Avinox launch 1500w M2S motor and cheaper M2 motor

[Rob Rides EMTB]

Lots of marketing BS that needs to be put on side.

There is a power / torque limit for the older batteries with M2s that only one reviewer mentioned.

700wh gets full power. Not sure if the 800wh removeable one also gets peak 1500w or 1300w.

Nobody mentioned it specifically.

you sure?

 

[Highland Wheels]

Thx. Which batteries get full power?

Here you go


"Avinox M2 (performance is independent of battery configuration)
Regular Modes: 1100 W, 110 Nm
Boost Mode: 1100 W / 125 Nm
Avinox M2S + 800 Wh fixed battery (FS800) or 600 Wh (FS600)
Regular modes: 1,300 W / 130 Nm
Boost mode: 1,300 W / 150 Nm
Avinox M2S + 800 Wh removable battery (RS800)
Regular modes: 1,300 W / 130 Nm
Boost mode: 1,500 W / 150 Nm
Avinox M2S + 700 Wh
Regular Modes: 1500 W, 130 Nm
Boost Mode: 1500 W / 150 Nm
On top of that, all Avinox M2 and M2S motor systems offer a support factor of up to 800%. "

 

[Maxi]

Wondering if the app based navigation will also be on the original Amflow?

Well, I have just updated the Amflow ride app and guess what, now has navigation option ! Just added a GPX to test and looks good - haven't actually tried it yet but the option is now there.

 

[James_MTB]

Apart from the Atherton 2900m elevation, has anyone seen real-world figures on how much climbing you can get from the 700 and 800 batteries using the new motors?

 

[ozzybmx]

Holy sheet... they should have dribbled this release to us, we have Amflow, Atherton, Pivot... and all the rest, all at once, released at the same time.

I am spinning on YT, dont know what to watch... most have the same info but what a release of bikes. Its like Christmas day for eebers

EDIT: Except other motor makers, for them its doomsday.

 

[Roughshod]

Holy sheet... they should have dribbled this release to us, we have Amflow, Atherton, Pivot... and all the rest, all at once, released at the same time.

I am spinning on YT, dont know what to watch... most have the same info but what a release of bikes. Its like Christmas day for eebers

Apparently there are 60 OEM partners so that suggests there's even more bikes to come as well...

 

[Highland Wheels]

Apparently there are 60 OEM partners so that suggests there's even more bikes to come as well...

Wait til Sea Otter, be another flood of new Avinox bikes

 

[sethimus]

Well, I have just updated the Amflow ride app and guess what, now has navigation option ! Just added a GPX to test and looks good - haven't actually tried it yet but the option is now there.

i'd love to see a screenshot of that. especially if its turn by turn or a full on map?

 

[Wojtek]

Here you go


"Avinox M2 (performance is independent of battery configuration)
Regular Modes: 1100 W, 110 Nm
Boost Mode: 1100 W / 125 Nm
Avinox M2S + 800 Wh fixed battery (FS800) or 600 Wh (FS600)
Regular modes: 1,300 W / 130 Nm
Boost mode: 1,300 W / 150 Nm
Avinox M2S + 800 Wh removable battery (RS800)
Regular modes: 1,300 W / 130 Nm
Boost mode: 1,500 W / 150 Nm
Avinox M2S + 700 Wh
Regular Modes: 1500 W, 130 Nm
Boost Mode: 1500 W / 150 Nm
On top of that, all Avinox M2 and M2S motor systems offer a support factor of up to 800%. "

Thank you, Sir!

So the removeable 800wh seems to be using the new batteries that dont limit the power.

 

[Highland Wheels]

i'd love to see a screenshot of that. especially if its turn by turn or a full on map?

I posted a screenshot in the other thread

Dunno if my M1 needs an update to work or maybe it doesn't work on the M1/Older screen.

 

[Astro66]

I posted a screenshot in the other thread View attachment 181362


Dunno if my M1 needs an update to work or maybe it doesn't work on the M1/Older screen.

Doesn't work on the M1.

 

[James_MTB]

Apparently there are 60 OEM partners so that suggests there's even more bikes to come as well...

I heard 80, and they want to sell half a million motors a year!

I bet Bosch is on the phone with the EU right now, and Hans Pen is going twenty to the dozen.

 

[Highland Wheels]

Doesn't work on the M1.

You tried it?


Tbf it isn't something I'd ever bother using anyway

 

[ozzybmx]

Dunno if my M1 needs an update to work or maybe it doesn't work on the M1/Older screen.

Is that on a phone ?

From the Avinox website, the bike touchscreen looks turn by turn ?

 

[Wojtek]

I thought it was a joke someone made with AI!
so we do have the dual battery available - kind of RE!

1400wh is kind of too much and it looks ugly.
1000wh single internal could be the sweetspot but one can never be fully happy

 

[Astro66]

You tried it?

Yep. Updated both App and bike to latest update and it says "Current connected device doesn't support navigation", when I try to send the GPX file to the bike.

 

[Highland Wheels]

Yep. Updated both App and bike to latest update and it says "Current connected device doesn't support navigation", when I try to send the GPX file to the bike.

Ah well, maybe a screen upgrade required then for it to work on ours

 

[Fangs2k]

I heard 80, and they want to sell half a million motors a year!

