Hows everyone getting on with their New AMflow
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The maximum load capacity is 125 kg, which includes the rider's weight, any additional items being carried, and the weight of equipment mounted onto the frame.
Nah I'm still 15kg off the Max
The maximum load capacity is 125 kg, which includes the rider's weight, any additional items being carried, and the weight of equipment mounted onto the frame.
Got this from support, emailed direct
Thank you for your message. Regarding your query, the maximum limit of 125kg includes the rider's weight and load, as well as the weight of the equipment mounted on the frame. It does not include the weight of the bike.
The reply could be read either way. However, if that does mean that the 125kg maximum weight limit excludes the ~22kg weight of the bike then that would mean that the weight limit for bike plus rider is at least 147kg.
Good to know that self proclaimed ultra light Amflow carbon frames have significantly higher weight limits than other eMTB manufacturers.
Not all. For example :The reply could be read either way. However, if that does mean that the 125kg maximum weight limit excludes the ~22kg weight of the bike then that would mean that the weight limit for bike plus rider is at least 147kg.
Good to know that self proclaimed ultra light Amflow carbon frames have significantly higher weight limits than other eMTB manufacturers.
The 120/125 figure is generally an arbitrary figure created to help with warranty claims. Invariably it's also a limit imposed by the wheels/hubs as they're the most likely fail points, followed by the suspension components. Any frame can fail in the right circumstances, but they're generally all pretty strong these days and it would be surprising for anyone to come along and make something which is going to be poorly engineered.
If @iXi is doing 5ft drops regularly and rides like a potato, then yes, he's either going to brake a component/frame or his testicles at some point in the future.
Anyway, that all sounds a bit serious and boring ..
With the endless question of which came first, the chicken or the egg, were EMTB's developed for old fat men or did men evolve with the introduction of the EMTB into old fat men ??
Could higher body fat be part of a natural evolutionary process - you could call it athleticism I suppose as the body is adjusting for ultimate performance under a particular situation ?
Like a skyscraper .. it's big, it's heavy .. what do you do to improve performance and longevity of the structure when under environmental extremes ? Add weight.. Stick an extra 1000 tonnes of metal at the top in the form of a Tuned mass damper.
The "Highly Tuned" riders body can flow and undulate to even out the trail, working in tandem with the suspension for a smoother ride and more consistent loading on the bike and components.
Serious EMTBers spend a lot of time in EMTB gyms where you can buy all sorts of dietary supplements like peanuts, pork scratchings, Guinness, IPA. Many more dedicated EMTBers will even stop at an EMTB gym part way through a ride, some will even squeeze in a quick gym session at the end of the ride.
Remember, don't be dismayed if you don't have an EMTB gym near you, home workouts have been proven to be as equally beneficial .
EDIT : Please note that I'm not implying that @iXi is old or fat .. for all I know he's 19 and has 6% body fat.
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Unfortunately I am old and fat, but the Max drop I do is about 2ft.
The weight thing was in regards to my bike creaking and cracking occasionally. The bike shop reckons its the frame flexing and the suspension Pivot points creaking as a result.
With that said I have busted a rear triangle from one of my narly 2 foot drops and it was aluminium.
Thanks for reminding me that I didn't say all other eMTB manufacturers.
tehviking
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singletrackminded
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It will be interesting to see FC's full ride report. So far, the demo testers speak of the frame being flexly. I would personally ride it in the mullet configuration, which may help minimize the rear swingarm/ linkage flex with the smaller, stiffer rear wheel. The stock stem has been mentioned as an issue with flex also, but can be easily upgraded. Its listed at $ 7500 US which is a nice value. I wonder about the proposed US Dealer network and support, as well; as warantee. Very interesting bike.
Hmmm, carbon frames, hmmm ...
Bikedriver19
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I think the carbon bar, this bike comes with is "flexy" .. not the bike itself, I replaced the bar with a Rental Fat Bar, and replaced the stem, and it feels rock solid, I have the 29 on the back. However I am 165 lbs. I don't feel any flex at all in the back end.
Bikedriver19
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Curious, what mode did you run in? ANd how do you have the mode tuned?
With tuning at max on all modes, I am finding I can get about, 16 miles (turbo, all the time), about 24 miles on trail, all the time.
I have not tried auto or eco for an entire ride, but for the time I have tried auto....seems that gets the longest battery range.
31 miles, with 20% left, is pretty good!
