EMTB prices are plummeting.

B Rabbit said:
Probably specifically the Amflow PR effect, I think a lot of brands will do their best to dump stock and get ahead of their inventory levels before word starts spreading you can get a full carbon framed Avniox powered bike for $7k aud.
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Yeh I looked at the merida as well. My wife has the e 160 700,the older frame style with vertical mounted shock. Great bike but unfortunately she got xs as she's short and its only a 504wh battery and can't be increased size wise so she always has range anxiety. And it weighs 24 kg which for her is alot to heft. I've got a norco sight 2020 with a 70nm motor and while its enough if she and are are riding together I get smoked uphill when we ride with a group with 85nm motors. But I've had zero issues with my shimano motor,even immered it in a metre of water( not at all intentionally) and after a week in the sun I turned it back on and its been totally fine ever since. But 2g more for a much lighter more powerful and as well specced( other than maybe the brakes on the Amflow) its pretty hard to pass up.
 
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I sold my PL Carbon pro once the PX Pro came out and I placed an order, the market literally crashed overnight because of the PR and new motors coming out, a month before I sold mine the same bike was going for 2k more. When someone can buy new bikes with 800w batteries and the M2 (and sometimes the M2s) for 4500+. There would have to be a compelling reason to buy used with older tech for more money (even if the components are better on the used bike)
 
trekRailIRL said:
Where did you purchase?
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Like I said, no way you could lose money on this. I’m not in the need for a new bike but for less then 3000 bux I’m I it, so I have the opportunity to try out the Bosch SX and after that I’m going to sell it again.
 
scrufy said:
great looking too.
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Fugu said:
I bought something very similar, <2 weeks ago. No fucking way would I rather an Amflow... I walked right past a herd of new M2S on the shop floor. Cute little toys, but not for me.

Each to their own.
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Betting: There will be no parts or service centers for these Chinese motors in the near future and beyond....
 
Folklore said:
Betting: There will be no parts or service centers for these Chinese motors in the near future and beyond....
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How allow you to affirm that ? the bafang (an other china brand) are the alone motor who youn can easily find spare parts to maintain. why you said that amflow will not been provided spare parts ?
 
Fangs2k said:
Can’t find a Merida E160 675 for under £3999 here in the UK, so not sure it translates across continents.

I wonder if it’s the retailers who carry the can here, from overstocks, or distributor discounts on the table, ie sale or return?

E-bikes of all sorts have been overpriced for a long time now, Covid pumped the bubble and it’s taken a long time to deflate.

Whether it’s the ‘Avinox effect’ or not, prices coming down is a good thing, but maybe RRPs should be coming down and not just discounts going up.

To be fair, the number of people in the current cost of living crisis still having the cash to drop even a couple of £k on any e-bike must be in the minority.

I suppose it must be dependent on what bubble you’re in, but I’m not seeing many Avinox bikes on the routes I’m riding, it’s still mainly Levo’s, but there is a big dealer in the locality which might explain that.
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Agree on e MTB bikes being over priced. My god I could buy a brand new KTM 300 for the cost of some top tier bikes last couple years.
 
Plummet said:
Yep. Technology is a moving fast industry. Some shops are doing it hard with stock they can't sell. I was talking to a shop owner the other day and he said sl and mid power bikes just arent selling. He had something discounted from $20k down to $12k and its still gathering dust.

The down side is that out current bikes resale prices are also plummeting aswell. Non DJI bikes are like used undies. No body wants them.
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I have an DJI M1 and even this bike has skid marks from a resale perspective.
But i like the M1 to the point it is near perfect for me (and more that i will ever properly utilise having seen dudes who actually know how to ride hard & fast am a PL) and see no point in changing it for the new bikes as i don't really need what they offer.
So i need to hang on to my M1 to get value out of my outlay. I did buy it at the run-out discount price too, but with the new Amflow's offering more for the same RRP of the PL/M1 i am a bit miffed.
 
highly_Focused said:
I have an DJI M1 and even this bike has skid marks from a resale perspective.
But i like the M1 to the point it is near perfect for me (and more that i will ever properly utilise having seen dudes who actually know how to ride hard & fast am a PL) and see no point in changing it for the new bikes as i don't really need what they offer.
So i need to hang on to my M1 to get value out of my outlay. I did buy it at the run-out discount price too, but with the new Amflow's offering more for the same RRP of the PL/M1 i am a bit miffed.
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I feel the same about my bosch Crestline. Ill be milking that bike until its nuts and bolts on the ground.
 
I am in the exact position as your mate, in the market my first e-bike in Aus and now torn between something like this for $5000 or an $9000 teewing
 
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Suns_PSD said:
You just need to get ran over by a car again and you'll be well on your way to a bike update.
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Nah, I'm loving it. Went for a brain melter rider today. So much fun. I was giggling like a school girl. I dont need anymore power either, I have more than enough.

My problem is, if this thing gets damaged or stolen what do i replace it with.... Just dont want the 800wh heavy front end.
I love the 400wh and withstand the 600wh.

Anyway, that's a good problem to have.
 
Fugu said:
I bought something very similar, <2 weeks ago. No fucking way would I rather an Amflow... I walked right past a herd of new M2S on the shop floor. Cute little toys, but not for me.

Each to their own.
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I’m struggling to understand this comment, why are they cute little toys? Because they don’t have a bloated down tube and weigh over 25kgs?
 
That Shimano motor won't be helping things. I know someone who's on their THIRD warranty replacement. Which, to their credit, Canyon/Shimano have replaced without fuss each time. But yeah, damn.
 
Plummet said:
Nah, I'm loving it. Went for a brain melter rider today. So much fun. I was giggling like a school girl. I dont need anymore power either, I have more than enough.

