(Thanks for the frame overlay MTB-MIKE.)You kept weight nice and low, Santa Cruz engineers would be proud.
The ugliest e bike in history i reckon.
Agreed, Unless you like the look of old man balls.
180/180 as the bike was originally optimized for. BB is way too high as a 160mm bike IMO
I have found 170/160 to be pretty fun .
Also liking 170/160. However, I'm on the lighter side at 150lbs.
Where's the BB height listed for 160mm?
190 ZEB Ultimate 3.1 being taken off my current Crestline and 181 outback
Yeah, geometry numbers always vary in real life because at sag things start to change. I'll assume all listed geo numbers are based on 180mm front and rear. That would mean a 20mm lower fork would also drop the BB, probably the difference you noted in your math and increase HTA about 1 degree.
As I've said before, it's the least gender-ambiguous bike out there. Makes all the other bikes look neutered by comparison
. My bike is sans the jock strap and has the grey race motor, reflecting the age of its owner 
. Interestingly, the bike doesn't seem as outrageous in person. I kid you not, when I rode to the Sea Otter Unno Mith both (arguably to most attractive EMTB out there to date) on my Sonni, folks were fondly crowding around my bike.
As I've said before, it's the least gender-ambiguous bike out there. Makes all the other bikes look neutered by comparison
I knew I’d get a reply out of you with my comment! Thank you for funny reply.
It’s got to be intentional. If your Bike is a Pole, of course you’re gonna design it with a nutsackAs I've said before, it's the least gender-ambiguous bike out there. Makes all the other bikes look neutered by comparison
Ahahahahaha. He should have design a policeman's helmet into the head tube...
That will definitely happen. You have too many cool bikes now - an apex belt drive bike and apex long-travel DGI.
I do love the look of machined aluminum. I’ve never thrown my leg over a Voima or Sonni, but would like to. Maybe if we meet up some day. I just wish we were a bit closer in height/frame size.
Aliexpress has various colored zeb decals for like $5..
I rolled with 190 zeb on the voima. And it was certainly buttery plush on the big chunk. But I found it a bit too much travel on the standard trail and jumps.
www.slikgraphics.com
$5 I would think would be low quality but I’ll check it out. Thanks.
I’ll check them out as well, thanks.
I’ve got a Secus, TruTune(yes, bizarrely it works as they say), and the 3.1 tuned for my weight and plushness I want. (Super plush) All the mods make the 190 ride more like a 180 travel(more sag). On bigger hits I have about 10mm stroke left, and I’d like to work myself up to bigger jumps. I like how the 190 really has the ability to soak up a shit landing or drop.
the next month and a half are going to go way to slow!You're point is so definitive... case closed! /s Also, who cares how they want to run thier business if it's different than you think it should be... your experience running a business is to what extent?. Better then paying out for the "big league" stuff and being stuck with a bunch of stock limiting the businesses ability to pivot.
Fair enough. My 180 zeb on the crestline matches the 180 zeb on my Claymore and if i want to go full mania on new drops and jumps i roll the DH bike out for 200mm to dial the features in before lining them up on the e and mtb,I’ve got a Secus, TruTune(yes, bizarrely it works as they say), and the 3.1 tuned for my weight and plushness I want. (Super plush) All the mods make the 190 ride more like a 180 travel(more sag). On bigger hits I have about 10mm stroke left, and I’d like to work myself up to bigger jumps. I like how the 190 really has the ability to soak up a shit landing or drop.
My MTB and eMtb are both set up with identical ZEBs, tuning being a bit different for bike weight difference. And now they’ll both be set up with rear trunnion Telum’s. Can’t wait
I think you guys are getting a bit confused between prototypes moulds and low volume production moulds.