I had 52% left. 108kg
I'm still getting plenty of flex through the frame but none through the bars that I can tell. If I bunny hop and the back wheel lands at an angle I get a loud crack, if I land straight no sound. Driving through the pedals hard can also get a crack from the frame. I'm still planning on changing the stem as it looks pretty flimsy. I'm going to mullet it too.
I had just updated to the latest firmware, eco was set to 30nm , Auto to maximum of 70nm, Trail to 85.
I spent the first 16 miles in auto, then eco for the remainder.
Two rideouts with the PL Pro over the past couple of weekends. I know I'm coming from an aging Jam2 but jesus wept these Amflows are great bikes. Front end floating over bumps, amazing toque up the steepest of climbs and light enough to forgive you when you fudge the take-off or landing. Just epic, what a bike. 
I flogged mine the other day,
48.5k (30m) ride, 1400m (4500ft) elevation and had 9% battery left.
I used 20% battery on one 3.5k section of a climb chasing a pointless kom just to see if it could haul my fat arse up the hill. I was smashing the 30s over boost at every chance. I beat my personal best by a solid 3.5mins. Means nothing but interesting to see how much more powerful this is compared to my levo.
Mine still pops/cracks occasionally when I put a bit of force through the pedals or twisting the frame, nothing to worry about.
Then I crashed it the next day at about 20-30km/h. Bike unscathed from what I can tell. Me not so much, lots of scrapes. Would post the top half but no one needs to see that just in case they were having dinner while browsing this thread.
Looks like Amflow is a pretty good climber
To bad it’s illegal in California.
Im sure trump will let you ride them in California as long as you go assault a law officer in the name of freedom…
500 Miles in now, Epic bike zero issues, the gears are so smooth eats up the fast trails. On 16 Mile Course its 15 mins fatser than what i was on my S Works levo. Only downside is a slight bit of flex on the back end on the real twisty bits, and if you set the Motor the 15.5 mph assist cut off point when it hits it you can really feel it, the S Works levo was very smooth with you go through this point. But great bike and very happy so far.
Only if China pays him off.
Bikedriver19
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Bikedriver19
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Yep, it climbs like crazy...best part about it, I think. (Some other good parts too)
Ridgydidge
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3 rides in on the silver pl and I’m very happy. It’s a perfect trail bike for typical blues with moderate jumps.
Pros in no particular order:
. 21kg for XL does not feel porky at all - it rides pretty much like a regular mtb - reminds me of my old Spec x wing enduro in the air and with its sleddy (read under steering) handling
. It’s ‘relatively’ well priced with ‘good’ components - the fox ‘performance’ front and rear shock are excellent and all you could want for - the fork in particular is super floaty on the chatter and solid in the hits - the Magura 5’s are powerful but do look to have close brake disc/pad tolerances so discs might be a consumable if they warp/get bent
. The dji system is fab - lovely to ride, quiet uphill and down, flexible in the app, eats your mates’ for lunch on the uphill if you want, or will wander gently along at anologue pace if you are out with your hold out mates - the ‘auto’ setting gives all this and more - brilliant
. Has excellent range and super fast charging.
. It speaks kiwi!
Some cons in my experience thus far:
. The stem is a bit wimpy, but easy to change out from the box of bits in the garage
. The alloy bar is an rsj with no compliance at all - I’ve ordered a One Up carbon bar to replace it
. The head tube design is a bit of a head scratcher - I’ll be putting in an angleset - looking for 66 degrees as a means to eliminate the understeer - but this will require some time on the lathe to fabricate a work around given the ‘funky’ head tube design
. On todays ride I got the creak - only happens pedalling out of chundery corners so I figure it’s the motor/mounts in combination with some torsionally flexed carbon around that area - I will be dropping the motor to grease all these points… hoping to eliminate that, as others have.
So far, so good. All up, it’s 8/10 from me. Good work dji!
Pros in no particular order:
. 21kg for XL does not feel porky at all - it rides pretty much like a regular mtb - reminds me of my old Spec x wing enduro in the air and with its sleddy (read under steering) handling
. It’s ‘relatively’ well priced with ‘good’ components - the fox ‘performance’ front and rear shock are excellent and all you could want for - the fork in particular is super floaty on the chatter and solid in the hits - the Magura 5’s are powerful but do look to have close brake disc/pad tolerances so discs might be a consumable if they warp/get bent
. The dji system is fab - lovely to ride, quiet uphill and down, flexible in the app, eats your mates’ for lunch on the uphill if you want, or will wander gently along at anologue pace if you are out with your hold out mates - the ‘auto’ setting gives all this and more - brilliant
. Has excellent range and super fast charging.