I think that needs some context, there are some 40 million e-bikes sold every year.

It could be a significant chunk of the emtb market though, but there are according to google some 250-500 e-mountainbike brands out there.

If they got even one of the ‘big 3’ by volume bike brands though then they’d be doing very well, Trek, Giant or Specialized.

I imagine if they could snag the latter, world domination would ensue.

 

[Rando_12345]

@Rob Rides EMTB so is the base M2 pretty quiet? I definitely don't need the power or 100g of weight saving, but if is rattles a lot I would be put off.

The M1 amflow PL I tested didn't really rattle so I'm guessing the M2 at worst is as loud as a "good" M1.

 

[Rob Rides EMTB]

@Rob Rides EMTB so is the base M2 pretty quiet? I definitely don't need the power or 100g of weight saving, but if is rattles a lot I would be put off.

The M1 amflow PL I tested didn't really rattle so I'm guessing the M2 at worst is as loud as a "good" M1.

Definitely quieter. Actually I weighed the m2 lighter than the M2s!

 

[Eduardoramundo]

@Moderator Can you merge this thread with the Avinox M2 thread? pretty please?

 

[Rob Rides EMTB]

@Moderator Can you merge this thread with the Avinox M2 thread? pretty please?

We should close that thread and use this one

 

[gaborx07]

Tbh it's a bit disappointing that the new non-removable battery is smaller than the previous 800Wh one and that the power output is limited on the older fixed batteries... I've seen some rumors about a new 900Wh+ battery coming out, is there any new information about that?

 

[Astro66]

Tbh it's a bit disappointing that the new non-removable battery is smaller than the previous 800Wh one and that the power output is limited on the older fixed batteries... I've seen some rumors about a new 900Wh+ battery coming out, is there any new information about that?

You can still get the old 800wh battery with the M2S. You just need to choose a bike manufacturer that offers it. My Teewing is coming with that. But you do loose the 1500 watts peak, and only get 1300 watts.

 

[Wojtek]

You can still get the old 800wh battery with the M2S. You just need to choose a bike manufacturer that offers it. My Teewing is coming with that. But you do loose the 1500 watts peak, and only get 1300 watts.

Only 1300w

 

[Astro66]

Only 1300w

I'm certainly not loosing any sleep over it ......

 

[gaborx07]

You can still get the old 800wh battery with the M2S. You just need to choose a bike manufacturer that offers it. My Teewing is coming with that. But you do loose the 1500 watts peak, and only get 1300 watts.

Frankly, I'd be much less interested in that +200 watts enabled by the new battery than in having a more future-proof battery tech with the new cells, which could potentially also unlock faster charging in the future., less degradation, etc. 1300W is already overkill, I'd much rather have a 900Wh+ battery in the format of the older 800Wh one which the rumors were about...

 

[Astro66]

Frankly, I'd be much less interested in that +200 watts enabled by the new battery than in having a more future-proof battery tech with the new cells, which could potentially also unlock faster charging in the future., less degradation, etc. 1300W is already overkill, I'd much rather have a 900Wh+ battery in the format of the older 800Wh one which the rumors were about...

Each to their own. I prefer the 800wh battery, because I have the same in my Amflow. Leaving the possibility to get the 600wh as a lightweight spare. And faster charging and discharging will degrade a battery far quicker than anything else.

 

[Radoslav88]

my lucky day was today. 1 month ago i ordered my first full suspension emtb - a basic avinox m1 ebike from a local czech manufacturer crussis .just got a confirmation from my bike shop that it will be delivered with an m2S motor instead of the m1 next month. so happy. if you are waiting for your avinox m1 ebike to arrive please check with your bike shop what motor u will get . u might get a nice suprise.

 

[Pyr0]

Looks like the PX Carbon Pro has some additional benefits such as an additional year warranty on the drive system.

https://service.amflowbikes.com/index

Amflow PX Carbon Pro Exclusive Value-Added Benefits

Extended Warranty for Core Components

The warranty for key carbon fiber components and the drive system is extended by 1 year. After the extension: carbon fiber frame: 6 years; carbon fiber handlebar and wheelset: 3 years; drive system: 3 years [1]

Battery Replacement

During the 3-year battery warranty period, you are entitled to one replacement at 50% of the standard replacement price. If the bike has reached 3,000 km at the time of service, the replacement is free [2]

Free Maintenance Kit

Get 2 free maintenance kit sets within 6 years [3]

Crash Replacement

During the warranty period, enjoy one 50% off replacement purchase for each of the following: carbon fiber frame, wheelset, drive unit, and control display

IoT Nano SIM Card Data Benefits

An IoT Nano SIM card is included with the bike, with 5 years of complimentary data service [4]

Free Accessories

Free FOX Mud Guard, Schwalbe Clik Valve Conversion Set and Amflow Dropper Remote Lever Mounting Bracket included with the bike

Notes: 1. Warranty periods, return/exchange policies, and warranty services may vary by country or region due to product differences. 2. The battery replacement benefit covers the battery unit and shipping only; labor costs are not included. 3. The maintenance kit benefit covers the kit and shipping only; labor costs are not included. 4. The IoT Nano SIM card includes 3 GB of data per year by default, which is sufficient for normal annual use of the bike's connected features.

[edit] The new xma and xmc wheels have HG and XD freehubs available