Whyte Karve Evo

[zizajaun]

I got 5 full runs to the top at BPW and you can beat the uplift.

FWIW, I did the uplift at BPW for the first time on Friday. I lost count but I think I only got 7 or 8 runs in, and that's with being first in the queue when it opened and on the last bus up. It only took about 7 minutes of actual driving per run, but another 5-8 min of waiting/loading/unloading, and 2-15 minutes of riding/walking back to the uplift from wherever the trail ended (they don't all end near the uplift). Going to my van for quick lunch break took about 10-20 min of riding as well, because the uplift starts a long way from the car park. And the uplift only runs from 10 till 4, whereas the park is open 9-5.

Even with a fixed battery, you could do at least 10 runs: 5 leisurely runs in the morning (9-11 am), 2 hour break to recharge (11-1), and 5 more in the afternoon (1-3). Might even get a partial charge (3-4) and a couple more runs (4-5) after that, so call it 11-13 runs total. You also have the flexibility to do any trail (with any ending point) without a time penalty, session shorter sections, visit the skills area, quickly go back to the van for repairs/breaks, etc.

With a removable battery and Avinox or CYC motor, 20+ runs is doable. The climb takes about 15 min and descent 5 min, so about 3 runs per hour, and you can ride for about 7 hours with an hour for lunch. That's nearly 3x the runs you get with an uplift and nearly 2x the number with a fixed battery.

 

[Rob Rides EMTB]

This was a ride yesterday with a lunch stop charge at Risca - we stopped for about 45 mins for coffee/sandwiches

 

[nickf]

This was a ride yesterday with a lunch stop charge at Risca - we stopped for about 45 mins for coffee/sandwiches

Impressive ride! Sorry if I'm dim, but is the average power figure the human input or the motor output?

 

[galaga187]

I think I’d die of boredom before I flattened two batteries riding up bpw

Duolingo, podcasts or a racy romantic novel on Audible helps with the boredom on fire road climbs according to a friend.

 

[Zimmerframe]

Impressive ride! Sorry if I'm dim, but is the average power figure the human input or the motor output?

Average power on Strava is the total average power it thinks was used based on speed and terrain. Bike+rider.

It's only a rough guide as it doesn't know the surface, wind, tyres.

 

[MonsterTea]

I'd be all over one of these if they released an m2 powered version for about £4-4.5K similar to the Amflow PR Carbon base model.

 

[Endorium]

Seen the blue one in the flesh at a demo event today. Really nice looking in person. Loves my elyte and ridden a kado a few times. Both handled as good as anything equivalent. Expect the karve will be the same.

 

[Trek-Rail-eBike]

Thanks for info. How many climbs do you get at BPW from a battery?

We typically get about 7-8 full top to bottom runs and some riding in the quarry skills area.
This will be a mix of the normal path up and e-bike climb.

This includes a ~30minute lunch time charge

Bike : Trek Rail, Bosch Gen4, 750wh battery

 

[Bomble]

Seen the blue one in the flesh at a demo event today. Really nice looking in person. Loves my elyte and ridden a kado a few times. Both handled as good as anything equivalent. Expect the karve will be the same.

Was it available to demo? Was it a leisure lakes demo event?

 

[RoJo]

This was a ride yesterday with a lunch stop charge at Risca - we stopped for about 45 mins for coffee/sandwiches

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Question is, did you enjoy Risca? I think it (and surrounding valleys) is the best place ever

 

[Rob Rides EMTB]

Question is, did you enjoy Risca? I think it (and surrounding valleys) is the best place ever

One of the best places in the UK for sure. First time but will be back soon. Epic riding, so much variety too.

 

[zizajaun]

Question is, did you enjoy Risca? I think it (and surrounding valleys) is the best place ever

How do you find out where to ride? Trailforks has the semi-official off-piste stuff (Busy Lizzie, Wacko Jacko, Conda, etc) but I know there is a lot more that isn't on Trailforks.

 

[Apachesmith]

I’m getting one in asap. It’s one of the more interesting Avinox bikes I’ve seen so far.

when will you have the first ride review ready, so little information about this bike so far!

 

[Dax]

How do you find out where to ride? Trailforks has the semi-official off-piste stuff (Busy Lizzie, Wacko Jacko, Conda, etc) but I know there is a lot more that isn't on Trailforks.

Go ride and explore trails. Chat to locals. Or find someone who knows the area and get them to show you round.

 

[Pentti]

How do you find out where to ride? Trailforks has the semi-official off-piste stuff (Busy Lizzie, Wacko Jacko, Conda, etc) but I know there is a lot more that isn't on Trailforks.

Go ride and explore trails. Chat to locals. Or find someone who knows the area and get them to show you round.

