Less than 20kg full power E for my short AF wife.

[Plummet]

Hey team,

Thinking about getting the missis an e. She is short af, 5'1 in a tall day. So need light weight. But would like full power and it needs to be size small 430 reach or less.

Currently she rides my daughters 60nm Orbea Rise size small gen 1 when we go on e bike rides. My daughter has the alloy version with 580hw battery and its about 20kg. She complains its too heavy and doesnt turn very well and she's not confident on it and prefers her mtb.

Her mtb is a fully worked 27.5 intense tracer. With carbon everything, enve wheels that weights around 12.5 kg.

So she has a pretty damn high bar on what acceptable.

We tried a mullet 2024 giant intrigue in size xs and she found that bike a lot better fit and turn in was better for her.

But that bike was 21kg and only had a 400wh battery. Its low spec parts, its already out of date motor wise, too heavy with a battery too small.

What else is out there in teny tiny mullet full power bikes. That meet 20kg 600wh battery spec.

Hit me with ideas.

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[irie]

Hey team,

Thinking about getting the missis an e. She is short af, 5'1 in a tall day. So need light weight. But would like full power and it needs to be size small 430 reach or less.

Currently she rides my daughters 60nm Orbea Rise size small gen 1 when we go on e bike rides. My daughter has the alloy version with 580hw battery and its about 20kg. She complains its too heavy and doesnt turn very well and she's not confident on it and prefers her mtb.

Her mtb is a fully worked 27.5 intense tracer. With carbon everything, enve wheels that weights around 12.5 kg.

So she has a pretty damn high bar on what acceptable.

We tried a mullet 2024 giant intrigue in size xs and she found that bike a lot better fit and turn in was better for her.

But that bike was 21kg and only had a 400wh battery. Its low spec parts, its already out of date motor wise, too heavy with a battery too small.
What else is out there in teny tiny mullet full power bikes. That meet 20kg 600wh battery spec.

Hit me with ideas.

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Think you'll have to buy a full power bike that has the step over she's happy with and a colour she likes then go on a weight weeny expedition. Probably most important is that when dropper is at lowest her feet are flat on the ground.

 

[ntm95]

Hey team,

Thinking about getting the missis an e. She is short af, 5'1 in a tall day. So need light weight. But would like full power and it needs to be size small 430 reach or less.

Currently she rides my daughters 60nm Orbea Rise size small gen 1 when we go on e bike rides. My daughter has the alloy version with 580hw battery and its about 20kg. She complains its too heavy and doesnt turn very well and she's not confident on it and prefers her mtb.

Her mtb is a fully worked 27.5 intense tracer. With carbon everything, enve wheels that weights around 12.5 kg.

So she has a pretty damn high bar on what acceptable.

We tried a mullet 2024 giant intrigue in size xs and she found that bike a lot better fit and turn in was better for her.

But that bike was 21kg and only had a 400wh battery. Its low spec parts, its already out of date motor wise, too heavy with a battery too small.

What else is out there in teny tiny mullet full power bikes. That meet 20kg 600wh battery spec.

Hit me with ideas.

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The wife loves her heckler sl in small, at 5'2", 110 pounds.
You can pick them up for cheap right now...

Battery life and climbing speed is comparable to me on a bosch 5 or avinox m2s with the 600wh, at tour/auto setting.

 

[Zimmerframe]

You tried the new bike finder option from the forums menu ?

 

[Plummet]

You tried the new bike finder option from the forums menu ?

Its useless.

 

[Suns_PSD]

Build her a 19 kg Yeti Mte. Most petite women stick to easier trails and don't weigh much, so full power seems like all negative.

However, a used previous gen Amflow with a 600wh battery would be another candidate.

 

[Roughshod]

The new Avinox Orbea is rumoured to be quite light. Obviously even more so in smaller frame size and the smaller 600w battery.

