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Article Video: Teewing Flux 180mm, high-pivot, Avinox EMTB first look and ride
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I noticed Pushys have stopped advertising the base model Teewing Turbo Force. And the high spec one is showing Sold Out in all sizes.
I hope the bike was super popular, rather than delivery issues.
I hope the bike was super popular, rather than delivery issues.
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Im guessing they've sold out of stock till the new motor drops and seeing how there is an embargo they cant advertise the bike with the updated motor specs.
Just sold my Merida E160. The money is burning a hole in my pocket. I hope the Flux is released soon. I want my Avinox Enduro. 
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I’m guessing they are waiting for the updated motor to drop first, which I think is late March/early April, fingers crossed they’ve already shipped stock ahead of the announcement so it’s ready to go straight away.
I think Amflow might also be releasing a high pivot enduro too, exciting times.
Going to be hard to beat the Flux though, the geo looks spot on.
I think Amflow might also be releasing a high pivot enduro too, exciting times.
Going to be hard to beat the Flux though, the geo looks spot on.
Might come down to pricing. But with the sale of my spare EMTB. The wife has signed off on Enduro purchase. I really don't mind if it's Amflow or Teewing.
My concern is how long it will take for each to be delivered if they are all waiting for the M2 to be announced. It could be 6 months.
This is where the Flux might really out perform the other Avinox Enduros. One of the reasons I got a refund on the Velduro Frame, was cost compared to what the Flux could be sold at. The Velduro in frame only with shock was AUD$8800.
As I mentioned previously. The Flux pricing for the complete bike in base model, could be about AUD$8500, based on European pricing of the Teewing Turbo Force Vs the Flux. As the Turbo Force is being sold in Australia at AUD$8K.
And the spec on the Base Model was quite solid. Fox 38 Performance Fork. Fox Float X shock. SRAM Eagle 90 transmission. Double Down casing tyres. Maven brakes. There really isn't a lot I would upgrade, other than buying the SRAM Eagle transmission Conversion Kit to convert the Eagle 90 to SRAM GX Eagle Electronic Transmission. A conversion Rob did on his Crestline.
And that brings us to the other Avinox Enduro option of the Crestline RS181. It is just too expensive in Australia due to the currency conversion. As is the Forbidden, which also has less suspension travel.
So unless Amflow do bring out another barn storming bike like the All Mountain PL Carbon, in an Enduro. I really am relying on the Teewing.
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Good news for the coming year of new emtb’s for both price and availability . Tariffs that have added hundreds of dollars to e-bike prices have been struck down. Just in time for the introduction of many new designs, without them, manufacturers and retailers could pass some of that relief on to buyers and consumer prices could drop moderately. “De-Liberation Day”, with the recent U.S. Supreme Court decision striking down the “Liberation Day” global tariffs as unconstitutional. Import Costs for U.S. Importers should fall. So without those tariffs: The tax wedge on many Chinese imports reduces. Importers have lower costs. Retailers could lower prices hopefully or at least take pressure off of the uncertainty of random Tariffs.
sethimus
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what tariffs? the ones affecting only a tiny local market?
slickrock
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Yeah, that tiny, local, inconsequential US market.
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Don’t worry, already threatening an extra 10% tariff under another statute for no reason other then his mangina got hurt. Me on the other hand can’t wait for my tariff free Flux in Aus, they can’t release it soon enough
sethimus
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per capita vs. germany? yes, quite tiny actually
slickrock
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Silly Daffy. By that measure, let's only worry about tariffs on Monaco.
The problem of uncertainty still remains for importers of foreign goods. You cannot make a business plan when landed costs just keeps shifting.
I hope the US sorts this out. I've just come back from visiting my son in Seattle, and crossing over into Canada to do some skiing. It's super expensive in the US, hence we moved our annual ski trip in Tahoe, to Sun Peaks in Canada.
Only good news was Gas seemed a bit better in the US. But my son and I were running electric cars. We had NACs adapters so we were able to use the Tesla Supercharger Network, which was just brilliant in the US and Canada. Really cheap in Canada too.
With the rise of Avinox Motored EMTBs, like the Flux. I hope the US stabilizers the imported costs, so these bikes can be accessed by Americans at a reasonable price. Owning an Amflow PL Carbon Pro. These bikes are ground-breaking in the how they improve your riding, without spending a fortune.
