Dji avinox- Amflow - Discussion

Dropped the motor, and replaced rear hose, easy peasy. Still would be much better it it was true tube-in-tube, but that would definitely raise the oveall cost, imo.
 
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Hola a todos. En el modelo Pro, el botón de configuración está en la posición A, mientras que el sitio web de SRAM para este modelo de bicicleta dice que debería estar en la posición B. ¿Alguien sabe por qué ocurre esto y dónde podría estar el error?

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Ok, folks, I just ordered the 21 slot motor magnet disc from Loomenade, where I got the bike. Has anyone put a decent amount of time on this aftermarket magnet? I prefer extremely chunky, janky, rooty technical climbs, so the thought that the motor becomes less sensitive (responsive?) is giving me second thoughts on running it.
thanks!
 
Ok, folks, I just ordered the 21 slot motor magnet disc from Loomenade, where I got the bike. Has anyone put a decent amount of time on this aftermarket magnet? I prefer extremely chunky, janky, rooty technical climbs, so the thought that the motor becomes less sensitive (responsive?) is giving me second thoughts on running it.
thanks!

Circumference of a 29er is 2.3 metres. So with the original 42 slot ring, you got a speed reference pulse every 55mm (About 2 inches). Fitting a 21 slot means you get a pulse every 4 inches. So if the tire slips. You'll get a maximum 4 inches of slip before the motor detects it and reduces torque.

It would be my opinion, you would notice this reduced sensitivity, and it would reduce the bikes ability to climb loose surfaces.
 
So, total weight with all of the Enduro goodies is ~49 pounds. I have two wheelsets, the lighter one (carbon rims, 240s, Dd and EXO+ tires) which knocks off about two pounds.
Pretty damn excellent, coming off of a 57-59 pound full power Rocky Powerplay.
 
So, total weight with all of the Enduro goodies is ~49 pounds. I have two wheelsets, the lighter one (carbon rims, 240s, Dd and EXO+ tires) which knocks off about two pounds.
Pretty damn excellent, coming off of a 57-59 pound full power Rocky Powerplay.
Awe, so now we have some insight into the Specialized Levo Gen 4. In order to have a solid frame that can hold up to a 180mm fork, have dialed in Geo and suspension design, the penalty is 4-5 pounds. Rob rode the Amflow and noted the frame flex and that it's a trail bike, not enduro rig. Not to justify a Specialized price but if Amflow build a burlier frame, 38 fork, gave us cutting edge suspension design, plus a removable battery (causing extra weight) then would it be conceivable that the Amflow would be a 50+ pound bike too??
 
total weight
I added 2 shredda rears and two 2.3mm 220 rotors, which added some weight to my pro. Did not notice it slowing me down any ;) will probably swap out the 2.3's for 2mm as they are quite a bit lighter
 
would it be conceivable
They wont target that design. The goal was a light fast trail bike, since most people do not have the skill to punish an enduro. And the frame flex is not really noticeable even through some pretty knarly trails. Not sure If Rob tried the early model with 2025 fox suspension, but the 2026 suspension is quite a bit stiffer when needed. We have over a thousand members in our Nor Cal E trail riders group on FB and 4 or 5 have the Sworks and only a few have Amflow. But no one on a Specialized is setting any records in the city where Specialized does its research and development [auburn] with the new Levos. The older generation hold many records with Norm. Amflow guys are are crushing it.
 
They wont target that design. The goal was a light fast trail bike, since most people do not have the skill to punish an enduro. And the frame flex is not really noticeable even through some pretty knarly trails. Not sure If Rob tried the early model with 2025 fox suspension, but the 2026 suspension is quite a bit stiffer when needed. We have over a thousand members in our Nor Cal E trail riders group on FB and 4 or 5 have the Sworks and only a few have Amflow. But no one on a Specialized is setting any records in the city where Specialized does its research and development [auburn] with the new Levos. The older generation hold many records with Norm. Amflow guys are are crushing it.
Don't get me wrong, just interesting as the talk has been about weight. Yes, Amflow might be crushing it, but that's based upon pure speed, not total quality of the ride, especially if your a bigger guy hitting big stuff. My point is simply that Specialized has a really great bike in the Gen 4, but have making some marketing mistakes, and definitely some pricing mistakes. (man did you guys blow it on this!!) Also, the knocking of the motor is not present in the Levo. In fact Rob on his last build complained about the rattle of the Crestline Motor, and is trying to pad and tape up his Unno bike to avoid the rattle. It drove me nuts on the Shimano motors. So it will be interesting what Specialized does with their next Gen Levo SL. Here in the SF Bay Area, near home of Specialized, there are rumors of a really nice next Gen SL coming and it's going to be really awesome, minus the Specialized pricing.
 
but that's based upon pure speed, not total quality of the ride,
I respectfully disagree. The bike is a quality act through and through It makes my Canyon look like dog meat.

I do high miles sand high amounts of elevation climbing, you have as good a trail geometry as it gets, you have high tier suspension, you have great cable management, so with all that power and suspension you can literally fly on this bike.

