Other Gen 2 Trek Fuel + (EXE) Official thread.

[Yobbo]

It could be that the spec is written incorrectly on the website or it could just be an omission in the build. Bike makers usually have a caveat about substitutions & parts availability somewhere. The spec on the Trek website does say that the 9.7, 9,8 and 9.9 regardless of if it is an EX, LX or MX come with 'angle-adjust headset' and the original Trek Promo video on YouTube shows one of the high end bikes making the adjustment. The 5 and the 8 don't show adjustable cups in their written spec on the website, they instead have something listed as a 'ZS headset'

 

[DylanJM]

The frames are all likely built to take a angle adjust headset. Whether or not all builds include the actual angle adjust cups is another question. If they don't they can just be purchased aftermarket.

 

[Mini Me]

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here's my modified ex 9.7

Nice! What does it weigh in that configuration?

 

[Pat Rick]

Nice! What does it weigh in that configuration?

21kg with mallet pedals and dd tires
but will go down to around 20.5kg (will change cranks, saddle, casette)

 

[Yobbo]

I have just completed a two-day range test on my Fuel+ at a nearby large forest where I was riding only on Fire Roads and a few easy Green & Blue fitness/cardio trails with berms. The forest terrain is pan flat with firm dirt roads, a few roots and very little mud. The total ascent was about 1150 feet (350m) for the two days. I ran the bike down to 1% of battery and used only Eco for the whole time so that I could put a small marker in my memory as to what the bike can do range-wise. I did not have a range extender and I used the default motor settings although the bike was running 2.4 tyres rather than the standard 2.5's. In total, the 580 battery lasted a very respectable 71 miles (114km) over the two days, which I thought was pretty good and is about 15% further than I was expecting.

 

[tickle]

What kind of power and torque does the motor use in Eco? TBH I would of thought the 580 battery would provide more range in the lowest setting. As an example my Rise w/360 battery says it can do 67 miles in Eco per my Garmin, never verified that tho. I have it setup to provide 20% assist and 29nm torque in Eco so pretty minimal assist, I don't use that mode much tho.

Very interested in this bike, might get one for next season

 

[Pat Rick]

cant talk about the hpr60 yet, but the hpr50 setting on the trek fuel exe was 100/200/300 Watts in standard settings

 

[mtnrider]

As an example my Rise w/360 battery says it can do 67 miles in Eco per my Garmin, never verified that tho.

You should test that because unless it is all down hill I'd be surprised if you can get half that distance with 360 battery.

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[tickle]

So in the middle "trail" mode the Garmin says 33 miles, I have done 30 miles and 3k climbing by using the trail mode about 80% of the time with eco 20%. I bet if I did a flat ride in trail mode I would get close to the 33 miles shown.

I think the power/torque settings in eco mode on mine are probably lower than the stock Fuel+ which is why I asked what the power/torque is in eco

**edit: I found a video of this bike talking about the stock settings, the eco mode showed max 102w and 86% assist. That's a lot more power than mine in eco so the range makes sense

 

[Yobbo]

Folks were asking about the default HPR60 motor settings. Tickle above is correct for the basic Eco motor setting. Here is my default eco screen with summaries for the other default screens. Pedal response seems to be the same for all three power settings. Sorry the image is a bit big.

Hopefully this is helpful for those thinking about purchasing the bike I may turn down the eco setting as I am finding that I am not quite getting the physical work-out that I need with 102w, so I will experiment with this in the weeks ahead.

 

[JP-NZ]

Folks were asking about the default HPR60 motor settings. Tickle above is correct for the basic Eco motor setting. Here is my default eco screen with summaries for the other default screens. Pedal response seems to be the same for all three power settings. Sorry the image is a bit big.

Hopefully this is helpful for those thinking about purchasing the bike I may turn down the eco setting as I am finding that I am not quite getting the physical work-out that I need with 102w, so I will experiment with this in the weeks ahead.

