Forbidden Druid - Avinox Powered

I was 6' 2" and on a large Santa Cruz nomad. My LBS was adamant that I'd be a S4. I'm closer to 6'1" these days with long arms. We ahmed and ahhed around the S3 and after the Loam Wolf review where he reckons he's 6'1" and the S3 was fine I switched to the smaller one. As he stated, you can make a smaller size feel bigger but it's tough making a larger size feel smaller. I hate being between sizes.
Out of interest, all of you that now have your bikes, how tall are you and what size do you have?
First impressions regarding your sizing?
I have an XL Nomad and it feels perfect for me - 180mm fork gives it a roughly 492mm reach. 467mm is a massive difference. I’ve never owned a big less than 480mm reach. I too read that Loam Wolf article, it’s hard to invest that kind of money on the word of one (slightly shorter) reviewer.
 
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I'm 5.7 and also between sizes. Elected to go s2 at 447 reach. Pleased I did. Feels perfect and I think the s1 reach would cramped in certain situations. My knees get very close to the bars as is High stack combined with low bb certainly gets you upright.
 
I'm 5.7 and also between sizes. Elected to go s2 at 447 reach. Pleased I did. Feels perfect and I think the s1 reach would cramped in certain situations. My knees get very close to the bars as is High stack combined with low bb certainly gets you upright.
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That’s useful, thanks
 
 
I was going to put my wheelset on. Mm ultra soft radial up front and michelin ewlld rear but stock tyres felt pretty good so I will go wear them out I think
 
I'd argue dirty is better!!!
How does she ride, can you share initial thoughts?
First impressions after a single track ride are:
- love the riding position, upright is waaaaay more comfy for my old man lower back pain.
- bike feels heavy, but moves around pretty easily still. I actually find the extra weight down low good on chundery downs, more planted. This made me happy as I was worried about the weight!
- I’m definitely not one for air, but it gets up over everything I can ride easily. And the ability to throw in a pedal stroke or two and get a big speed boost is killer.
- I did not like the feel of the Zeb select+ at RS’ recommended setting, really harsh off the top. I’ve dropped the pressure quite a bit to try find the opposite end. It’s danm stiff though!
- LOVED the Vivid air. Instantly felt good. TBF I’m coming from a Druid V1 with 130 travel, so the extra travel prob had something to do with it.
- I detuned ‘Trail’ to settings attached and it was plenty grunty. I towed my son around uphills for an hour then did a few runs without him and did 25km with 49% battery.
- stoked overall! Can’t wait to get out again and tweak the suspension.
- (edit) forgot about the T-Type AXS! God damn smooth shift is incredible! I commute on an e-bike with a Rolhoff and have got used to dumping gears, it is so handy on the Druid and feels like magic hearing the motor spin up and gears change.
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I was going to put my wheelset on. Mm ultra soft radial up front and michelin ewlld rear but stock tyres felt pretty good so I will go wear them out I think
The maxxis did feel pretty sticky. I might chuck them on when the Contis die. Which given the speed this thing goes on gravel, could be quick!
 
Naaa, don't believe it 😂
 
Naaa, don't believe it 😂
Yeah, it's not strictly true.

Bikes have arrived in all markets but not every bike that has been ordered has. Most of them arn't going to get fulfilled til next year now. Mines first batch so current ETA is first half of October at the moment.
 
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Just completed first battery draining ride in Vegas today. All j can say is anyone waiting for their bike to arrive stag patient I think is well worth the wait. They ting is a weapon. Still a few tweaks required and the mavens leg me down badly. They were great until the bleed failed. I believe it's a common problem that can be solved and if it is they will be awesome everything else was just smile inducing. The Avinox motor software system is everything they say it is. Unlimited power good range and power delivery is smooth as silk. Very very impressive. Can anyone see my smile. Now I have to wait till Tuesday to ride again. Rotorua trails are primo at the moment. I was going to put my other wheelset on but decided to give these maxis a go and they surprised me with how well they went. I still think I will go back to my mm radial on the front but not a whole lot in it
 
Just completed first battery draining ride in Vegas today. All j can say is anyone waiting for their bike to arrive stag patient I think is well worth the wait. They ting is a weapon. Still a few tweaks required and the mavens leg me down badly. They were great until the bleed failed. I believe it's a common problem that can be solved and if it is they will be awesome everything else was just smile inducing. The Avinox motor software system is everything they say it is. Unlimited power good range and power delivery is smooth as silk. Very very impressive. Can anyone see my smile. Now I have to wait till Tuesday to ride again. Rotorua trails are primo at the moment. I was going to put my other wheelset on but decided to give these maxis a go and they surprised me with how well they went. I still think I will go back to my mm radial on the front but not a whole lot in it
Disappointing about the mavens. Did they just lose power ?
 