As I said. I just sold my spare 2025 Merida E160. So I took it for a test ride just before I sold it. The difficulty to do tricks was night and day difference, compared to the Amflow. This would vastly impact my climbing and descending ability. So no wonder all my riding buddies have commented on how much I have improved, since getting the Amflow. And is 100% why I want an Avinox powered Enduro to further improve my descending.
I hope the Flux is able to accomplish that. But I think there will be a flood of Avinox Enduros that will accomplish that in 2026. It would be a shame for Americans to miss the option of trying them.
Even with tariffs buying a Teewing is still considerably cheaper in the US then it is in Australia and we had access to them before you did..... So how is this hurting us again?
As far as high prices in the US, you can thank the previous admin and his mandated lock downs for that. They are actually starting to come down a little now.
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You sure about that? $6250usd converted to AUD is $8800. The Teewing XT in Australia is $8k.
100%, I paid much less then that and if you compare the current pro price it's still cheaper in the US. They have gone up though.
And I have one I've been riding for months so the whole lack of availability in the US, is BS
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Mate. I made zero comment as to why. Frankly it really isn't my business. I'm just commenting as a foreigner visiting your country.
The plane from Sydney to San Fran was only half full. Never experienced this before. The costs in the US are keeping foreigner away. And maybe that's what America wants. And good luck to you. It's none of my business. I'm just expressing my experience as a foreigner visiting.
Do you have a link? The Amflow is far more expensive in the US, and my son wants an Avinox powered EMTB. I have already told him about the Teewing. Would love to get it for that cheap.
The Amflow in Australia is USD$6.6k including all taxes. Can only find it around USD$8K, after all the taxes you guys have. In Australia. The advertised price is the final price.
Is that including Tax ? Because the advertised price in America, is the price before tax. Whilst the advertised price in Australia, is the price after tax.
Really? Then why even bring up anything about the costs in the US period? It Has absolutely Nothing to do with the Teewing Flux, which I thought was what this thread was about.
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Ummm ...... Because I thought it would push up the price of the Flux in the US.
Mate, I'm not looking for a political argument. I want my son to be able to buy Avinox EMTBs. I want to buy one there, to leave, so we can ride together when I visit.
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Yeah, don’t know that! So the XT is $1300aud more in the U.S. #winning
slickrock
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It would demystify things if you can share when you bought the frame/bike, what base price you paid at that time, and details of shipping/insurance fees, including details how you got the frame imported into the US, including duty impounds, which from China include: standard harmonized tariff duty for ebikes + Section 301 Trade Act + the Administration's Reciprocal Tariff imposed on China at that time (about a 55% impact when I last checked in December). If you skirted these tariffs, was it luck of the draw or if you reduced import duties by adjusting down the customer invoice declaration amount? If it's that easy and that cheap, many folks in the US would like to hear details about it.
Also, sounds like you been riding around on the bike for some time, perhaps you share some details of that experience and how it compares to other ebikes you've rode. Folks here would really like to understand your configuration, suspension performance, balance in corners, kinematics, geo fit, and other aspects of this bike. Pics would be cool as well.
sethimus
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germany is about as big as usa, canada and mexico, so yes, only a few people in the us are buying bikes. aka a tiny market
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What is it about the Amflow that improved your riding so much over the Merida? I would imagine that the motor power could be advantagous when climbing, but you also mentioned descending ability, which I don't tend to think of having much to do with the motor. Is the Amflow frame/suspenion that much better than the Merida frame/suspension?
Hey @iamandisykes , how would you say the Flux compared to the Commencal Avinox you rode? Which one would you buy with your own money?
The lightness of the Amflow helps me clear obstacles, on both ascending and descending. It's easier to get the bike in the air, and I also feel more in control of the bike when airbourne. The Merida was 25kgs. The Amflow just over 20kgs. I find the weight of the bike makes a big difference in your ability to move it around under you.
The power and torque of the motor also helps in getting your front wheel up, when leaping off things. You only need a shorter take off area. It also gives me more time to focus on getting the rear wheel up as well, if needed.
I also just take different lines on the Amflow. I tend to just go over stuff rather than round it, because of the listed above benefits.
That said. If it's just rooty, chunky, technical downhill. The Merida definitely ploughed through better. It's why I want a Flux as the stablemate to the Amflow. But I would also consider an Amflow Enduro, if they release it in 2026.
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