Rather than change the watts I'd look at moving support to circa 50% and see how that feels.

 

[enato]

Hah, the new Fuel+ hasn't even launched in New Zealand yet so all I can see is overseas pics sadly.

I believe Trek NZ has a LOT of Fuel Ex-e stock on hand so won't be in a rush to offer the new model. Most Ex-e's have been on 40% off clearence deals for months.

I'm in NZ and interested in this bike too. I gave Trek a call today after trying a couple of dealers who didn't seem to know the bike exists. Unfortunately they won't be bringing them into NZ for FY26, they said perhaps FY27, but for now the focus is on the Rail +. Dang.

 

[JP-NZ]

I'm in NZ and interested in this bike too. I gave Trek a call today after trying a couple of dealers who didn't seem to know the bike exists. Unfortunately they won't be bringing them into NZ for FY26, they said perhaps FY27, but for now the focus is on the Rail +. Dang.

Yea, exactly as I posted previously Trek NZ has a LOT of Exe stock to sell through before a newer model. I think we will see the Fuel+ early to mid 2026.

 

[wtsheff]

Has anyone tried to derestrict their Fuel+ yet? I purchased a kit for mine but it is much more complicated to install than the one I put on my Turbo Levo. My Turbo Levo kit could be removed in several minutes while the Fuel+ kit will be more labor intensive to remove for any trips back to the Trek service department. Does anyone else find it really annoying for the power to be constantly cutting out at 19-20mph. I guess I should have never exposed myself to the joys of riding a derestricted E-bike.

 

[visionone]

Has anyone tried to derestrict their Fuel+ yet? I purchased a kit for mine but it is much more complicated to install than the one I put on my Turbo Levo. My Turbo Levo kit could be removed in several minutes while the Fuel+ kit will be more labor intensive to remove for any trips back to the Trek service department. Does anyone else find it really annoying for the power to be constantly cutting out at 19-20mph. I guess I should have never exposed myself to the joys of riding a derestricted E-bike.

Which one did you get? I got one on the way from speedbox

 

[wtsheff]

Which one did you get? I got one on the way from speedbox

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This is what I purchased. It was the less expensive option and because of that it does not relay accurate information to the display. I personally don't need to know my current speed at all times. The previous derestrictor on my Specialized worked the same way. I am in the U.S. and I could not find an establishment that manufactured these devices here.​

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SpeedFun Furious Evo easy+ for TQ HPR50 and TQ HPR60​

This tuning kit is compatible with TQ HPR50 and HPR60 motors regardless of the display/handlebar control installed on the e-bike. Does not show real speed data on the display / app

 

[Free54]

I have just completed a two-day range test on my Fuel+ at a nearby large forest where I was riding only on Fire Roads and a few easy Green & Blue fitness/cardio trails with berms. The forest terrain is pan flat with firm dirt roads, a few roots and very little mud. The total ascent was about 1150 feet (350m) for the two days. I ran the bike down to 1% of battery and used only Eco for the whole time so that I could put a small marker in my memory as to what the bike can do range-wise. I did not have a range extender and I used the default motor settings although the bike was running 2.4 tyres rather than the standard 2.5's. In total, the 580 battery lasted a very respectable 71 miles (114km) over the two days, which I thought was pretty good and is about 15% further than I was expecting.

I have just completed a two-day range test on my Fuel+ at a nearby large forest where I was riding only on Fire Roads and a few easy Green & Blue fitness/cardio trails with berms. The forest terrain is pan flat with firm dirt roads, a few roots and very little mud. The total ascent was about 1150 feet (350m) for the two days. I ran the bike down to 1% of battery and used only Eco for the whole time so that I could put a small marker in my memory as to what the bike can do range-wise. I did not have a range extender and I used the default motor settings although the bike was running 2.4 tyres rather than the standard 2.5's. In total, the 580 battery lasted a very respectable 71 miles (114km) over the two days, which I thought was pretty good and is about 15% further than I was expecting.