Heatmaps are a great way to find trails

 

[zizajaun]

Heatmaps are a great way to find trails

Yeah, that was my strategy at Dowie - just looked at the heat map in Strava and went exploring on the eeb. It sort of worked, but the easy transfer trails were the 'hottest' and the direction of travel wasn't always obvious, so it took time to discover the more interesting/advanced stuff. I'll probably try it round Risca at some point.

 

[Hicksy 92]

Likely it’ll feel a bit less lively, depending on some other bike characteristics.

But for me, a bike that has excellent geometry, well balanced front and rear lengths, good suspension kinematics and a good spec can make even a long travel 180mm bike feel way more playful than a shorter travel bike with a lesser thought gone into it (eg XL bikes with really short rear ends, they go from playful to sketchy)

The Karve has excellent geo.

Saw one Saturday, the thing does look nice, one of the best looking avinox bikes out atm I think

 

[ZR1]

Apparantly only four of the blue bikes about? Might not be able to demo one for a while, people seem to be buying blind as it's one of the few 180mm avinox bikes.

 

[Hicksy 92]

I’m getting one in asap. It’s one of the more interesting Avinox bikes I’ve seen so far.

Ordered the rsx yesterday Rob ,

 

[Hicksy 92]

The bike is delivered with black zebs, placed order with uk Whyte dealer, its black, but you can get the zeb in different colours i believe

The rsx I saw last weekend had red forks , that’s what I’m hope mine has ,I must phone the dealer tomorrow to check

 

[kEARNEY79]

I tested a velduro rogue x last week and really liked this bike. But for an extra £700 I can get a much better fork, shock, axs shifting, fast charger & ride wrap with the Karve. I’m considering changing my order to a Karve RSX now, feels like a no brainer at this stage.

Only concerns is there’s no reviews out yet and I’d be ordering a £7300 bike blind.

 

[davosaurusrex]

I tested a velduro rogue x last week and really liked this bike. But for an extra £700 I can get a much better fork, shock, axs shifting, fast charger & ride wrap with the Karve. I’m considering changing my order to a Karve RSX now, feels like a no brainer at this stage.

Only concerns is there’s no reviews out yet and I’d be ordering a £7300 bike blind.

True, but Whyte do know how a make a good handing bike

 

[kEARNEY79]

True, but Whyte do know how a make a good handing bik

True, but Whyte do know how a make a good handing bike

This is exactly what I’m thinking. They rarely get it wrong.

 

[Hicksy 92]

I tested a velduro rogue x last week and really liked this bike. But for an extra £700 I can get a much better fork, shock, axs shifting, fast charger & ride wrap with the Karve. I’m considering changing my order to a Karve RSX now, feels like a no brainer at this stage.

Only concerns is there’s no reviews out yet and I’d be ordering a £7300 bike blind.

First rsx bikes may arrive in September, then after that it could be January, I’ve placed an order and the dealer said if he placed an individual order instead of a batch sometimes they creep through quicker

 

[Adyzakydany]

I tested a velduro rogue x last week and really liked this bike. But for an extra £700 I can get a much better fork, shock, axs shifting, fast charger & ride wrap with the Karve. I’m considering changing my order to a Karve RSX now, feels like a no brainer at this stage.

Only concerns is there’s no reviews out yet and I’d be ordering a £7300 bike blind.

I was having a look at one too, but October date for a size Medium is far too long to wait for a bike, lifes too short and I'm not waiting out a season for one of these, so pulled the trigger on a Velduro in small, frameset, delivery June.

 

[kEARNEY79]

I was having a look at one too, but October date for a size Medium is far too long to wait for a bike, lifes too short and I'm not waiting out a season for one of these, so pulled the trigger on a Velduro in small, frameset, delivery June.

You won’t be disappointed!

First rsx bikes may arrive in September, then after that it could be January, I’ve placed an order and the dealer said if he placed an individual order instead of a batch sometimes they creep through quicker

I’ve placed an order for the RSX also. Same, September arrival date. That’ll give me time to save for the bloody thing.

 

[Hobo Mikey]

I want one but bank balance says NO.

 

[kEARNEY79]

I want one but bank balance says NO.

I’m selling 2 bikes plus utilising the cycle to work scheme. Saves £1000, so £6300, still pricey.

 

[Giox]

Found it! Uebler Fahrradträger: Details - i31 Z-DC
72Kg.

Not true, 75Kh total but third rail only supports 15 kg. Only option for 3x25 is Ahaka,/ximplio TYT3 but it's very basic and a pain to mount

 

[kEARNEY79]

When are we going to see a review of the Karve? There’s a couple of interesting videos on YouTube but no reviews or rider feedback.