My problem is, if this thing gets damaged or stolen what do i replace it with.... Just dont want the 800wh heavy front end.
I love the 400wh and withstand the 600wh.

Anyway, that's a good problem to have.
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I think you've got a nearly perfect bike for your needs.
 
I was about to sell my current bike and order an Avimox bike but waiting for bikes with the new motor to hit the shops. And then got tempted by the massive discounts on offer so now have two bikes - and enduro biased one and a general XC biased one plus spare wheels with gravel tyres. The downside is two bikes to clean and maintain, but the upside is they are each better at what they do than just one bike plus if one breaks I still have a bike to ride.
 
TimC7 said:
I was about to sell my current bike and order an Avimox bike but waiting for bikes with the new motor to hit the shops. And then got tempted by the massive discounts on offer so now have two bikes - and enduro biased one and a general XC biased one plus spare wheels with gravel tyres. The downside is two bikes to clean and maintain, but the upside is they are each better at what they do than just one bike plus if one breaks I still have a bike to ride.
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Don’t tease us, what bikes did you buy!
 
hvrider said:
Don’t tease us, what bikes did you buy!
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I have had a Rise for 4 yrs and just bought a Slash+ ; the Rise is unlocked and a medium so a lovely comfy ride over almost anything whilst the Slash+ is more fun on the DH bits. TBH if I made the Rise rear suspension 160mm I probably wouldnt need the Slash+ but its nice to be able to swap around.
 
Not in the UK they're not. There's things like the Raymon which are discounted by a lot, but they were 12 months ago as well, some of the old HP50 Treks are, but again, they have been for a while. The rest are 10% off, 20% off... but there's nothign really being smashed in terms of pricing. Even the used bikes haven't really changed in price, things like a 2021 bike that was £5000-6000 is still wanting £3000. Once you factor in that they don't have warranty, they're very poor value.
 
Wanting ain't the same as shifting. Plenty of 2022-3-4 bikes around for way less than 3k on PB.
 
hvrider said:
I am in the exact position as your mate, in the market my first e-bike in Aus and now torn between something like this for $5000 or an $9000 teewing
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Same conundrum I get with my mates looking to upgrade their MTB. But looking at the $5K Enduro Merida, or the $7K Trail Amflow.

I think it really comes down to how you'll most use the EMTB. Descending, get the Merida. Climbing, get the Amflow or Teewing.
 
I've gone from "SL bikes are stupid" to "why don't I own an SL bike?", and all it took was a >50% discount!

Seriously, I see Mondrakers (sly, neat, dune), Trek Fuel exe's and Norco sights going for less than 4k, sometimes down into the sub 3k range. Even if it just gets used as a lunch ride bike it is worth it... Garage space is the main limiter personally.
 
I see 40-50perc. discounts (EU-wide) for 3 main categories:

- Trek's HP50 bikes, every pre-2026 Slash and Fuel.
- Majority of Levo and Levo SLs.
- Older unloved experiments (Giants with Yamahas, etc..). These can go for up to 70perc. off. Almost worth it to buy for stuff on it alone.

But everywhere else and all recent is mostly market price or 10perc. off only. I've noticed that retailers no longer expect high discounts of post-covid years anymore this season.
 
Astro66 said:
Just saw this Merida E160 675 for AUD$4999. That's €3000. US$3500. £2600. And it's available in all sizes with plenty of stock. And it's a quality Enduro build, with 170/160 suspension travel. It's 43% off it's retail price.

I'm guessing this is the Avinox effect.

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Take a look at the spec. Great spec, with top of the range Shimano EP801 motor, with the brand new 712wh Shimano Battery. Amazing value.

Fork
Marzocchi Z1 eMTB; Air; 170 STR; Tapered; 44mm fork offset

Shock
Marzocchi Bomber Air

Wheel Size
29" / 27.5" (Mullet Bike)

Rims
Reynolds 309 Enduro Comp; 30 IWR; MAT aluminium; Tubeless ready (tubeless tape installed); front 29"; rear 27.5"

Hubs
F: Novatec SL-ELITE D041SB-B15; 110x15 WHF; 32 SPH; 6 bolt | R: Novatec SL-TEAM D462SB-S3S-B12-11S; 148x12 WHR; 32 SPH; 6 bolt

Tyres
F: Maxxis Assegai; 29x2.5 "; fold; TR EXO+ 3C MaxxGrip | R: Maxxis Minion DHR II; 27.5x2.4 "; fold; 3C DD TR MaxxTerra

Crankset
Sram XX Eagle Transmission E-MTB for Steps; 36 ATC; Shimano FC-EM600

Chain
Sram Eagle 70 Flattop Chain

Brakes
F: Sram DB6 stealth; 4 piston | R: Sram DB6 stealth; 4 piston

Front Rotor
Sram CenterLine; 220mm

Rear Rotor
Sram CenterLine; 200mm

Shifters
F: Sram Dropper Lever MMX | R: Sram Eagle 70 Transmission Shifter

Rear Derailleur
Sram Eagle 70 Transmission

Cassette
12 Speed
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This bike is not for sale in NSW yet. I tried to buy one and was told they have to go through certification in NSW before they can be sold. 99bikes were I went did not know when or how long it would take. They advised me to purchase from another state.
 
Junor said:
This bike is not for sale in NSW yet. I tried to buy one and was told they have to go through certification in NSW before they can be sold. 99bikes were I went did not know when or how long it would take. They advised me to purchase from another state.
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Had the same issue with my Teewing. If you really want it. Get it from Canberra. That's what I did.

Because it's a new NSW legislation. The bureaucracy is struggling to keep up and certify the new bikes.
 
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