The rode is as quality as it gets, maybe the Gen 4 levo has the 10 for ride, but this is a 9 in comparison, so it really lacks no quality. Its far more than just a fast motor.

near home of Specialized,
I live and ride on the trails they do their research on, no gen 4 holds a single KOM. Gen 3s do and only on trails the Amflow has not hit yet.
if your a bigger guy hitting big stuff
Im only 190lbs and big stuff is subjective. But it can do anything the gen 4 Sworks can. Its also a trail bike.

the rattle of the Crestline Motor
Been addressed already on Amflow

Shimano motors

My EP801 has been dead silent, but reliability has been utter garbge. When the bike runs it flys Spectral CF8 but head set creaks and motor shuts ff while riding. 3 motors in 14 months, 2 batteries, 4 Roaensberger cables. But thats 6000 miles and 800,000 feet of climbing.
Here in the SF Bay Area,
Come up to Auburn, Salmon Falls, Nevada city, Hidden Falls, and ill show you around. Our group is in your area too Nor Cal E trail riders rides your trails, I just ride out of my yard so I dont get to the bay area. One of our guys got a speeding ticket from strava down there so use caution
 
Here in the SF Bay Area, near home of Specialized, there are rumors of a really nice next Gen SL coming and it's going to be really awesome, minus the Specialized pricing.
I think I'm all out of enthiusiasm for any specializd hype, they had the levo gen3 and decided for look and weight to go in the direction of a surron rather than an mtb.

Who knows, maybe it was the plan all along to create a bigger gap for the SL
 
I think I'm all out of enthiusiasm for any specializd hype, they had the levo gen3 and decided for look and weight to go in the direction of a surron rather than an mtb.

Who knows, maybe it was the plan all along to create a bigger gap for the SL
In a perfect world you can own a Gen 4 Levo and a Base Amflow tricked out, and just ride 7 days a week. It's would go 180 on the Levo and get the new Cascade link and extend it to 160 rear travel and you have a endure brawler, then take the amflow to the lightest weight possible, and build it as a trail demon., then work your 4 days at your dental practice, lol. Nice and well made points all!
 
"speeding ticket from strava" so what's that all about
Bay area Ca, karens complained about him, he was a retired chp who does not ride fast. So the ranger went to parking lot and looked up his lic plate, it was the only truck there, then looked up his strava profile, and saw that his average speed was higher than the park laws. And sent him a ticket for $695. No speed was posted or signs saying it was enforced, he should be able to fight it. Regardless ive seen the ticket myself.
 
ride 7 days a week
I tried lol You can only do that for a about a year and a half before it catches up with you. Even 5 days a week is tough with a few recovery rides thrown in with 3 fast rides. We have a guy here that is 6,834 miles for the year so far, he lost a ton of weight, but its catching up with him and he is slowing down.
 
Bay area Ca, karens complained about him, he was a retired chp who does not ride fast. So the ranger went to parking lot and looked up his lic plate, it was the only truck there, then looked up his strava profile, and saw that his average speed was higher than the park laws. And sent him a ticket for $695. No speed was posted or signs saying it was enforced, he should be able to fight it. Regardless ive seen the ticket myself.
That is a shame and must have been quite a shock for the rider. I am currently in Switzerland, the trails here do not from my experience distinguish between Mtb and eMtb, if you are familiar with the Swiss culture they are very considerate and respect rules and laws. it seems to be a self governing system with very respectful society and currently does not need trail oversight from what I have experienced which is refreshing.

When I was in the Ketchum area of Idaho, it was rather perplexing for me to wrap my head around riding an area where Dirt bike, horses and Mtb were allowed but not eMtb. Had a blast on the single track with my dirt bike and Mbt so it was not a problem.

In regards to "complained about him" do you think that there could be a uniqueness to this individual ...
 
do you think that there could be a uniqueness to this individual ...
He was not to bright, for a retired chp. We tried to help and he just argued. He is not a fast rider. Just pissed off a karen which in bay area is not hard to do.

very respectful society and currently does not need trail oversight
We take care of our trails better than the officials. Was funny this afternoon I was talking to one of our local rangers telling him im going to ride through a no bike trail at speed, he was like heck ya enjoy! 100% opposite of the bay area folks. Most of us up in Northern Ca are very respectful of hikers and runners and horses and manual riders. 99% of the time its just you against the trail. Today I did 17 fast miles and did not see another soul.
 
He was not to bright, for a retired chp. We tried to help and he just argued. He is not a fast rider. Just pissed off a karen which in bay area is not hard to do.


