noblige
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Commencal USA says bikes on are the way to Colorado. Do they not have motors in them?
commencal 2021
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rb.
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They do, but they won’t sell any until the Shimano issue is figured out. If Shimano recalls the motors, the bikes will just sit in their warehouse.
noblige
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Update from Commencal USA: possible recall is due to a motor mount that stripped out on a different bike brand. Unclear if that is a wide spread issue. The clunking is here to stay apparently 
They are not expecting delivery until DECEMBER even without a recall. Pre-orders will open once they get the OK from Shimano
They are not expecting delivery until DECEMBER even without a recall. Pre-orders will open once they get the OK from Shimano
noblige
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melmark are you sure about December? They told me they expect bikes to arrive end of September. I see no reason to hold them if okeyed by Shimano
Yes, it amazes me that some people can't wait to buy the newest thing or run the latest upgrade. I always sit back and wait till something is a reasonably known quantity.
MrBrownstone
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I’ve never heard clunking from my e8000.....
Check it
shenchman
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Sadly, I think they only have a medium bike here. But I’ll do a bit more hunting.
westcoastmtbr
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Yes, early production of anything always has some kinks to work out. Note; Bosch did have a major sw upgrade recently, so it all gets worked out in the end. Guess nothing replaces the "real world" testing when in this case the motor gets tested on many different bike, riders with varied skill levels, and yes, dry to wet conditions. Hope the "clunk" get fixed... fingers crossed.
rb.
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Commencal is now allowing pre-orders on their 2021 ebikes on the US website. Availability is saying Dec 2020 which is a little unfortunate. I may put down an order though for the Team edition. Anyone know what their cancellation policy is?
noblige
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noblige
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I do hope for earlier dispatch than December though. I'm still holding on to promised late September for bikes arrival in US
noblige
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Just got off the phone with Commencal US:
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rb.
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Did they mention if there is a chance shipping will be delayed until spring or even summer of 2021?
noblige
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Jaguilar
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Anybody know bb height on meta power 29 essential? Not listed anywhere...was hoping they lowered it from last years 354 otherwise might wait for new yt decoy 29
noblige
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It's 20mm drop, so I'm guessing around 350mm with an average tire?
rb.
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Thanks for the update.
shenchman
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same drop as 2020, i computed bb height theoretically as 352mm when i entered the 2021 into geometry geeks based on Tire Size Calculator with 2.4" oem tires (maybe @RobRidesEMTB can verify empirically)
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rb.
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Are you asking if I think the Essential build with a fork damper upgrade is the best option?
I think it’s a really good option, but I would also want to upgrade the shock as well. For a 160/170mm ebike, I want a little bit more adjustment on my shock than a dpx2 performance. Also I’m not even sure you can buy a grip2 damper for a fox 38 ebike. The hubs are also sub-par on the Essential.
ShaneBean
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I pre-ordered a few minutes ago. Like everyone else I'm hoping we see shipments before Dec. I talked to them yesterday and they weren't even sure if pre-order would be 1-2 weeks away. It seems clear they are guessing at information like the rest of us (at least the sales reps). The guy I talked too said shipment no earlier than October no later than December. Based on what everyone else here has said and my buddy who also called yesterday the msg the reps are getting doesn't seem clear or exact.
Jaguilar
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Thanks guys something to think about considering yt decoy 29 bb height is only 339 i believe. .same drop as 2020, i computed bb height theoretically as 352mm when i entered the 2021 into geometry geeks based on Tire Size Calculator with 2.4" oem tires (maybe @RobRidesEMTB can verify empirically)
note the 2021 stack is -20mm vs 2020Geometry Geeks
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This info directly from a source at Commencal yesterday:
"The reason why the 2021 META POWER models are not available for purchase or or demo yet is that Shimano has informed us about an embargo on their newest EP800 motor fitted on all the models. Out of all the motors Shimano produced they have discovered one minor issue with one of the units and they have decided to replace all the EP800 motors on all the META POWER models. These will available around the end of October and we will do our absolute best to have the bikes ready to ride early in December. Further updates will be available later on this year"
"The reason why the 2021 META POWER models are not available for purchase or or demo yet is that Shimano has informed us about an embargo on their newest EP800 motor fitted on all the models. Out of all the motors Shimano produced they have discovered one minor issue with one of the units and they have decided to replace all the EP800 motors on all the META POWER models. These will available around the end of October and we will do our absolute best to have the bikes ready to ride early in December. Further updates will be available later on this year"
Wow. Well in that case "Hey Shimano, please fix the noisy clattering while you're at it, during the embargo"
