Nomadic Dad
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I see the thread title has changed but there's no new information posted - when do we hear about the TQ 120nm Dual battery?
Other New Trek Fuel+ TQ 120nm Dual battery
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Please no, I rode the Mte and it's so goooood ... but way out of my budget.
The only thing to justify not selling a kidney for it was that I would love to have a little bit more power (80nm/500-600w) in the backhand for some situations.
I know the “new” Yeti LTe is being announced on that date but haven’t heard anything about the MTe. It wouldn’t really make sense for them to go full power on the MTe as it would kill sales of the LTe but the MTe is on sale everywhere right now.
I posted this elsewhere on these forums but the date I saw, on an abandoned computer screen was January 27, 2027 for the 120nm TQ motor.
The sales associate stepped away long enough for me to have a peak. That’s all the info that I saw. Which begs the question …How do you keep a secret?
More info will likely trickle out over the next several months and that will generate more interest. Typical marketing strategy imo.
The sales associate stepped away long enough for me to have a peak. That’s all the info that I saw. Which begs the question …How do you keep a secret?
More info will likely trickle out over the next several months and that will generate more interest. Typical marketing strategy imo.
OMG the Lte, Sixfinity suspension with a slender downtube and < 50#s in a proper build would be the dream bike.
It would really make them stand out as well in a never-ending sea of Avinox bikes.
sethimus
😠 Temu Gary 😠
no, that’s only your bosch bike. sorry mate.
sethimus
😠 Temu Gary 😠
way more than that but less then avinox
I'm really not engaged in the 'my motor system is better than yours' feuds, except when it comes to the constant drum beat around here of only Avinox matters. Frankly this forum has needed some levity for a couple of years.
Anyways, it sounds like the TQ might be the new hotness. Of course I'm eager to see the new CVT things, but that's probably a bridge too far for my bike interests.
Roaming50
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The new MGs are certainly interesting but this is one area where I would not rush in and be a first-gen adopter. That is one to wait for gen 3.
sethimus
😠 Temu Gary 😠
not in the power department. sl bikes are dead when it launches though. many many months later than what is expected in this thread.
Rocket science. Apparently
sethimus
😠 Temu Gary 😠
fatsos won't like it
Neither will the yankeedoodles.
bikengineer
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It is "Class 1" compliant though...
TheKaiser
Active member
I find it hard to imagine that it won't be 750w, or 700w at minimum. They're doubling the torque on their current HPR60, and so I can't imagine they won't at least double the power from the HPR60s current 350w. I also don't think they're going to exceed 750w, because of the various hints we've seen that both suggested it won't be a watt monster, and that this collaboration with Trek is "Big Bike" hitting back at the upstart disruptor from outside the industry (Avinox). As a result, they will try to hold the line, along with Bosch, at 750w, as part of the more established/responsible members of the industry taking a stand, rather than engaging in the arms race of the power wars, and they will instead try to compete by improving other aspects of the user experience.
I hope that one of the ways they try to do that is with better waterproofing and some degree of shop level serviceability, but that is just a hope at this point. The TQs have a similar form factor to the discontinued ZF motor project, and it sure would be cool if they integrated the easy oil change via a drain plug concept that ZF was promoting. In my book, that would really differentiate them from every other brand, and especially so in comparison to upstart brands that don't even have a footprint in the local markets where they're selling their products.
Guessing 'everyone' wants full power ebikes.
Shame, as the TQ50 was excellent. I honestly thought there would be a decent market for these mid power ebikes. Having spent 5 years on a Gen 3 Levo I wanted something different, less weight around the headset area and a motor that forced me to make an effort.
HammerAndCycle
New Member
My TQ hpr60 MTe is brilliant, its almost always my go to bike. The most important thing to me is how well a bike decends, zero interest in fancy screens or any other gimmicks and to a certain extent how powerfull it is. The hpr60 is probably as close as you can get to an ebike feeling like a normal bike, its super quite and even easy to pedal with the motor completely off, and very efficient. If a Tq 120nm motor can get a close to the weight and form factor of the hpr60 then id probably buy one.
TheMirrorVision
Member
As an American, these are often one and the same, but credit where credit is due, at least they are exercisingNeither will the yankeedoodles.
ragetty
Member
I think you could equally argue exactly the opposite, that fat full fat bikes would be dead - slimline batteries and motors = no need for bulky frames. stiff yes to manage the power, but bulky no.
The reality is that the two are simply converging due to common needs.
ragetty
Member
… this is the point - the UI/software needs at least the helpful additions, like more than 3 modes for 750W/120Nm (hell, I could use more than 3 for 300W/50Nm).
It also needs to appeal to a wider spectrum of buyers than the (highly likely small) minority who claim that they don‘t need anything more. Just like 750W, UI features don’t have to be used if so preferred.
sethimus
😠 Temu Gary 😠
those were some facts regarding the new bike…
Roaming50
Member
I'd support this, though I would not expect anything with this update.
I'll admit I'd love four modes. I like to tune my low, medium and high to be closer together so that I can adjust on ride but it would be nice to have a boost that was full everything for those occasional times you really want the help. Having my high maxed all the time means that I am less likely to use it for fear of draining the battery so having a boost would offset this. Currently I leave by high at around 150-175% assist depending on ride.
I'd also be happy with 3 modes if we could create easy to call up profiles. I could then define a profile for all my regular riding spots with tunes for those particular rides. For example backed off tune to support 40+ mile days vs a more boosted tune for 25 mile days.
Emailsucks98
Well-known member
My partner has the Bosch SX (Devinci Troy Lite) and one thing I do like is "Tour mode", which has a much more dynamic feel compared to TQ. Where I might shift up a mode on my TQ, on her bike in tour mode, you simply pedal harder, and as long as your cadence is high enough, the motor responds with more power. I think that's the only mode she uses.
I would love something similar on TQ, whether it's an additional mode, or just an adjustment within the existing 3 modes.
TheKaiser
Active member
Yeah, it seems like most other brands have introduced new modes that are more dynamic/non-linear in their power output, so you can sort of get some of efficiency benefits of Eco at lower pedal outputs while having the peak power availability of Turbo (or whatever term you want to use), without having to switch modes. Not sure if your partner's bike has all of the most current firmware updates but it should have an EMTB+ mode too, which I think is the newest/most fully realized version of this. Avinox bikes have a similar mode that I think they call "Auto", and it seems like these types of modes tend to become people's favorites, allowing one to sort of "set it and forget it", so it would be wise for TQ to introduce an option like that.
