incorporated one, I guess offset shock bushings are always a DIY option to tweak the ride height a bit more.
 
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That chainring size is perfect for riding derestricted "NZ mode" or "class 3"! They know what the people want :D
 
Joakim said:
That chainring size is perfect for riding derestricted "NZ mode" or "class 3"! They know what the people want :D
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Looks like there is no spider and the chainring is now directly attached to the motor?
 
On a secondary note them going with a fixed 700wh battery on the top model makes me think a range extender is almost a certainty at this point.
 
The downtube of the PX in the photo looks even slimmer than the shop listing.
I might just go for the pro for the fox factory.
Can't believe it's been over 6 years since I purchased my Levo.
 
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TheKaiser said:
Yeah, I missed it before it was taken down.:( On page 1 of this thread there were low-res pics of both PX and PR models. The white PX model looked like it had a very thin downtube, but I think that was just because of the sort of hazy line between the tube and the background, as the black PX model downtube looked nearly as thick as the PR models. Certainly not the 2x difference I see mentioned above. I saw some other genuine pics of them and it looked like the PR has a more square cross section downtube (vs. rounded on the PX), and a full length black protector on the underside (vs. a short protector down by the BB on the PX), so depending on how the light hits it, it may appear differently.

Back on page 1, someone also said the PR is supposed to weigh 2kg more than the PX. A downtube cutout typically only adds about 0.5kg. Does anyone more familar with battery weights know roughly how much more an 800wh battery would weigh than the 700? Does an extra 100wh likely account for the full additional 1.5kg, or does that weight increase indicate there is still hope for the 900wh+ battery?

If there is no bigger battery, and no range extender, then that removable battery setup will have to be pretty awesome to compensate.

On the plus side, I do like the adjustable headset cups and chainstay flip chips. I'd also ideally like to see a flip chip at the swing link but , since they don't seem to have incorporated one, I guess offset shock bushings are always a DIY option to tweak the ride height a bit more.
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Based on leaks, I have no info:

600Wh = 2.9kg while the 800Wh battery weighs 3.7kg, assuming 700Wh gains no weight = 800g for battery
Motor: entry level M2 vs high level M2s = 300g
Battery latch mechanism, at least 500g

so there is the 1.6kg, looking at the size of the downtube it must be a few hundred grams more.

The lack of 900Wh batteries is a huge bummer now that we know they have the cells to do it, unless they really knock it out of the park with a 1kg 300Wh extender. My probability of getting an avinox powered bike next month has gone down from 90% to 40% :ROFLMAO:
 
Joakim said:
That chainring size is perfect for riding derestricted "NZ mode" or "class 3"! They know what the people want :D
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Rando_12345 said:
Based on leaks, I have no info:

600Wh = 2.9kg while the 800Wh battery weighs 3.7kg, assuming 700Wh gains no weight = 800g for battery
Motor: entry level M2 vs high level M2s = 300g
Battery latch mechanism, at least 500g

so there is the 1.6kg, looking at the size of the downtube it must be a few hundred grams more.

The lack of 900Wh batteries is a huge bummer now that we know they have the cells to do it, unless they really knock it out of the park with a 1kg 300Wh extender. My probability of getting an avinox powered bike next month has gone down from 90% to 40% :ROFLMAO:
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Yep. The whole point of removeable battery for me personally was being able to charge in the apartment.
Not to have smaller 700wh and another one in the backpack for replacement when i do longer trail/cross country rides. It is just my personal needs, i can see other people having different needs.
 
Downtube looks skinnier than the old amfloow model for the pictured bike on the right, i guess they've gone with 800w length but even thinner, visually could pass as an SL.

Still no small though?
 
Just catching up here, so is this a super slim 700w battery? Or is just the angle? Downtube looks a lot smaller than other DJI models.
 
B Rabbit said:
Just catching up here, so is this a super slim 700w battery? Or is just the angle? Downtube looks a lot smaller than other DJI models.
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The photo in post #77, with the 2 white bikes leaning against the wall, is the new PX (integrated battery) and PR (removable battery). Without measuring it is tough to tell, but it seems like, when compared to the 1st gen Amflow bikes, the PX may have a slightly smaller downtube, and the PR looks like it has a considerably bigger downtube. The PX seems to be 700wh, and the PR I think is 800wh, but I don't think that the PR battery capacity is 100% confirmed yet.
 
Petrex said:
Meanwhile
Over on FB ...
Ref. PX models
Spanish contributor is saying there will be a 600Wh Extender !
(Note: He is calling them PX and PX Carbon = PX Carbon and PX Carbon Pro)

Facebook

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Wow, thanks for bringing our attention to that! There was someone here on EMTB Forums within the past few weeks who claimed an Avinox Range Extender would be released soon, but he offered no more details, and I have seen no other mentions of it until now, so I didn't want to get my hopes up. This further mention, complete with a Wh spec, is very encouraging.

It is very odd that he is only referring to a PX or PX Carbon, with no mention of the PR, and he says the PX is the one with the removable battery. At this point, there so much AI generated slop, it is tough to tell what to believe, but we've seen seemingly reliable pics indicating there are definitely separate models without a removable battery.

On the AI generated topic, not sure how the posts on that Facebook page read in Spanish (any native or fluent speakers please chime in) but the English translations are close to unusable. Not sure if that indicates the source material is low quality, or if the Facebook auto translate functions are just leagues behind where they should be. For example:
"On AMflow you don't choose engine
You choose how much control you have over that engine.
PX Carbon
→ coherent system
→ take advantage of the engine
→ shopping logic
PX
→ same engine, worse execution
→ economic commitment."
Well that was informative! :unsure:
 
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