 

[drive2race4fun]

As she’s so light, she doesn’t need the heavy parts typically used in ebikes. So start with a lighter base (eg the mentioned gen 1 Amflow PL w/ 600wh battery) and then switch parts, depending on budget: carbon wheels, tubeless (no heavy tires required but don’t go ultra light w/ tires), Trickstuff picola, carbon cranks, a light carbon bar, carbon (base) saddle … you’ll be able to get to or below 19 kg with a very powerful motor

 

[simonali19]

I'd be looking at something with the new Maxon motor in it. I think every one I've read about is under 20kg

 

[Plummet]

She doesn't like full 29 of the ordea rise. So mullet it is. Not interested in the tq motor. Not powerful enough or reliable enough.

She's not as fit as me or as fast technically so more power than the rise would be good to bridge gap in speed and to clean steeper sections she currently stalls on. So I think as light as possible full power, would be better suited put needs.

 

[Plummet]

Ps all amflows are out, they dont offer mullet or size small.

 

[ccornacc]

Pivot Shuttle AMPd has an XS that would fit the bill.

Shuttle AMP'd

Built for riders who don’t dial it back, the AMP’d is a showcase of what the Avinox M2S can unleash when paired with a chassis forged through two decades of suspension design. With 150mm of rear travel paired to a 160mm fork and a gravity-inspired build, it hits hard and charges deep, while...

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[simonali19]

Ps all amflows are out, they dont offer size small.

FYP

 

[Plummet]

Pivot Shuttle AMPd has an XS that would fit the bill.

Shuttle AMP'd

Built for riders who don’t dial it back, the AMP’d is a showcase of what the Avinox M2S can unleash when paired with a chassis forged through two decades of suspension design. With 150mm of rear travel paired to a 160mm fork and a gravity-inspired build, it hits hard and charges deep, while...

www.pivotcycles.com

I wonder if a 600wh could be retrofitted in. That would make it ideal. Don't want an 800wh up front thats too much front weight bias and she'll complain about turning effort.

 

[simonali19]

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17kg in size M

 

[Plummet]

FYP

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17kg in size M

That's on point. I doubt i could import one into nz, then the question of back up support or lack there of in nz. So I think its too early for maxom motor in nz. That would be a hurt locker id something went wrong and an angry wife with a non working bike.

Im not prepared to withstand boutique unsupported bike wife rage.

 

[simonali19]

I have to admit that most of the bikes with that motor are rather 'boutique' and being in NZ probably makes most other makes the same

 

[russ_e]

Santa Cruz Vala

 

[ntm95]

She doesn't like full 29 of the ordea rise. So mullet it is. Not interested in the tq motor. Not powerful enough or reliable enough.

She's not as fit as me or as fast technically so more power than the rise would be good to bridge gap in speed and to clean steeper sections she currently stalls on. So I think as light as possible full power, would be better suited put needs.

100%, at 5'2" a 29'r was a non starter for my wife. She hated her old alpine trail 7 29" bike. Complained of "beaver buzz" often .
Also agree that the tq60 is significantly less power than even the fazua 60. Great for riding by oneself, or acoustics, but keeping up with even detuned full power would be tiring.
A wild or a dreadnought will be her next bike. Excellent dropper insertion on both of those.

 

[Plummet]

Santa Cruz Vala

Vala is top of the list at the mo. It ticks most boxes.

 

[Projectdavos]

FWIW My wife is 5.3 and has the intrigue x elite 1 in snall and she loves it. We ended up getting the range extender which adds to the weight/cost but i’d say it’s around the 20-21kg with 600wh. Evo were doing killer deals on these but i’m not sure if there is any smaller sizes still left in NZ.

 

[KleineAnfange]

Sounds like you need a big brand for service and support. As a result a lot of the lighter bikes (Raymon Tarok, Thomus, Megamo) won’t be a great fit. I think you can probably get close with a transition regulator cx. If you’re open to mullet probably a few more choices.

 

[Mankra]

Megamo Reasion Air, starts at 19,xx kg.

