Avinox Reveals its Motor Gearbox

[skizzian]

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What do you guys think about the axle placement on these motors? Seems like the gobao will have a lot more motor hanging down.

not great on the Gobao - I reckon I would be smacking it a fair bit on my local rides
the Avinox axle position looks good.

 

[Suns_PSD]

I feel like no one would have cancelled an M2S order, if only Gabao had released this product. We've never even heard of this company, and it feels like Avinox made it feel much more like the immediate and valid future by jumping in.

Anyways, it's coming now!

 

[Fangs2k]

Realistically, I doubt it’s a “dummy” motor and is actually a functioning prototype given Avinox’s demonstrated development speed and prowess, but stranger things have happened.

Rob said he rode it, he was just asked not to film it, said it was good on the limited car park ride he did.

 

[G-Sport]

An important thing to consider for folks who are shopping (or who stopped shopping based on this news) is that new technologies need time for the inevitable bugs to get worked out. As anyone who’s bought a first model year car can attest, there are plenty of issues that only show themselves after release. Your best experience on a bike for the next 2+ years is probably going to be on that current gen M2S, so go buy it tomorrow and enjoy it.

I think people need to be prepared for the possibility that the ecvt drives have a different feel to conventional derailleurs. The connection between the pedals and the wheel is likely to feel a little spongy. If you just want to power up fire-roads then mostly freewheel downhills then this is unlikely to matter much; and I also think it will feel quite nice to have a bit of cushion once you get used to it, sprag hubs have a little of this and it actually feels good to me. But there will be some people who really won't like it. So I can easily imagine a scenario where someone waits for the MGU and then doesn't like it on a test ride and buys the conventional version instead, but what would really suck is if they waited and bought the MGU without a test ride and THEN found they didn't like it!

 

[slickrock]

yes, hence why auto mode has no existence in mtb applications.

Auto mode is coming for you DD, yeah they're coming for you:

Gyroscope and now AI vision using inverse reinforcement learning tech making auto mode all that more predictive. Could even learn your riding habits.

 

[TheKaiser]

Auto mode is coming for you DD, yeah they're coming for you:
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Gyroscope and now AI vision using inverse reinforcement learning tech making auto mode all that more predictive. Could even learn your riding habits.

Slightly off topic, but regarding auto shifting vs. manual I just saw this article:

Does Driving a Manual Transmission Keep Your Brain Healthy? Japanese Researchers Say Yes

Neuroscientists believe that rowing your own gears helps work out the brain's prefrontal cortex.

www.roadandtrack.com

 

[ArmyOfEvilRobots]

Slightly off topic, but I regarding auto shifting vs. manual I just saw this article:

Does Driving a Manual Transmission Keep Your Brain Healthy? Japanese Researchers Say Yes

Neuroscientists believe that rowing your own gears helps work out the brain's prefrontal cortex.

www.roadandtrack.com

Heh; whatever did people do to keep their brains working before the advent of the stick shift...

I suspect it was a slow news week for Road&Track.

 

[Powerslider]

Couple thoughts:

1) Do we know how close Avinox are to actual production?

An Avinox executive said clearly at Eurobike that their MG platform would be on sale "next year."

Further evidence of the MG being just over the horizon was Commencal's lead designer saying that moving forward, their high-end eMTBs would be Avinox MG only.

Lastly, Avinox said bike manufacturers already have MG bikes being tested in the field.

 

[Astro66]

I feel like no one would have cancelled an M2S order,

If you already had an M1 EMTB. You may have thought about not getting the M2S and waiting for the MGU. I certainly wouldn't have bought my M2S in April if I knew Avinox and Gobao were releasing E-CVT MGUs in 2027. I would just stuck with my M1 Amflow till the MGU came out.

For trail riding, the Amflow with M1 and SRAM ASX Electronic derailleur is fine. But in an Enduro. I want an MGU. I'll just be able to attack rocky chunk harder and faster, without fear of derailleur damage.

Right now I always ride with the exposure of my derailleur in mind. It's literally the only thing I consciously focus on to not do damage to. This does limit your ability to attack tight twisty technical runs at full tilt.

 

[Blownoutrides]

An Avinox executive said clearly at Eurobike that their MG platform would be on sale "next year."

Further evidence of the MG being just over the horizon was Commencal's lead designer saying that moving forward, their high-end eMTBs would be Avinox MG only.

Lastly, Avinox said bike manufacturers already have MG bikes being tested in the field.

Wow. What a time to be riding bikes!

 

[ShapeThings]

An Avinox executive said clearly at Eurobike that their MG platform would be on sale "next year."

Further evidence of the MG being just over the horizon was Commencal's lead designer saying that moving forward, their high-end eMTBs would be Avinox MG only.

Lastly, Avinox said bike manufacturers already have MG bikes being tested in the field.

Avinox can’t even keep up with M2 demand now, so while he may technically not be lying in stating the gearbox will be on sale in ‘27, my suspicion is that it will be in such limited batches that 2028 will be more realistic.

I’m still a little salty waiting 8+ months for my m1 bike.

 

[TheKaiser]

Avinox can’t even keep up with M2 demand now, so while he may technically not be lying in stating the gearbox will be on sale in ‘27, my suspicion is that it will be in such limited batches that 2028 will be more realistic.

I’m still a little salty waiting 8+ months for my m1 bike.

What M1 bike are you waiting on? Surely by now, they will have swapped the spec to an M2 or M2S, no? Or are they still making new M1 motors?

 

[ShapeThings]

What M1 bike are you waiting on? Surely by now, they will have swapped the spec to an M2 or M2S, no? Or are they still making new M1 motors?

Sorry, I wasn’t clear, I received my bike in November. (Technically in October, but the moronic government shutdown meant it sat in port for an extra month)

But I have little faith Avinox will be able to supply the MG at scale. The Amflow PX isn’t stateside yet, and the PR delivery dates are a mystery.