. It speaks kiwi!
Some cons in my experience thus far:
. The stem is a bit wimpy, but easy to change out from the box of bits in the garage
. The alloy bar is an rsj with no compliance at all - I’ve ordered a One Up carbon bar to replace it
. The head tube design is a bit of a head scratcher - I’ll be putting in an angleset - looking for 66 degrees as a means to eliminate the understeer - but this will require some time on the lathe to fabricate a work around given the ‘funky’ head tube design
. On todays ride I got the creak - only happens pedalling out of chundery corners so I figure it’s the motor/mounts in combination with some torsionally flexed carbon around that area - I will be dropping the motor to grease all these points… hoping to eliminate that, as others have.
So far, so good. All up, it’s 8/10 from me. Good work dji!
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Good review, can you post back once you've dropped the motor and greased the bits, as mine suffers the same and don't know if I could be bothered doing all that if it's for nothing.3 rides in on the silver pl and I’m very happy. It’s a perfect trail bike for typical blues with moderate jumps.
Pros in no particular order:
. 21kg for XL does not feel porky at all - it rides pretty much like a regular mtb - reminds me of my old Spec x wing enduro in the air and with its sleddy (read under steering) handling
. It’s ‘relatively’ well priced with ‘good’ components - the fox ‘performance’ front and rear shock are excellent and all you could want for - the fork in particular is super floaty on the chatter and solid in the hits - the Magura 5’s are powerful but do look to have close brake disc/pad tolerances so discs might be a consumable if they warp/get bent
. The dji system is fab - lovely to ride, flexible in the app, eats your mates’ for lunch on the uphill if you want, or will wander gently along at anologue pace if you are out with your hold out mates - the ‘auto’ setting gives all this and more - brilliant
. Has excellent range and super fast charging.
. It speaks kiwi!
Some cons in my experience thus far:
. The stem is a bit wimpy, but easy to change out from the box of bits in the garage
. The alloy bar is an rsj with no compliance at all - I’ve ordered a One Up carbon bar to replace it
. The head tube design is a bit of a head scratcher - I’ll be putting in an angleset - looking for 66 degrees as a means to eliminate the understeer - but this will require some time on the lathe to fabricate a work around given the ‘funky’ head tube design
. On todays ride I got the creak - only happens pedalling out of chundery corners so I figure it’s the motor/mounts in combination with some torsionally flexed carbon around that area - I will be dropping the motor to grease all these points… hoping to eliminate that, as others have.
So far, so good. All up, it’s 8/10 from me. Good work dji!
I’m unsure how to fit an angle set, I can’t see enough space for the bearing unless you went to a straight steerer?3 rides in on the silver pl and I’m very happy. It’s a perfect trail bike for typical blues with moderate jumps.
Pros in no particular order:
. 21kg for XL does not feel porky at all - it rides pretty much like a regular mtb - reminds me of my old Spec x wing enduro in the air and with its sleddy (read under steering) handling
. It’s ‘relatively’ well priced with ‘good’ components - the fox ‘performance’ front and rear shock are excellent and all you could want for - the fork in particular is super floaty on the chatter and solid in the hits - the Magura 5’s are powerful but do look to have close brake disc/pad tolerances so discs might be a consumable if they warp/get bent
. The dji system is fab - lovely to ride, quiet uphill and down, flexible in the app, eats your mates’ for lunch on the uphill if you want, or will wander gently along at anologue pace if you are out with your hold out mates - the ‘auto’ setting gives all this and more - brilliant
. Has excellent range and super fast charging.
. It speaks kiwi!
Some cons in my experience thus far:
. The stem is a bit wimpy, but easy to change out from the box of bits in the garage
. The alloy bar is an rsj with no compliance at all - I’ve ordered a One Up carbon bar to replace it
. The head tube design is a bit of a head scratcher - I’ll be putting in an angleset - looking for 66 degrees as a means to eliminate the understeer - but this will require some time on the lathe to fabricate a work around given the ‘funky’ head tube design
. On todays ride I got the creak - only happens pedalling out of chundery corners so I figure it’s the motor/mounts in combination with some torsionally flexed carbon around that area - I will be dropping the motor to grease all these points… hoping to eliminate that, as others have.
So far, so good. All up, it’s 8/10 from me. Good work dji!
The stem and bar were both swapped for a one up cockpit and I didn’t like the linear pull on the MT5 so swapped the levers for XT .
