Velduro Rogue 170/165 mullet Enduro with DJI

What about all the New Zealand frames already in hand? did they have a non-disclosure? or is the motor being updated between their batch and UK's?
 
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These have actually taken a lot longer than I thought they were going to take.
 
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are the bikes for the other euro distributors on the same container/ship?
 
These have actually taken a lot longer than I thought they were going to take.
of course you need to bring negativity to this again. but do tell, where and when was it said that these will arrive any sooner than late march/early april? because that was exactly the date i was told back in august when i test rode the bike. let’s hear it from the expert!
 
are the bikes for the other euro distributors on the same container/ship?

Who is this Passive Aggressive Sweetheart and what did you do with Sethimus?!
of course you need to bring negativity to this again. but do tell, where and when was it said that these will arrive any sooner than late march/early april? because that was exactly the date i was told back in august when i test rode the bike. let’s hear it from the expert!

Oh there you are, right on cue.
 
¿Las bicicletas de los demás distribuidores europeos están en el mismo contenedor/barco?
El motor es suficiente y realmente no necesito más potencia, pero simplemente no quiero un cuadro de 3 meses con un motor obsoleto.

The motor is quite enough and don't really need more power but just don't want a 3 month old frame with an outdated motor.
And why did you buy it?
Even Martians knew three months ago that a new engine was coming.
 
Noise really irritates me, but the M1 doesn’t actually bother me. I can barely hear it with a full face on.

And anyone who needs more power would have to be obese.
I don't want a rattly motor, and I'm obese (110kg).

I demoed some Bosch CX5 bikes with the 100nm/750w update and it was great on fitness rides (only need 100-300w for that) but felt so slow when lapping bike parks; I want more power and a higher max assistance ratio (Bosch is 400% I think). Never ridden an Avinox bike but it should give me at least a few more enduro/DH laps per day.

I currently use a 150nm/1500w CYC X1 Stealth motor on my Geometron G1. The ride quality (i.e. smoothness of torque sensing) and noise is pretty bad compared to the Bosch, but the power is nice for fire road climbs. Ideally I want a motor with CYC levels of power but Bosch levels of smoothness/silence, so it works well for both low-assistance fitness rides and smashing bike park laps. I'm hoping the new Avinox comes close.

FWIW, someone who works for a major bike manufacturer told me Bosch was getting upgraded to 130nm/1000w this May, but someone else told me it wasn't confirmed yet.
 
I don't want a rattly motor, and I'm obese (110kg).

I demoed some Bosch CX5 bikes with the 100nm/750w update and it was great on fitness rides (only need 100-300w for that) but felt so slow when lapping bike parks; I want more power and a higher max assistance ratio (Bosch is 400% I think). Never ridden an Avinox bike but it should give me at least a few more enduro/DH laps per day.

I currently use a 150nm/1500w CYC X1 Stealth motor on my Geometron G1. The ride quality (i.e. smoothness of torque sensing) and noise is pretty bad compared to the Bosch, but the power is nice for fire road climbs. Ideally I want a motor with CYC levels of power but Bosch levels of smoothness/silence, so it works well for both low-assistance fitness rides and smashing bike park laps. I'm hoping the new Avinox comes close.

FWIW, someone who works for a major bike manufacturer told me Bosch was getting upgraded to 130nm/1000w this May, but someone else told me it wasn't confirmed yet.
With higher assistance and power will come less range.... so wanting more laps per day will be highly dependent on your usage. What size battery are you running with the CYC, bet its bigger than a 800 wH Avinox. Also chuckle at the fact of comparing the Bosch CX-5 with fitness rides... lmao.
 
With higher assistance and power will come less range.... so wanting more laps per day will be highly dependent on your usage. What size battery are you running with the CYC, bet its bigger than a 800 wH Avinox. Also chuckle at the fact of comparing the Bosch CX-5 with fitness rides... lmao.
I build my own batteries for the CYC. Currently have one 480wh and one 520wh. They charge at up to 50A and 12A respectively, so I just leave one on charge while I use the other, then swap them out, which gives me infinite range at low weight. Or mount both at the same time for longer rides.

I wish there were more Avinox bikes with removable batteries, but 12A charging is an okay-ish alternative. If Bosch increases the max assistance ratio, I'll consider a Bosch-powered bike as many of them have swappable batteries. But for now, Avinox seems the way to go.
 
I don't want a rattly motor, and I'm obese (110kg).

I demoed some Bosch CX5 bikes with the 100nm/750w update and it was great on fitness rides (only need 100-300w for that) but felt so slow when lapping bike parks; I want more power and a higher max assistance ratio (Bosch is 400% I think). Never ridden an Avinox bike but it should give me at least a few more enduro/DH laps per day.

I currently use a 150nm/1500w CYC X1 Stealth motor on my Geometron G1. The ride quality (i.e. smoothness of torque sensing) and noise is pretty bad compared to the Bosch, but the power is nice for fire road climbs. Ideally I want a motor with CYC levels of power but Bosch levels of smoothness/silence, so it works well for both low-assistance fitness rides and smashing bike park laps. I'm hoping the new Avinox comes close.

FWIW, someone who works for a major bike manufacturer told me Bosch was getting upgraded to 130nm/1000w this May, but someone else told me it wasn't confirmed yet.

