The bike is delivered with black zebs, placed order with uk Whyte dealer, its black, but you can get the zeb in different colours i believe
Whyte Karve Evo
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davosaurusrex
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When is it due?
Mid June , but they did say it might slip to early July, tbh I think it will probably July otherwise why would they say it
davosaurusrex
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Have you got one for test yet, @Rob Rides EMTB ?
There were only a couple of bikes available, but at that price point and spec i decided to pull the trigger. I have had a Whtye PRST4 and a Whyte 48 before and while not technically the best options I loved both. My also has a Kado and absolutely loves it. I wanted something to replace my 2022 Kenevo Expert and this looked the closest bike without spending stupid money. Specialized have just brought out the Levo 4 Evo which looks good, but with a price point of £9200 without any upgrades it is substantially more expense than the Whyte. I have ordered the Karve RSX with an e-Storia rear shock, the dealer gave me a high trade in value for the Vivid, so still way below £8k
No and from what I was told by the dealer he wouldn't have one, so the sale is not subject to a test ride
davosaurusrex
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Sounds mint. I have an E-Storia on my Wild, and love it, but think I'd still be tempted to try the Vivid first
davosaurusrex
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Was a question for Rob
Fair shout, only problem i had with that approach is the trade in value for the vivid, evenif i used it only once, would have nose dived and in reality it would have meant paying for 2 shocks if I did decide to change the vivid. To be fair to the dealer he did say the vivid was an excellent shock
davosaurusrex
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Yep, if you know you're going to end up going coil anyway, makes sense
Rack and Ruin
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Yeah you might need to check that. I have just had an email from Whyte confirming blue frame with red Zebs
davosaurusrex
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Well, if anyone ends up with red Zebs they don't want, I have a near new set on my boy's bike and he'd love to swap lowers for a red set!
Tbh I don't care what colour they are, red black purple with yellow spots
....its a great fork and a great bike, im blessed to be able to afford and ride such great kit, im just going to enjoy it like I have with my KenevoPeter1979
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It would be very strange to clearly advertise a specific colourway/combination and then not offer it. I know some people don't like it, but I think it looks great.
Love the video as always Rob and the bike, but I'm not buying this charge at lunchtime nonsense. It takes 2hrs continuous flat out riding to deplete a Bosch 800.
2 batteries, which I regularly do, 4hrs but that's a big day so more like 6+hrs with breaks. In theory that's enough time to charge, however I don't want my breaks at the car as that's typically the least scenic place to hang out, I want to disperse breaks throughout the ride alongside chat/banter/stoke. I would completely drop off the boil if I was forced to take a 1hr30 lunch.
First world problem, I know, but it's so sad that thet are so few long travel bikes with removable batteries.
Curious to know if anyone actually makes room for a 1hr30 charge and what their day/venue looks like.
Oh and of course the killer qu... dual crown compatible?
Just because it doesn't suit you doesn't mean it's nonsense. Makes perfect sense at a bike park where you are suttling up fireroads to do the descents.
The market has dictated the move towards slim downtubes and not quickly remoaveble batteries. Blame consumers.
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Yeah fair everyone has different riding days. I guess my question is does anyone actually do this, charge every lap or take a big lunch out for charging or is it an excuse to not make the battery removable? I think the maths doesn't work out, you run out of time, but keen to know if people make it work.
Good point. Both me @Paul Mac and some others who have bought avinox bikes have been charging at lunch. We might add another 40-60%. Certainly not the same as swapping for a complete battery, but a viable option for sure to get another bunch of laps in.
The ideal is definitely swappable batteries and low weight. But most bikes are now fixed internal, and we have the ability to fast charge, so the worry of fixed internal isn’t as bad as it once was.
Interesting, so I'd love this bike, the Zendit or the Dreadnaught E (all of which have amazing names), but my reference is my girlfriend's Rail+. It is equipped with Ohlins/180mm front/-1deg cup so Enduro spec and the battery swap is 30sec. So where I'm struggling is in terms of number of decents in say a 5 to 6hr window (3200m on the Rail+) is there a tangible benefit.
For short rides with zero range anxiety I'm sure Avinox is a blast.
For short rides with zero range anxiety I'm sure Avinox is a blast.
Until fast charging can charge to 100% in 30 seconds it's never gonna beat the Rail in that metric.
There are however plenty of other areas where these bikes might be better than the Rail.
That's a great looking bike, it does seem a bit odd that they (and others) are selling bikes as out and out shuttle bikes with a category 4 rating. I assume the motor is the limiting factor on most bikes like the Flux, karve, S170e, zendit etc. In the video you/they talk about selecting components to make sure it's bullet proof then slap that caveat on it.
I'm not sure of what is required to meet cat 5 certification but there is enough cat 4 rated enduro frames out there for me to not worry about it. I think there's proabaly reasons outside of the frames not being able to pass the testing that cause manufactures to just go with cat 4 (warranty ramifications, extra expense, etc.).
Most people like to eat a decent meal at lunchtime, especially when you are burning so much energy riding. I just bring my Ecoflow and fast charger, and add whatever whilst at lunch. I much prefer this to the extra weight and bulk of a detachable battery.
Adyzakydany
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Velduro is waiting on cat 5 rating...
Adyzakydany
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I do find it odd, cat 4 mens no drops of 1.2m....anything more then warranty doesn't cover you, i find drops larger than that on most trails, hence why I'm looking at Velduro which has a mega burly carbon frame with cat 5 cert waiting...
A good battery that recharges quickly will always be more practical than having to worry about carrying 2 batteries.
What elevation gain can the 700mAh battery handle in turbo mode? And how long does it take to run out? With 1300W, it won't last very long. What's more important, the accumulated meters or the total time we want to spend cycling? If it's time, perhaps we don't need to jump on the bandwagon of such high power?
It's self-shuttling a bike park where a fixed battery makes the least sense, especially if you are built like a typical ebiker. I weigh 110kg and at bike parks I just want to get to the top as fast as possible, to get more laps in, so an 800 Wh battery lasts less than two hours. Having to then wait over two hours for a recharge is a waste of money as well as time, because most parks are expensive, even if you aren't paying for uplift. A removable battery would literally double the amount of riding I can do in a day, even with a "fast" charger available.
I don't mind slow charging for long, pedally XC days because I'm using low power modes and not paying for access. If it's a trail centre with loops, I can recharge if necessary at lunchtime, but a single charge can often last me the whole day, or I can bring a range extender.
I do blame the consumer. Reading this forum makes it clear that bikers are a bunch of princesses who care more about appearance and weight than functionality, and manufacturers have to pander to those priorities in order to sell bikes.
Rack and Ruin
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The Evo is Cat 5
Quite, also the Gen 2 Kenevo nailed this problem back in 2019, we have taken a step back...
1hr30 for a 75% charge is not "fast", can we please call it "slightly less slow charging".
Not to mention that anyone who has to lift their bike in/on a car or doesn't have charging near their bike will greatly benefit from removable...