 

[Iaina]

Hey team,

Thinking about getting the missis an e. She is short af, 5'1 in a tall day. So need light weight. But would like full power and it needs to be size small 430 reach or less.

Currently she rides my daughters 60nm Orbea Rise size small gen 1 when we go on e bike rides. My daughter has the alloy version with 580hw battery and its about 20kg. She complains its too heavy and doesnt turn very well and she's not confident on it and prefers her mtb.

Her mtb is a fully worked 27.5 intense tracer. With carbon everything, enve wheels that weights around 12.5 kg.

So she has a pretty damn high bar on what acceptable.

We tried a mullet 2024 giant intrigue in size xs and she found that bike a lot better fit and turn in was better for her.

But that bike was 21kg and only had a 400wh battery. Its low spec parts, its already out of date motor wise, too heavy with a battery too small.

What else is out there in teny tiny mullet full power bikes. That meet 20kg 600wh battery spec.

Hit me with ideas.

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Have a good look at Santa Cruz Vala LIte. Full power but a shy under 20kgs - mullet and small is for 5’1” to 5’5” so would seem spot on. It’s an awesome bike and defo up to the top shelf standard your Mrs is used to

 

[Lawsoc]

I wonder if a 600wh could be retrofitted in. That would make it ideal. Don't want an 800wh up front thats too much front weight bias and she'll complain about turning effort.

You will be able to as I put a 600hr battery in Unno Mith and it’s 19.5kgs

 

[franciscoasismm]

Teewing Turbo Force S Avinox M2S 600Wh ~20,8 kg

Teewing Turbo Force XT – Trail eMTB, 150mm Travel, Avinox M2S System

The Turbo Force XT is a modern trail eMTB with 150mm of rear wheel travel, Avinox M2S drive system, and trail tuned geometry. Designed for efficient climbing and confident descending on every trail.

teewingbikes.com

 

[cakeplease]

Vala C or CC if you must (£££), very very capable and light handling bike. If it comes down to physical weight then lighter tyres. Surely a few 100g here and there will be ok, as a %age of overall weight it is a fraction.

 

[spec]

How about Merida eONE SL? ~19.5kg

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[steve_sordy]

Build her a 19 kg Yeti Mte. Most petite women stick to easier trails and don't weigh much, so full power seems like all negative.

However, a used previous gen Amflow with a 600wh battery would be another candidate.

I thought Amflow didn't make a size small? So she definitely needs to throw a leg over one.

 

[RickBullotta]

Hey team,

Thinking about getting the missis an e. She is short af, 5'1 in a tall day. So need light weight. But would like full power and it needs to be size small 430 reach or less.

Currently she rides my daughters 60nm Orbea Rise size small gen 1 when we go on e bike rides. My daughter has the alloy version with 580hw battery and its about 20kg. She complains its too heavy and doesnt turn very well and she's not confident on it and prefers her mtb.

Her mtb is a fully worked 27.5 intense tracer. With carbon everything, enve wheels that weights around 12.5 kg.

So she has a pretty damn high bar on what acceptable.

We tried a mullet 2024 giant intrigue in size xs and she found that bike a lot better fit and turn in was better for her.

But that bike was 21kg and only had a 400wh battery. Its low spec parts, its already out of date motor wise, too heavy with a battery too small.

What else is out there in teny tiny mullet full power bikes. That meet 20kg 600wh battery spec.

Hit me with ideas.

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Liv 2024 Intrigue X Advanced E+ Elite 3 Next-level performance and unforgettable fun await you on this premium E-MTB. The cutting-edge Intrigue X Advanced E+ Elite is remarkably light yet super powerful. Get ready to feel like a pro as you shred technical terrain with confidence, accelerate up...

www.cyclescience.co.nz

Does she really need full power though? Depends on her weight. My wife is 105 lbs and a mid power Bosch SX is plenty of power to keep up with the guys on full power bikes who weigh more. She has a Pivot Shuttle SL/AM and a range extender for when she needs it for a long day.