Agreed. I would prefer to get the base model and upgrade the parts I want to upgrade. Then again, I would also want the smaller battery as I would not want to carry around weight I would never use. All this talk about how far and fast it goes but not not much chatter about how it performs.
This link from earlier in the thread talks about the bike: Amflow PL Carbon Review - emtb-test.comAgreed. I would prefer to get the base model and upgrade the parts I want to upgrade. Then again, I would also want the smaller battery as I would not want to carry around weight I would never use. All this talk about how far and fast it goes but not not much chatter about how it performs.
I hear you. Everything I have found so far talks mostly about how impressive the motor is but if its really just a Levo SL for heavy people that want to ride up fire roads at max speed, I am not sure how popular it will be around here.
It's not really a levo SL, because the defining characteristic of that bike is the minimal power.
And 6.5 vs 11k EUR
)) and much more, waste of time to count it here...Well... other than the Amflow looking very similar to a Levo SL with a powerful motor, I would say the defining feature of the Levo SL is its weight, trail handling ability and the Specialized warranty. No doubt the Amflow will become popular in time but they will need to get the supply issues resolved and their inevitable warranty centers up and running before they become popular in Canada and the US. You may be able to GET a bike but when it breaks, repairing it yourself or shipping it back to China will be frustrating.
And 6.5 vs 11k EUR
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Don't know what's your issue, my original post was about weight and you had the need to get it further onto the price, I gave you a fair comparison on the price, and no that's not ok...If you want to talk about something, make your own post about it, not jumping into someone else's and putting them down ...and yes u said it, some things are a just waste of time...peace out.
amflow pro 20.4kg with 800Wh battery and 105Nm motor
You might have seen my recent post, but have you found a way to maintain the warranty on the bike when shipped to the U.S.? I spoke with a representative from Amflow and he informed me that if the bike is delivered by a third party to the U.S. it will void the warranty. I have been communicating with a couple Alibaba suppliers and wanted to acquire the bike in this procedure as well but I would rather not own one without a warranty.
I am lucky I am human and I ride bikes in mountains not in the lab. And in the mountains is my own personal experience waaay different then described in rhis lab test. There are real tests (done by riders in mountains) of range and max or continuous power load with completely different results. I did on Avinox about 250kms now and cant confirm any of mentioned lab results/probs. It feels more powerful then any Bosch (even its same or weaker in mentioned lab tests), power never drops down or motor never shut down (even in continuous boost mode), battery capacity never drops down suddenly etc. So those who rides in real mountains instead of lab are these lab test results useless and confusing. Just my personal experience. Iam not paid by any motor brand, just have real experience with few of them, Avinox included.
It does seem as if some people are pursuing a certain narrative against DJI.
, but think I will wait until I can get a test ride and see how the warranty & support side pans out. That and I have a Levo to sell first…
Fascinating Lab test. I'll be sure to keep it in mind when I need an EMTB to ride in a Lab ..........
Fascinating Lab test. I'll be sure to keep it in mind when I need an EMTB to ride in a Lab ..........
Meanwhile ....... What is more important, is someone riding The DJI Vs the Bosch up a mountain, because that's where most people ride Mountain Bikes. And in that test, the DJI was 21% faster than the new Bosch motor. That is a significant improvement.
Impressive demonstration though, and the first time I’d heard of the Avinox.I ride a Shimano EP600. My plan was to upgrade to the EP801, as all the electrics are compatible. The Amflow has me now in a holding pattern, as a more than 20% improvement in climbing speed, would really impress my riding buddies.
But I need to see some more longer term riding and longevity reports ......... Not lab tests .......
Fascinating Lab test. I'll be sure to keep it in mind when I need an EMTB to ride in a Lab ..........
Meanwhile ....... What is more important, is someone riding The DJI Vs the Bosch up a mountain, because that's where most people ride Mountain Bikes. And in that test, the DJI was 21% faster than the new Bosch motor. That is a significant improvement.
I suspect the difference in power figures between what DJI state in their marketing and what velomotion found in their tests is just due to different ways of measuring, as per bengy22 comments. The absolute power numbers are sort of irrelevant though in the end, as its just the relative differences between each brand of motor that matters. Whats clear from people using the bike and the velomotion test is that the DJI motor is the most powerful.
