No. They were EU standard of 25kph. Why would they run them in Class 1?!Grok just told me Spain “strictly” adheres to the EU standard of a 25kph (15.5 mph) limit. It would be amusing to me if Orbea’s own demo Wilds during the event weren’t actually legal in Spain and were set to Class 1 (20 mph).
Feel free to call this a Wild guess.
The M8260 is wired to a motor and I couldn't get it to work without a supported motor
Barely any power draw on these. Think about how tiny the AXS batteries are that you'd normally use. 300mAh tiny batteries.
I can't help but compare this to the Atherton, which has shorter chain-stay lengths (albeit with size specific for different frame sizes), but has a longer wheelbase and a front centre of 882mm in Size 12. With those figures, you'd say their FC/RC ratio would be even more skewed, but first ride reports are stating it's a very good bike. It'll be interesting to see what you think of it when you get to ride one Rob. I've ordered an Atherton as it's A. British and i'm supporting local industry. B. Local-ish, so I can get any problems sorted - hopefully quickly and easily. C. Made of aluminium, which I prefer from an environmental aspect and D. It's as close a match to my XXL Megatower V1's geometry - which fits me at 1.98m very well and could only do with a steeper ST angle, which the Atherton has.
In an effort to avoid derailing this into another discussion of limits, I’ll just say I find it admirable Orbea kept them legal.
Surely, if you go the electric route for bike components, you would want a shared power source, not charging each wire-less gizmo you might have. You do realize that energy consumption of a small servo motor or a remote is negligible to affect the range . You make one crank rotation at full motor power and that's the energy you would spent from all those accessories on the whole ride.
Interesting choice of words, although I have a feeling that the unique direction the RS tune has chosen could be ahead of the curve. I'm not making any claims, just being open minded.
Sure. I'm just saying. I don't need to be forced into using lower power, when on longer rides. I know more power equals less range. So I'm quite capable of working that out myself, then selecting the appropriate power level.
I'm a software engineers so I'm very familiar with the options thus it would be good to know.
Although, I think in some of the lighter Rises with very small batteries, the battery needed protection against high current, and thus over heating, which would significantly reduce the battery life.
Exactly , I believe that is possibly not the demographic they are building their brand around.
do you even know how 750w/130nm feels like?
Hi Rob, Orbea claims to have achieved much greater sensitivity in the motor sensors with their RS system set to 750w. If a new mode with more power were created, would the system still maintain that extra sensitivity when managing the motor?
Will there be a data transfer in return so that Avinox might incorporate these kinds of sensitivity improvements in future updates?Yep
I think its highly likely that Avinox adds something like this in some way in the future.
Did some more research and yes, you are correct. The 11 speed is not wireless, so it won’t work with the Avinox motor. I’d have to go with the 12 speed. If going 12 speed, the AXS is likely where I’ll go, but I may try Shimano DI2 with a 9-45 cassette, which would allow me to run the shorter derailleur. I’ve run all AXS for the last 7 years, so not sure I want to make the switch, it figure why not give it a try.
Same here. I cannot afford to buy or chop and change bikes at will, so I buy for the long term. It'll be interesting to compare how both bikes feel, back to back, once the Atherton arrives.
You’ve recently demo’d the Pivot Amp’d and the new Wild. Did you adjust the Assist Start to its Max setting on the Pivot during your test rides? Can you say with certainty that the RS QuickStart tune on the Wild provides faster motor engagement than a standard Avinox motor set to maximal Assist Start? If so, that’s impressive!