We take care of our trails better than the officials. Was funny this afternoon I was talking to one of our local rangers telling him im going to ride through a no bike trail at speed, he was like heck ya enjoy! 100% opposite of the bay area folks. Most of us up in Northern Ca are very respectful of hikers and runners and horses and manual riders. 99% of the time its just you against the trail. Today I did 17 fast miles and did not see another soul.
Ah yes, dim-whitteness... so when you mention trail at speed I get it totally. I came from open desert racing and it is my passion. In another universe, it is Interesting how much you experience at a lower speed, I now do bike camping and other sports at a glacial momentum :) One of which is riding with our grand kids going up technical sections in a popular area of Anchorage AK. Mountain biking is so engaging and fun, happy, smiles for children. I notice that Mtb's will wait for us to clear a tight section, eMtb not so much which is intimidating and seems rather daft. I hope that our sport develops the correct ethos for all that are concerned and the future of our sport.
 
Hey people... I just ordered a Velduro frameset with DJI.
Did anyones DJI failed up until now? How is the customer support and service procedure done in EU?
 
That is a shame and must have been quite a shock for the rider. I am currently in Switzerland, the trails here do not from my experience distinguish between Mtb and eMtb, if you are familiar with the Swiss culture they are very considerate and respect rules and laws. it seems to be a self governing system with very respectful society and currently does not need trail oversight from what I have experienced which is refreshing.

When I was in the Ketchum area of Idaho, it was rather perplexing for me to wrap my head around riding an area where Dirt bike, horses and Mtb were allowed but not eMtb. Had a blast on the single track with my dirt bike and Mbt so it was not a problem.

In regards to "complained about him" do you think that there could be a uniqueness to this individual ...
Generally, If Dirt Bikes are allowed, MTB’s are allowed, almost without exception. However, it is specific to each individual trail, and not within a network, or general area. (I have been involved in trail building and advocacy near Sun Valley for almost three decades).
It sounds as if there might have been some misinterpretation of the posted regulations.
 
So I just switched to mullet, and after I got a whole lot of rattling from the drivetrain area (as in rear derailur etc) during decending. Switched from Newmen SL.A 30 to DT Swiss EX 1700, both 36t engagment. Has anyone experienced anything similar? All bolts seem tight, dont think derailur is bent and shifting is mostly okay, except one gear for some reason.
 
Hi all, how waterproof is the Amflow? Was wondering whether or not it’s safe to hose it down to clean?
 
Hi all, how waterproof is the Amflow? Was wondering whether or not it’s safe to hose it down to clean?


I've just completed a week riding in the Lake District where I have never seen so much rain fall in such a short period of time in my life. The bike required a full pressure wash after each ride. And it's absolutely fine!
 
a full pressure wash
I would never discuss this in public, when people try and get a warranty claim, they are asked how they wash their bikes. It does cause electrical issues. I had issues with a EP801 because I kept my bike clean. Use a hose on slow if you have to get mud off. I take chain off to pressure wash
 
I would never discuss this in public, when people try and get a warranty claim, they are asked how they wash their bikes. It does cause electrical issues. I had issues with a EP801 because I kept my bike clean. Use a hose on slow if you have to get mud off. I take chain off to pressure wash

I think it depends on technique.

When I say I pressure wash, I am washing the bike from a distance of 5-6 feet as to not blast water into bearings or anywhere it shouldn't be. I also don't directly spray the motor or screen. I also have the nozzle on more of a spray setting rather than a jet.

You absolutely don't want to be using a high powered washer up close - you'll either blast all the grease and lube out of your pivots, chain and bearings, or - as you rightly said - will force water into the motor somewhere.
 
I respectfully disagree. The bike is a quality act through and through It makes my Canyon look like dog meat.

I do high miles sand high amounts of elevation climbing, you have as good a trail geometry as it gets, you have high tier suspension, you have great cable management, so with all that power and suspension you can literally fly on this bike.

The rode is as quality as it gets, maybe the Gen 4 levo has the 10 for ride, but this is a 9 in comparison, so it really lacks no quality. Its far more than just a fast motor.


I live and ride on the trails they do their research on, no gen 4 holds a single KOM. Gen 3s do and only on trails the Amflow has not hit yet.

Im only 190lbs and big stuff is subjective. But it can do anything the gen 4 Sworks can. Its also a trail bike.


Been addressed already on Amflow



My EP801 has been dead silent, but reliability has been utter garbge. When the bike runs it flys Spectral CF8 but head set creaks and motor shuts ff while riding. 3 motors in 14 months, 2 batteries, 4 Roaensberger cables. But thats 6000 miles and 800,000 feet of climbing.

Come up to Auburn, Salmon Falls, Nevada city, Hidden Falls, and ill show you around. Our group is in your area too Nor Cal E trail riders rides your trails, I just ride out of my yard so I dont get to the bay area. One of our guys got a speeding ticket from strava down there so use caution

I've only demo'd one ebike so I have zero personal experience with the Amflow. I've never even seen one in person but to @westcoastmtbr comment, EVERY SINGLE REVIEW I"VE READ where multiple bikes are tested against the Amflow, the reviewers mention that the ride quality of the Amflow is not on par with the other Enduro focused bikes when the terrain gets gnarly. That doesn't mean it sucks or that a great rider can't rip on it.
 
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