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Levo Gen 3 Specialized Gen 3 2022 Levo Megathread!
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roccobarocco
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Is there anything new about that the Gen 3 will be supported by the App with OTA Updates?
electricbogaloo
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Yeah, will leave a sour taste if the Levo 4 will get future OTA updates while the Gen 3 needs to be dragged to a dealer. What kind of sense does that make apart from trying to milk legacy customers? Won't motivate me to buy another Levo apart from the mediocre successor...
I think it's unlikely there will be any further gen 3 updates anyway. Would be nice to get overrun control and dynamic microtune brought over though. My gen 3 always has a little over run and I would really like to turn it off totally.
electricbogaloo
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Yeah, its just odd that the last updates for the Gen 3 they dropped OTA support. Which is really weird and backwards. The thing is after the belt fiasko there was talk about Brose continually updating the belt and so far with it being bought by Yamaha its kinda unclear how that plays out. Specialized seemed to have dropped the ball there a bit.
Haven't they already brought out a tougher belt? The gen 3 motor is a standard Brose motor so I don't think there will be any issue regarding finding spare parts after the acquisition. Plus the new Levo motor is also Brose manufactured so the relationship is still there.
I do think Specialized should offer some more firmware support though as they shifted a bunch of gen 3 stock in the run up to the gen 4 so there's a lot of us out there who would appreciate some trickle down features. I wouldn't hold my breath though.
Eriftipu
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Glad I found this forum! Just bought my first ebike. A used 2022 Levo 3 Alloy with 250 miles/10 charge cycles and 6 months left on the warranty from a neighbor. Super stoked and put 2026 X2Grip 160 and the new 2026 DHX2 coil (600 spring) with the thicker shaft. Immediately upgraded the brakes to Hope GR4s and I am loving everything about it so far! The weather here in Colorado has been phenomenal for winter, so I've been able to get out on the trails a bit. Can't wait for summer up in Breck! If you're in Colorado, I highly recommend working with Ethan up in Boulder. He owns Dirt Merchant and was very helpful with my build!
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roccobarocco
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This is the reason I will not even consider buying anything from Spesh anymore again, such a bad customer service.
zerofunds
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The motor is gonna crap out anyway, might as well give us a little 5nm or 10nm bump
electricbogaloo
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The hardware updates to the motor were minimal including a tougher belt. But the reliability issues with the tougher belt didn't go away. They are still snapping. Just at a time when the bikes are out of warranty. I've read about Brise experimenting with stronger belts but I fear this didn't go forward any more since the motor is or might go out of production.
As the Brose warranty service centre for the UK and the trusted Specialized service centre for their after-warranty motor repairs... I would like to put the record straight. Brose tend to implement rolling changes without changing the motors designation or serial numbers. Over the last couple of years that have added extra sealing, changed the material of the planetary gears and ring gear for extra strength. Changed the sun gear belt pulley from magnesium to aluminium and altered the internal bearing position for added strength and less wear. Added a steel collar to better support the large belt pulley main bearing better, changed the belt from Gates to Dayco (which is definitely lasting well). Updated the software to give faster torque response for smoother linier acceleration, better light control for high power lights. The range calculation algorithm has been optimized, and new CAN battery diagnostics has been added.
With regards the belt, it should be classed as a "sacrificial" part. Most motors out there have at least one part that is weaker than the rest. In the event of a serious pedal strike, or crash, the motor can be massively overloaded with forces going through the crankshaft and internal drive train way higher than the design tolerances. If the motor was designed to take these impacts, it would need far larger, stronger parts internally, and these parts would weigh significantly more, resulting in a larger heavier motor. Brose is one of the only motors where this part, the belt, can be changed relatively easily and cheaply. For example, many other motors use a plastic gear which is expensive, difficult to change or completely unobtainable.
Also, the Brose motor can be further strengthened and upgraded by us at eBike Motor Centre or any of our partners Worldwide.
Picture below showing new Alu motors being upgraded by us for hire fleet work.
electricbogaloo
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In case of a warranty claim with the motor do I contact a specialized dealer or can I contact one of the centers listed on your site in the EU? Because I bought my bike online and the retailer went bankrupt. I'm still inside the two year eu warranty.
Here the dayco belt and the corresponding motor serial number (can be read out via an apk of the old mission control app): https://www.pedelecforum.de/forum/i...besitzer-und-fans.86291/page-100#post-2054200
According to that I have this new belt but I can't really see a blueish axle of the motor or do I need to remove the cranks for that? (apparently the crank axles of the newest upgraded motors have a blueish color)
Here the dayco belt and the corresponding motor serial number (can be read out via an apk of the old mission control app): https://www.pedelecforum.de/forum/i...besitzer-und-fans.86291/page-100#post-2054200
According to that I have this new belt but I can't really see a blueish axle of the motor or do I need to remove the cranks for that? (apparently the crank axles of the newest upgraded motors have a blueish color)
Specialized handle their own warranty direct with Brose through their Specialized retail outlets. We only look after their after warranty repairs.
