Levo Gen 4 Levo Gen 4 Rumours and some facts...

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There will be two versions …. Higher power for S-works and Pro and the rest get a lower powered motor. Now if it is the same motor with different software setting providing the power or different motors on the s works and pro I don’t know.
 
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No, wait, it's going to be 2WD with hub motors from Ali Express and battery cells from the old forklift they abandoned when it couldn't move under it's own power any more.
 
Doomanic said:
No, wait, it's going to be 2WD with hub motors from Ali Express and battery cells from the old forklift they abandoned when it couldn't move under it's own power any more.
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Rumour has it that they've got around the speed limit issues and massively reduced the weight by creating the first motor less emtb !

Expect to pay a premium for this technological advancement though.
 
DuncanDoughnuts said:
There will be two versions …. Higher power for S-works and Pro and the rest get a lower powered motor. Now if it is the same motor with different software setting providing the power or different motors on the s works and pro I don’t know.
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When they were developing the original Mahle version, there were two versions of the motor with different power levels - though the emtb bikes were all spec'd with the high power version of the motor.

With the delays, it's looking like they've moved away from that version, but there's no reason why they can't limit the amp draw on different models.
 
Doomanic said:
No, wait, it's going to be 2WD with hub motors from Ali Express and battery cells from the old forklift they abandoned when it couldn't move under it's own power any more.
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Hey…I have an old forklift 🧐
 
The only thing that interests me is that the new levo can charge 80% of the 700-850wh battery in 1.5 hours and the charger is half as heavy. Otherwise the levo fails for me and I'll stick with the gen3 levo. Or just switch to dji supported bikes.
 
Hey everyone (my first post!) what are your thoughts on suspension travel? Think it'll stay at 150/160?
 
etoni said:
The only thing that interests me is that the new levo can charge 80% of the 700-850wh battery in 1.5 hours and the charger is half as heavy. Otherwise the levo fails for me and I'll stick with the gen3 levo. Or just switch to dji supported bikes.
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If you listen to the podcast, they don't seem interested in doing that due to the decreased battery life. An option to fast or slow charge would be nice I guess?
 
roccobarocco said:
Aren't the bikes expensive enough? If they decide introducing in App Payments for monthly subscriptions, I will not consider a new Levo in the future anymore!
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Crazy! I heard that even the average usage time is supposed to be limited to 2 hours per week! If you want to ride more, you’ll have to unlock it via an app. However, only the SWORKS Modell should be a flat-rate model, but I wonder how much that will cost...
 
DuncanDoughnuts said:
There will be two versions …. Higher power for S-works and Pro and the rest get a lower powered motor. Now if it is the same motor with different software setting providing the power or different motors on the s works and pro I don’t know.
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Perhaps this refers to the current comp and base levos from 2025 sticking around for another while yet while the new one is released?

I think it would be a strange move to release the new levo with two different power options especially when the current SL is still around. I would really hope they are not gonna lock something premium behind some sort of paywall.
 
etoni said:
The only thing that interests me is that the new levo can charge 80% of the 700-850wh battery in 1.5 hours and the charger is half as heavy. Otherwise the levo fails for me and I'll stick with the gen3 levo. Or just switch to dji supported bikes.
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My levo would pull 160-170w on charge, my DJI pulls 470-480w. It's crazy how fast it charges
 
Fast charging would be good to have only as an option (with a press of a button on the charger or setting in the app), but fast charging the battery every charging session when most of the time you won't really need it or benefit from it, will just make the battery degrade much faster ...
 
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sluette said:
Crazy! I heard that even the average usage time is supposed to be limited to 2 hours per week! If you want to ride more, you’ll have to unlock it via an app. However, only the SWORKS Modell should be a flat-rate model, but I wonder how much that will cost...
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No, no, you can't buy the S-WORK models from now with only money. You need to be a loyal customer, you need to prove you bought all the old Levo generations brand new, and after that you can get the new S-WORK model for a measly 30 000 euro.
 
salko said:
Fast charging would be good to have only as an option (with a press of a button on the charger or setting in the app), but fast charging the battery every charging session when most of the time you won't really need it or benefit from it, will just make the battery degrade much faster ...
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Yeah, with the Avinox system you can really stress the battery if you're heavy and a bit stupid. Maybe a reason why the 600Wh battery in the velomotion test shut off. They might have cooked the cells of the testbike if it was given to multiple outlets who stressed the battery to the max for weeks plus fast charging and whatnot.
 
ckkone said:
Confirmed, comp spec will be $2k more than other brands with similar spec.
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I don’t know, the 2025 turbo Levo is an ok spec for $5500. 800 wh battery, z1 fork, ok brakes….. this will change with the import taxes but that will be the case for all the bikes.
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At $5500 for a turbo Levo, the trek rail is a dog. It will be interesting to see what the pricing for the rail + is this spring.
 
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