TrekFuel + LX. I rode on eco and mid settings and on the factory standard setting. With 9% remaining over 1478hm (4.852 feet) Enduro Trails and Technically up (not extremely) Coil replace for a RS RC2 Trunnion / fox 38 front . Weight 21.2g with Crankbrothers DH . alloy bar . Size M

 

[visionone]

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This is what I purchased. It was the less expensive option and because of that it does not relay accurate information to the display. I personally don't need to know my current speed at all times. The previous derestrictor on my Specialized worked the same way. I am in the U.S. and I could not find an establishment that manufactured these devices here.​

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SpeedFun Furious Evo easy+ for TQ HPR50 and TQ HPR60​

This tuning kit is compatible with TQ HPR50 and HPR60 motors regardless of the display/handlebar control installed on the e-bike. Does not show real speed data on the display / app

My friend also has levo sl and his install was simple.
The speed box install is very similarto yours , but it shows acurate speed I think.
Try looking into mechanical version from Speedi. It's cheaper and somewhat easier to install and remove.

SPEEDi - E-Bike Speed Limit Increaser for Trek

SPEEDi is a mechanical speed limit increaser for your Trek E-Bike. Designed, tested and precision engineered in New Zealand, the SPEEDi will delimit your E-Bike without messing with your bikes computer. Easy to install and remove.

nlscomponents.com

 

[wtsheff]

My friend also has levo sl and his install was simple.
The speed box install is very similarto yours , but it shows acurate speed I think.
Try looking into mechanical version from Speedi. It's cheaper and somewhat easier to install and remove.

SPEEDi - E-Bike Speed Limit Increaser for Trek

SPEEDi is a mechanical speed limit increaser for your Trek E-Bike. Designed, tested and precision engineered in New Zealand, the SPEEDi will delimit your E-Bike without messing with your bikes computer. Easy to install and remove.

nlscomponents.com

Thanks, I will definitely look into this option.

 

[tickle]

TrekFuel + LX. I rode on eco and mid settings and on the factory standard setting. With 9% remaining over 1478hm (4.852 feet) Enduro Trails and Technically up (not extremely) Coil replace for a RS RC2 Trunnion / fox 38 front . Weight 21.2g with Crankbrothers DH . alloy bar . Size M

I was thinking that if I used the mid setting say 75-80% of the time and eco the rest I could get close to 50 miles and 5k vert(ft), tune it down a little from stock settings. I would buy the MX XT version and setup with some nice wheels like Reserve, mostly trail duty sub 45lbs I'm thinking.

 

[Keef]

I have had my new Trek Fuel+ EX 9.8XT (my first e-bike) for just over a week and have gotten 3 good rides on it. Mix of singletrack, dirt roads and pavement with quite a bit of climbing & descending. So far I love the bike, especially the quiet motor and the great suspension. I have never had this much travel on an one of my bikes before.

I like the fact that the screen shows my power output separately from the motor output. I have not seen this on any other e-bike. I wonder if this is unique to TQ. Does anyone know how accurate the human power meter is? Is there a way to calibrate it?

 

[Free54]

I was thinking that if I used the mid setting say 75-80% of the time and eco the rest I could get close to 50 miles and 5k vert(ft), tune it down a little from stock settings. I would buy the MX XT version and setup with some nice wheels like Reserve, mostly trail duty sub 45lbs I'm thinking.