Disappointing about the mavens. Did they just lose power ?
No. Power and modulation is great but air in the system from new seems to be an issue. 3 guys I know on sworks each had to do 2 or 3 bleeds before they settled an then were great. My rear brake was not even pumping up anymore. Lever was pulling all the way in. They were impeccable for the first hour but by the time I finished they were very dangerous. Once sorted I think they will be very good. The rest of the bike worked sweet as. It just wants to go. If I sound excited that's because I am
 
I have an XL Nomad and it feels perfect for me - 180mm fork gives it a roughly 492mm reach. 467mm is a massive difference. I’ve never owned a big less than 480mm reach. I too read that Loam Wolf article, it’s hard to invest that kind of money on the word of one (slightly shorter) reviewer.
Out of interest, how tall are you? Will give me an idea given I'm running the L Nomad. Cheers.... still waiting!
 
Out of interest, how tall are you? Will give me an idea given I'm running the L Nomad. Cheers.... still waiting!
I am 5.7 I am in-between an s1 and an s2. Opted for an s2 and really pleased I did. It feels perfect at 447 reach. My current bike is 450 reach but this feels shorter but in context my current bike is was a cannondale moterra medium with a 200 mm boxxer up front and rear linkage change to allow 185 mm travel. Also reconfigured to mullet so it was fairly high stack but not quite as high as the new Druid
 
No. Power and modulation is great but air in the system from new seems to be an issue. 3 guys I know on sworks each had to do 2 or 3 bleeds before they settled an then were great. My rear brake was not even pumping up anymore. Lever was pulling all the way in. They were impeccable for the first hour but by the time I finished they were very dangerous. Once sorted I think they will be very good. The rest of the bike worked sweet as. It just wants to go. If I sound excited that's because I am
That's dissapointing. Should we get the shop to pre-bleed before riding then?? PITA...:cautious:
 
That's dissapointing. Should we get the shop to pre-bleed before riding then?? PITA...:cautious:
I think that's a good Idea. There is a documented piston massage routine that should help but so far I have yet to speak to a new maven rider who hasn't had issues. Now I will probably get swamped with people saying theirs are perfect haha. Hopefully when I get mine back I can report more favorably. They felt really really good for that first hour
 
I think that's a good Idea. There is a documented piston massage routine that should help but so far I have yet to speak to a new maven rider who hasn't had issues. Now I will probably get swamped with people saying theirs are perfect haha. Hopefully when I get mine back I can report more favorably. They felt really really good for that first hour
Found this on the tube.... is this what you mean?? Do we still need to bleed them before?

 
Yes perfect that is exactly what's needed. I tried to get away without all that faffing but now wish I had got that done first. I suggest you all should do that first
 
I think that's a good Idea. There is a documented piston massage routine that should help but so far I have yet to speak to a new maven rider who hasn't had issues. Now I will probably get swamped with people saying theirs are perfect haha. Hopefully when I get mine back I can report more favorably. They felt really really good for that first hour
I picked up mine (rather than getting it built at the shop) and the brake hoses and housing for the dropper are crazy long. See if they shorten them for ya. I’ll be doing mine as soon as the oil & barb/olive arrives…

Thankfully, 3 rides in and my Mavens are working sweet. I’m stoked with them.
 
you don’t need to do any of that crap with an intend brake, lol
Yip but unfortunately that is not what the bike came with so will just have to do what ever is required to make them better😁 I am pretty confident it is an easy albeit unnecessary fix but the outcome should be an awesome performing set of binders.
 
a bleed doesn’t change the heavy lever pull needed
I have read all the hype about heavy lever pull but for me at least that was a total non event no issue at all and I wish I hadn't brought up the whole bleed thing it's only distracting from how good this bike actually rode. Absolute weapon and I think that anyone who has one coming should be full on excited
 
I tested out the new Levo and the biggest thing I was impressed with was the mavens 😆

Does anyone have this in the US yet and can confirm if the class 3 mode shipped with this bike? I think it will be handy for my ride to the trails because everything is 4-5 miles one way unless I drive
 
I tested out the new Levo and the biggest thing I was impressed with was the mavens 😆

Does anyone have this in the US yet and can confirm if the class 3 mode shipped with this bike? I think it will be handy for my ride to the trails because everything is 4-5 miles one way unless I drive
I'm certain we will have class 3 when activated in the US.
 
I have read all the hype about heavy lever pull but for me at least that was a total non event no issue at all and I wish I hadn't brought up the whole bleed thing it's only distracting from how good this bike actually rode. Absolute weapon and I think that anyone who has one coming should be full on excited
then never try an intend brake, it’s gonna ruin everything else for you
 
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