Sadly, they sort of have to.
 
DJI M1 even if outdated by M2 will still be the second best motor on the market. So I’ll be happy. Also wanting to share some geo info, have a 180mm fork and mullet, high rise bars. Been feeling unbalanced on the bike in corners, front wheel wanting to wash. Put a 29er on the back, left in 27.5 position and damn it made me feel more centered, confident in corners, and more in line with original geo. Still wish it had a longer chainstay! Thinking I need to change head angle to something steeper. Overall 600km+ on the bike and it really is a beautiful rig and loving the overall package!
 
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DJI M1 even if outdated by M2 will still be the second best motor on the market. So I’ll be happy. Also wanting to share some geo info, have a 180mm fork and mullet, high rise bars. Been feeling unbalanced on the bike in corners, front wheel wanting to wash. Put a 29er on the back, left in 27.5 position and damn it made me feel more centered, confident in corners, and more in line with original geo. Still wish it had a longer chainstay! Thinking I need to change head angle to something steeper. Overall 600km+ on the bike and it really is a beautiful rig and loving the overall package!
I've done this exact trick on two bikes so far and it's always been a big improvement. Currently my relay is set up this way. The frame setting is in mullet but I have a 29er on the back, so it's steeper. Just really helps the front end bite. I do prefer mx though for their maneuverability.
 
Any word on whether the Rogue will be rated for dual crown forks? I think I heard a while ago that it was being tested and might be approved, but I might be conflating Cat 5 testing with dual crown testing; apparently Cat 5 doesn't automatically include dual crown.
 
DJI M1 even if outdated by M2 will still be the second best motor on the market. So I’ll be happy. Also wanting to share some geo info, have a 180mm fork and mullet, high rise bars. Been feeling unbalanced on the bike in corners, front wheel wanting to wash. Put a 29er on the back, left in 27.5 position and damn it made me feel more centered, confident in corners, and more in line with original geo. Still wish it had a longer chainstay! Thinking I need to change head angle to something steeper. Overall 600km+ on the bike and it really is a beautiful rig and loving the overall package!
Hi, which stem length and how much rise do you Ride?
 
Any word on whether the Rogue will be rated for dual crown forks? I think I heard a while ago that it was being tested and might be approved, but I might be conflating Cat 5 testing with dual crown testing; apparently Cat 5 doesn't automatically include dual crown.

Cat 5 does not automatically mean dual crown certified. Although the frame may be strong enough to run a dual crown in terms of build quality, there may be limitations such as bottom tube width (too big and limits steering angle) meaning it's not recommended

Cat 5 in rider terms basically means the bike can take a punishing 😁😍
 
Any word on whether the Rogue will be rated for dual crown forks? I think I heard a while ago that it was being tested and might be approved, but I might be conflating Cat 5 testing with dual crown testing; apparently Cat 5 doesn't automatically include dual crown.
I suspect not in this batch at least. Future batches? Who knows at this stage.
The information released back in October is unlikely to be correct unfortunately as far as we know.
Which is a shame as i based my order on this. Probably going to have to buy a single crown fork now rather than the 40 i planned to use.

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Anyway, here is a pic of one I found on Instagram. Steering lock would be terrible with a usd fork with the big upper tubes, depending on how much offset was in the crowns.

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from the coil riders, how are the spring rates?
for an EXT e storia I did a EXT calculator at 30% sag giving 475lb/in, J-tech-suspension have suggested 525lb/in.
shall I go middle for 500lb/in?
(I'm 92kg)
 
from the coil riders, how are the spring rates?
for an EXT e storia I did a EXT calculator at 30% sag giving 475lb/in, J-tech-suspension have suggested 525lb/in.
shall I go middle for 500lb/in?
(I'm 92kg)
The jtech calculator takes into account leverage i recall. I got the info from the published suspension curve. Came out at 600lb @100kg i recall. Haven't got the bike yet to confirm that though.
An official chart would be useful.
 
The jtech calculator takes into account leverage i recall. I got the info from the published suspension curve. Came out at 600lb @100kg i recall. Haven't got the bike yet to confirm that though.
An official chart would be useful.
hopefully some NZ guys can answer
 
The jtech calculator takes into account leverage i recall. I got the info from the published suspension curve. Came out at 600lb @100kg i recall. Haven't got the bike yet to confirm that though.
An official chart would be useful.

I've found these online charts are completely useless. Even the paid versions where you input all your details are way off. They can't possibly predict the best spring for you as they don't have enough data to work from

So many values are in play that these charts can't predict

For perspective I was recommended the following springs based on my details from different companies and charts for me on my orbea wild
Ohlins - 511lb
J-tech - 475lb
Tf tuned - 500lb

Real world after testing with different springs - 605lb for tech, 648lb for jumps

Way off what I was recommended

Best way to do it is use your usual spring size youre familiar with and then see where youre at. Feels stiff, downsize. Feels soft, up size.
 
from the coil riders, how are the spring rates?
for an EXT e storia I did a EXT calculator at 30% sag giving 475lb/in, J-tech-suspension have suggested 525lb/in.
shall I go middle for 500lb/in?
(I'm 92kg)
i had a 550 in my ksl and plan to reuse it. i‘m 95kgish. way suggested by my fast suspension dealer
 
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