You would need to remove the crankarms to see the crankshaft but you can't tell by crankshaft colour as this can change with production batches.
DuncanDoughnuts
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Nope....
Gen 3 is a legacy product now and Specialised no longer plan to support it. (Software wise)
Its there way to force you to either get a gen4 or change bike brands.
Sorry to say
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Just to assure everyone, the motor is still in production, Specialized and Brose (now Yamaha) do plan to support this motor for the foreseeable future, so it will not force anyone to change their bike. Specialized and I put a lot of time and effort into setting up the after warranty repair service, so that even when all the warranties are dead and buried a solution is still possible. Manufacturers will usually still continue to support their motors with parts and software updates for 10 years following the the end of production.
...and there is nothing wrong with gen 3 Levo as it is.....does not need any software upgrades., and @Bearing Man is on standby for any motor issues.
electricbogaloo
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When it runs its a fine bike! Still one of the lightest and most silent full power enduros with a quickly removable battery. And with the cascade links it is a proper enduro.
I just wonder if the last firmware update is even worth the hassle bringing it to some dealer. I didn't even get a notification that my firmware is outdated. But I think I don't have the newest one (bought a 22/23 model in early/mid 2024).
I just wonder if the last firmware update is even worth the hassle bringing it to some dealer. I didn't even get a notification that my firmware is outdated. But I think I don't have the newest one (bought a 22/23 model in early/mid 2024).
Tyjay
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Hi
Anyone got the hardware to put a gen 3 battery into a gen 2 turbo levo
Looking for one and maybe 2
Iv created a wanted ad if anyone’s got one lying round
Cheers
Anyone got the hardware to put a gen 3 battery into a gen 2 turbo levo
Looking for one and maybe 2
Iv created a wanted ad if anyone’s got one lying round
Cheers
Jersey Skier
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Recently had a motor in for the full upgrade service at the US Ebike motor repair service center. Has anyone received their motor back and found it to be extremely loud? The constant whirring is louder than any motor I've ever heard. I was a Specialized dealer for over 20 years and have sold and ridden Levos since they came out and never had one this loud, even as the belts shredded within the housing.
For the gen2 rockguard, I would go with this:
KeLevo Rockguard (S194200005 Turbo Levo rock guard) | springercustomworks
Description:Replacement Rockguard for Specialized Turbo Levo and Kenevo. Original part number S194200005 Made from TPU plastic by injection molding. It's much more flexible material which absorb impacts. Compatible with: (M2 series battery)Turbo levo MY 2019-2021Kenevo MY 2020-2024Including...
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Pedro Sousa Lima
New Member
Voce trocou o motor para uma versão mais atual? teve de fazer adaptações?
@Bearing Man
I did a preventive service of my 2022 Levo motor at one of your partners last year. Great customer service by the way. My picture heavy review here.
Unfortunately, after around 500 km my motor failed (this happened). I sent the motor to the same service center for repair, but sadly the motor got lost by the carrier during return shipping.
I was desperate to get back on the bike, so I ended up buying a brand new motor instead. The label says production date February 2026.
Since you mentioned the rolling changes and upgrades Brose has been implementing over the years, I’m curious what improvements this latest version has compared to my old motor produced in November 2021?
Are there still any known weak points in the newer motors that are worth addressing preventively in your shop, or have most of the earlier issues been resolved by now?
Motor labels:
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veryoldfart
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People who dont know how to use bike gears and instead rely on the motor boost to do everything. Plus they dont maintain their bike after use. Plus use power jets on cranks, motor.
My S Works was delivered Dec ‘21, has done 000s of km including 2 Alpine trips and numerous wet, muddy uk routes and the original motor has only just been serviced by ebike motors in Hampshire.
BTW hats off to them, excellent service & turnaround.
Also Cycles uk in Chelmsford who removed & replaced the motor. Even though I service & maintain & assembled our bikes, so glad I relied on their expertise. Well done Harry.
A minor crack on one motor mount is all the motor engineers reported & they said this was consistent with lots of rocky descents and quite common.
So, this is one content Specialized rider.
But, I did have to get Fox to replace the rear shock which expired. They dId, FOC. Again a well known fault with shocks of that vintage.
electricbogaloo
Active member
Oof! So after the preemtive service the belt crapped out? Was it a new belt? From what I've read it's vital that the belt gets mounted correctly with the right tension of som spanner or something...
If you got a brand new motor (what did you pay?) then I wouldn't do any preemtive maintenance as you have warranty what most likely will get voiced if you open it.
Sorry for my late response. There have been a large number of changes since 2021 to 2026.
An internal seal has been added to the drive side of the crankshaft.
Planetary gear material has been changed.
Ring gear material change.
Small belt pulley material change.
Large belt pulley material change.
Drive belt change.
Large pulley bearing collar fitted.
Several software changes and updates.
Internal torque sensor pick-up change.
And probably a few more I can't think of right now.
We can still improve on this motor, we still add two more layers of sealing, tougher sprag clutch bearings and some exotic lubricants etc.
Without invasively taking the motor apart is the way to tell?
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