Maybe new Molicel INR-21700-P60C, 20 x 75 g, = 1.5 kg cells + case, BMS for total 1.8 kg 432wh or even Molicel INR-21700-M65A for 468 wh same weight., less power....A 900Wh(max 940Wh) is definitely possible already a lot written about it. Slightly less capacity(6,2Ah) cells would equal to 900Wh. Or they are just being modest with the actual numbers and it's in reality a cca 930Wh.
But a 1,5 kg 400Wh is obviously highly unlikely, let's elaborate.
With 21700 cells(5,5Ah) only the cells, in this case for 400Wh we need 20 cells × 73g would weigh in at cca 1450g. 50g for the rest(housing, cell holders, wiring, bms,..)?
Unlikely to use those cells, but the older inferior 18650 cells(3,6Ah), in this cas for 400Wh we need 30 cells x 45g would weigh in at cca 1350g. A 150g for the rest(housing, cell holders, wiring, bms,..)?
Unless Amflow/DJI is a step ahead?
The only theoreticaly possible way for a 1,5kg 400Wh Wh REx is the use of solid state battery tech that's is emerging and promises 400Wh/kg. In that case you stil have 0,5kg left for the rest of the REx(actually u don't need wiring, cell holders, only a bms and a connector).
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Rando_12345
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Every time i check this forum (which is admitedly too often)
I think we know all there is to know about the motor .. but as for the rest, maybe this helps with the LEVO 4 thread (though I only did a silhouette there). Maybe helps define expectations ?
Sorry, I fecked up the new logo style in the process. Only three days to go ...
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good math, I already also wrote in one of the threads about these possible REx.I had a brainstorm about the possible form factor this size REx could have.
We need to stack 20 cells
1. A square shape (2x5 bottom rows, 2x5 top rows). REx cca 37cm in length, 5cm in height and 5cm in width.
2. A trapezoidal shape 3 x 4 bottom rows and 2 x 4 top rows. REx cca 30cm in length, 4,5cm in height, 5 to 7cm in width.
3. A slim rectangular shape 3 x 7 bottom rows(1 row has only 6 cells). REx cca 52cm in length, 3cm in height, 7cm in width.
That's a repost from an April fools day thread
They don't have it probably because of 28 mph on flat requires quite a lot of power. While they can easily remove the speed limit it will be useless with the level of power those motor have. I have an e-mtb with Yamaha P-WX motor with installed Speedbox (speed limit remover hacking dongle) and I struggle to go faster than 22-24 mph on flat. So opening the speed limit to 28 mph would work against them because of people would start asking and complaining about why the motor has limit up to 28mph but can not achieve it or sustain it with little effort. It makes sense to unlock the 28 mph speed limit only if your motor has enough power to achieve such speed.
If the new Avinox M2 has 1500W of power it makes sense for them to unlock 28 mph speed limit because of that is about the power you need to cruise at 28 mph without sweeting too much. Bafang M620 motor has this level of power and it can go around that speed on flat with not much effort.
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Battery's too small.....there needs to be another the same size on the top tube as an extender...I think we know all there is to know about the motor .. but as for the rest, maybe this helps with the LEVO 4 thread (though I only did a silhouette there). Maybe helps define expectations ?
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Sorry, I fecked up the new logo style in the process. Only three days to go ...
That’s not really true. My current derestricted G4 Bosch CX Race with 600w and 85nm can sustain 28mph on the flats when I’m pushing it and I can get to 30mph in a short sprint. The newer G5 with 750w and 100nm could do it a lot easier. Also the Specialized G4 and original Avinox M1 already have the class 3 option and don’t have any issues sustaining that speed.
New Zealand and Hong Kong don’t have that limit for Bosch powered eMTB’s. They could have class 3 but they dug this class one 750W hole and now they have to hide in it or look like hypocrites.
Gordon
It's coming soon. Already been confirmed by Bosch NZ.
Their attempts to limit peak power to 750w has more holes in it than Swiss Cheese, with many of the new motors being released, now having higher peaks.
They will fold their crap hand, and follow trends, or be relegated to the Nokia of Electric Bicycle Motor Systems.
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Been there, done that.
Articles already dropped at midnight
dadeadduck
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Amflow website updated with new models:
£3999 PR
£5399 PR pro
£6499 PX
£8999 PX Pro
4k for PR is great value for money, disruption ahead.
All out of stock.
£3999 PR
£5399 PR pro
£6499 PX
£8999 PX Pro
4k for PR is great value for money, disruption ahead.
All out of stock.
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So ...
Amflow - Lots of New Info !
700Wh battery uses larger cells for higher continuous current draw and improved power density
No Range Extender for PX, but the 600Wh removable battery for the PR can be mounted inside the PR front triangle in a "cage", but only on the larger sizes.
There is a strap that goes round the frame and the top end of the piggyback battery (not shown).
M2 motor in the Cheapo PR - £3,999
SRAM AXS throughout PX and PR.
Wired for Auto, Coast etc.
Amflow - Lots of New Info !
700Wh battery uses larger cells for higher continuous current draw and improved power density
No Range Extender for PX, but the 600Wh removable battery for the PR can be mounted inside the PR front triangle in a "cage", but only on the larger sizes.
There is a strap that goes round the frame and the top end of the piggyback battery (not shown).
M2 motor in the Cheapo PR - £3,999
SRAM AXS throughout PX and PR.
Wired for Auto, Coast etc.
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Wojtek
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Do we know if the dual setup works also with PX or only PR (which is what i assume).
Wojtek
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Thanks ! I guess the battery cells for PR are different than for PX and different than for older PL..
Any word if the regular PX Carbon (non-pro) can use the sim? Or same display as PR series?
All the PX models seem to be using the same controller, so SIM is available and as a nice touch they include a little screwdriver just for getting to the SIM slot
Plus lots of other freebies in the accessory goodie bags !!!
Lights, bell, reflectors, mirror mount, torque wrench, shock pump, SIM Screwdriver, pedals, USB-C cable.
Plus flip chips, headset cups, dropper post shims, and some bits of frame protection film.
PX uses the New cells
PR and PL use the same cells ( I think !)
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PR removeable doesnt reduce the peak power - it is at 1500W whereas the older ones are reduced to 1300W. Hence my initial assumption. It could be same cells but different BMS/wiring)....
action99
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From the official Amflow site:
Amflow PX - Leicht und ohne Limits - Amflow (Deutschland)
Das Amflow PX vereint 150 N·m Spitzendrehmoment und 1500 W Spitzenleistung in der kompakten Avinox M2S Antriebseinheit. Unterstützt durch einen 700-Wh-Premium-Akku mit hoher Kapazität, liefert es eine neue Antwort auf die ultimative Balance zwischen Leistung, Reichweite und Gewicht.
www.amflowbikes.com
12. Due to size constraints, the Avinox RS600 Battery is only available for XL and XXL models in the Amflow PX series and is sold separately. Additional configurations will be available soon.
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