With a Fox 38 and a set of 1850-gram wheels, you won't reach 45 lbs, so you'll have to install a Lyrik Ultimate. Airshock is 450 grams lighter than the coil. Lyrik &350gram lighter than a Fox 38

 

[nickf]

I've been riding my 2022 Trek Rail for the last three years and modifying it along the way to the point where I think it rides really well. But the release of the new Bosch Gen 5 motor and the launch of a whole bunch of great new bikes from various brands has led to me to test ride a few new full fat and one SL bikes over the last year or so to see if maybe I might be missing out on something even better (Santa Cruz Vala, Heckler SL, Mondraker Crafty, Amflow, Moustache,...). Yeah they were all fantastic bikes, and the Gen 5 and Avinox motors deliver impressive performance. But did any of them genuinely merit shelling out a shed load of more cash to be worth moving on from my trusty Rail? I personally felt than none of them rode so much better or that the new motor performances gave me more enjoyment than I can achieve with my old 85Nm Gen 4 Bosch. Of course, YMMV.

Then this weekend I test rode the Trek Fuel+ MX for 70km and 1800m+ over the two days.

I was hoping this experience would finally satisfy my curiosity with the mid power motor options, and I could return the test bike to the shop knowing that these motors (or at least the TQ60) could not give me enough assistance for my 67 year old legs to get me up my local steep, rocky and often very technical climbs.

The result.... I was absolutely blown away by this bike!

The motor is 99% totally silent and it was a real joy to hear nothing but the crunch of my tyres over the ground and, although I rode at a slower pace than with the Rail, the ride experience was "purer" and I felt more in touch with the trail. On the Sunday ride I took it up some of our steepest local trails with some challenging technical elements, and to my great surprise the motor power was entirely sufficient except in a few of the most tricky and steep sections where I finally lost control or traction and had to get off and push it past the obstacles.

I thought I would need to constantly ride in High mode to get the support I required, but in fact I found Med mode was adequate for much of the time. The power delivery is so silent, subtle and natural that I often had to check the display to confirm that the motor was still working!

Regarding the bike itself, it is so (comparably) light and nimble that it accelerates breathtakingly fast under gravity. It handles brilliantly and is both stable when needed and playful when asked. I had an absolute blast on it over the weekend and when I returned it to the shop it only took me a few minutes to decide to buy it on the spot! (Which is something I never do!)

So, is it a "better" bike than my old Rail? I wouldn't say that, but it is a bike that gives a genuinely different but equally thrilling ride experience. Maybe not quite as capable in the extremes, so I might still choose the Rail for enduro rides, but it is ideal for a less aggressive day out when the purity and pleasure of the ride is more important than the speed and adrenaline rush (although I got that too!).

I was so impressed with this bike and this motor system that I wanted to share my experience here so that anyone else who is "SL curious" but wonders if they could live without full fat power might be tempted to give it a try.

I can't wait to get back out and ride it some more!

 

[Free54]

I've been riding my 2022 Trek Rail for the last three years and modifying it along the way to the point where I think it rides really well. But the release of the new Bosch Gen 5 motor and the launch of a whole bunch of great new bikes from various brands has led to me to test ride a few new full fat and one SL bikes over the last year or so to see if maybe I might be missing out on something even better (Santa Cruz Vala, Heckler SL, Mondraker Crafty, Amflow, Moustache,...). Yeah they were all fantastic bikes, and the Gen 5 and Avinox motors deliver impressive performance. But did any of them genuinely merit shelling out a shed load of more cash to be worth moving on from my trusty Rail? I personally felt than none of them rode so much better or that the new motor performances gave me more enjoyment than I can achieve with my old 85Nm Gen 4 Bosch. Of course, YMMV.

Then this weekend I test rode the Trek Fuel+ MX for 70km and 1800m+ over the two days.

I was hoping this experience would finally satisfy my curiosity with the mid power motor options, and I could return the test bike to the shop knowing that these motors (or at least the TQ60) could not give me enough assistance for my 67 year old legs to get me up my local steep, rocky and often very technical climbs.

The result.... I was absolutely blown away by this bike!

The motor is 99% totally silent and it was a real joy to hear nothing but the crunch of my tyres over the ground and, although I rode at a slower pace than with the Rail, the ride experience was "purer" and I felt more in touch with the trail. On the Sunday ride I took it up some of our steepest local trails with some challenging technical elements, and to my great surprise the motor power was entirely sufficient except in a few of the most tricky and steep sections where I finally lost control or traction and had to get off and push it past the obstacles.

I thought I would need to constantly ride in High mode to get the support I required, but in fact I found Med mode was adequate for much of the time. The power delivery is so silent, subtle and natural that I often had to check the display to confirm that the motor was still working!

Regarding the bike itself, it is so (comparably) light and nimble that it accelerates breathtakingly fast under gravity. It handles brilliantly and is both stable when needed and playful when asked. I had an absolute blast on it over the weekend and when I returned it to the shop it only took me a few minutes to decide to buy it on the spot! (Which is something I never do!)

So, is it a "better" bike than my old Rail? I wouldn't say that, but it is a bike that gives a genuinely different but equally thrilling ride experience. Maybe not quite as capable in the extremes, so I might still choose the Rail for enduro rides, but it is ideal for a less aggressive day out when the purity and pleasure of the ride is more important than the speed and adrenaline rush (although I got that too!).

I was so impressed with this bike and this motor system that I wanted to share my experience here so that anyone else who is "SL curious" but wonders if they could live without full fat power might be tempted to give it a try.

I can't wait to get back out and ride it some more!

I am 70 and share the same experience as you, so for trail riding and light enduro I have the Fuel+. The Rail gen 5 for the really steep stuff.

 

[Rockhopper70]

I've been riding my 2022 Trek Rail for the last three years and modifying it along the way to the point where I think it rides really well. But the release of the new Bosch Gen 5 motor and the launch of a whole bunch of great new bikes from various brands has led to me to test ride a few new full fat and one SL bikes over the last year or so to see if maybe I might be missing out on something even better (Santa Cruz Vala, Heckler SL, Mondraker Crafty, Amflow, Moustache,...). Yeah they were all fantastic bikes, and the Gen 5 and Avinox motors deliver impressive performance. But did any of them genuinely merit shelling out a shed load of more cash to be worth moving on from my trusty Rail? I personally felt than none of them rode so much better or that the new motor performances gave me more enjoyment than I can achieve with my old 85Nm Gen 4 Bosch. Of course, YMMV.

Then this weekend I test rode the Trek Fuel+ MX for 70km and 1800m+ over the two days.

I was hoping this experience would finally satisfy my curiosity with the mid power motor options, and I could return the test bike to the shop knowing that these motors (or at least the TQ60) could not give me enough assistance for my 67 year old legs to get me up my local steep, rocky and often very technical climbs.

The result.... I was absolutely blown away by this bike!

The motor is 99% totally silent and it was a real joy to hear nothing but the crunch of my tyres over the ground and, although I rode at a slower pace than with the Rail, the ride experience was "purer" and I felt more in touch with the trail. On the Sunday ride I took it up some of our steepest local trails with some challenging technical elements, and to my great surprise the motor power was entirely sufficient except in a few of the most tricky and steep sections where I finally lost control or traction and had to get off and push it past the obstacles.

I thought I would need to constantly ride in High mode to get the support I required, but in fact I found Med mode was adequate for much of the time. The power delivery is so silent, subtle and natural that I often had to check the display to confirm that the motor was still working!

Regarding the bike itself, it is so (comparably) light and nimble that it accelerates breathtakingly fast under gravity. It handles brilliantly and is both stable when needed and playful when asked. I had an absolute blast on it over the weekend and when I returned it to the shop it only took me a few minutes to decide to buy it on the spot! (Which is something I never do!)

So, is it a "better" bike than my old Rail? I wouldn't say that, but it is a bike that gives a genuinely different but equally thrilling ride experience. Maybe not quite as capable in the extremes, so I might still choose the Rail for enduro rides, but it is ideal for a less aggressive day out when the purity and pleasure of the ride is more important than the speed and adrenaline rush (although I got that too!).

I was so impressed with this bike and this motor system that I wanted to share my experience here so that anyone else who is "SL curious" but wonders if they could live without full fat power might be tempted to give it a try.

I can't wait to get back out and ride it some more!

Honestly, what a great read. I think you’ve nailed my sentiments also, it’s not all about the power. Had I not bought a very discounted SL Canyon, the new trek was on my very short, short list. It’s looks like a proper do it all bike.

 

[JP-NZ]

Yeah they were all fantastic bikes, and the Gen 5 and Avinox motors deliver impressive performance. But did any of them genuinely merit shelling out a shed load of more cash to be worth moving on from my trusty Rail? I personally felt than none of them rode so much better or that the new motor performances gave me more enjoyment than I can achieve with my old 85Nm Gen 4 Bosch. Of course, YMMV.

I'm in the same boat I also own a 2022 Rail and came to the conclusion earlier this year that the newer bikes are great but the Rail still delivers 99% of the fun without shelling out even more money on a newer yet similar bike(s).

Regarding the bike itself, it is so (comparably) light and nimble that it accelerates breathtakingly fast under gravity. It handles brilliantly and is both stable when needed and playful when asked. I had an absolute blast on it over the weekend and when I returned it to the shop it only took me a few minutes to decide to buy it on the spot! (Which is something I never do!)

So, is it a "better" bike than my old Rail? I wouldn't say that, but it is a bike that gives a genuinely different but equally thrilling ride experience. Maybe not quite as capable in the extremes, so I might still choose the Rail for enduro rides, but it is ideal for a less aggressive day out when the purity and pleasure of the ride is more important than the speed and adrenaline rush (although I got that too!).

I also own a Fuel Ex-e (previous gen with HPR50) and also agree with the statement. Its a brilliant bike for XC Singletrack and shorter rides, its just outgunned everywhere on my local trails by the Rail.

 

[nickf]

I also own a Fuel Ex-e (previous gen with HPR50) and also agree with the statement. Its a brilliant bike for XC Singletrack and shorter rides, its just outgunned everywhere on my local trails by the Rail.

The original Fuel Exe looked like a great bike but, just like the new Specialized Levo SL, it never really hit the spot for me because of the small battery. So I can understand why you use it for shorter rides. But the 580W battery in the new Fuel+ is a game changer and allows genuinely similar autonomy to the typical full fat bikes. I'm even considering buying the range extender and taking it away on some big mountain all day rides. I reckon it would cope!

 

[JP-NZ]

The original Fuel Exe looked like a great bike but, just like the new Specialized Levo SL, it never really hit the spot for me because of the small battery. So I can understand why you use it for shorter rides. But the 580W battery in the new Fuel+ is a game changer and allows genuinely similar autonomy to the typical full fat bikes. I'm even considering buying the range extender and taking it away on some big mountain all day rides. I reckon it would cope!

I actually have a 2nd 360wh currently so can swap trailside in around 5 mins. Ive been off the bike for a while so until my fitness builds back up the Rail is infinitely easier on the steep climbs.

Sadly we don't have the Fuel+ in NZ and not likely to for decent while.

 

[nickf]

I actually have a 2nd 360wh currently so can swap trailside in around 5 mins. Ive been off the bike for a while so until my fitness builds back up the Rail is infinitely easier on the steep climbs.

Sadly we don't have the Fuel+ in NZ and not likely to for decent while.

It's great to have both . Especially because they each offer a different but equally fun ride experience.

 

[Noclutch]

Greta thread guys! This is from a serious Fuel + shopper.

One question I have, and maybe my reading comprehension is lacking, but is the small EX capable of, and supported in, running 29 rear with a linkage (and wheel, duh) change?

Secondly, I'm wondering why a 38/160 Fox factory fork isn't in the customization offerings in the US? They do offer 38/170 for the MX, but no 38 for the EX at all, and where 170 might be leggy.