Whyte Karve Evo

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Every Whyte I’ve tried has been amazing to ride so I have high hopes with this. They usually kit them out with sensible stuff too rather chasing a headline weight with lighter components.
 
Madmountainman said:
I read a UK review whereby the Kado was rated way better than the current Santa Cruz Bullit. 👍
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I rented the base model and it probably cornered better than any other ebike I've tried. Felt a bit heavy and the brakes were crap, but higher spec models are lighter and have better components. If they did a longer travel version I'd have bought one by now. Unfortunately, the Karve EVO doesn't have a removable battery, so it wouldn't be much use to me for its intended purpose: long days of lapping bike parks and off-piste enduro trails.
 
Another thing that doesn't get mentioned enough with Whyte is the life time bearing warranty and since 2025 the Frame warranty has increased from 4 years to life time. Realistically Whyte maybe one of the only brands truly designed to handle UK riding.
 
Rack and Ruin said:
Another thing that doesn't get mentioned enough with Whyte is the life time bearing warranty and since 2025 the Frame warranty has increased from 4 years to life time. Realistically Whyte maybe one of the only brands truly designed to handle UK riding.
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decent. 85% ridewrap coverage out the box too!
 
Rob Rides EMTB said:
23.9 KG according to the press release
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This weight with a non removable battery is a huge issue. I need to carry around 3 e-bikes on a tow bar carrier, and never found a reputable carrier that allows more than 60kg total. With the current 2 E180 and 1 E160 I remove the batteries even though it's a bit painful and I'm more or less in the 60kg, with Karve and non removable batteries it's 72kg.
 
Giox said:
This weight with a non removable battery is a huge issue. I need to carry around 3 e-bikes on a tow bar carrier, and never found a reputable carrier that allows more than 60kg total. With the current 2 E180 and 1 E160 I remove the batteries even though it's a bit painful and I'm more or less in the 60kg, with Karve and non removable batteries it's 72kg.
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Yeah I see that can be an issue. Barely any avinox bikes have removable batteries (Amflow PR and Crestline come to mind and a couple others).
 
I was thinking about the non removable battery thing - my current 23 Orbea Wild has this and whilst 95% plus of the time it's a non issue, when I do replace it a removable battery was very much on the list. However, I was watching the MBR video on YouTube with the Zendit last night, Danny charged it at lunchtime with the 12A charger and then did more laps in the afternoon, until he was pretty done in. If you allowed for whatever a decent sized power station costs now (£60O?) then that pretty much resolves the trail centre type issue (or if you have an EV with V2L, even better). I know it doesn't help with indoor winter charging (hasn't been an issue for me) or travel (bit of a niche case for most people I'd have said) but might mean not ruling some bikes out. And the non removable batteries do have some advantages
 
Giox said:
This weight with a non removable battery is a huge issue. I need to carry around 3 e-bikes on a tow bar carrier, and never found a reputable carrier that allows more than 60kg total. With the current 2 E180 and 1 E160 I remove the batteries even though it's a bit painful and I'm more or less in the 60kg, with Karve and non removable batteries it's 72kg.
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Again though, not many people will be needing to carry 3 full fat ebikes on a towbar carrier.
 
Rob Rides EMTB said:
Yeah I see that can be an issue. Barely any avinox bikes have removable batteries (Amflow PR and Crestline come to mind and a couple others).
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What are the couple others? I only know of those two and the Rotwild R.EXC.
 
davosaurusrex said:
If you allowed for whatever a decent sized power station costs now (£60O?) then that pretty much resolves the trail centre type issue (or if you have an EV with V2L, even better).
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Depends how many recharges you need, and how patient you are. For trail centre XC loops I'd be fine with a quick top-up over lunch, and might not even need that. But I'm 110kg kitted up, so for enduro/bike park self-shuttling 800 Wh lasts me under two hours. So in a full day's riding I could easily use 3-5 full charges, each of which takes over two hours with the 12 amp "fast" charger. Not really feasible without a battery swap.
 
zizajaun said:
Depends how many recharges you need, and how patient you are. For trail centre XC loops I'd be fine with a quick top-up over lunch, and might not even need that. But I'm 110kg kitted up, so for enduro/bike park self-shuttling 800 Wh lasts me under two hours. So in a full day's riding I could easily use 3-5 full charges, each of which takes over two hours with the 12 amp "fast" charger. Not really feasible without a battery swap.
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How many KMs and vertical do you do in one of those days? That's good going. I'm done in once I've drained my 800wh on Enduro stuff😂 , no bike park self shutting
 
Highland Wheels said:
How many KMs and vertical do you do in one of those days? That's good going. I'm done in once I've drained my 800wh on Enduro stuff😂 , no bike park self shutting
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I get about 400 m vert and burn 400 Wh battery per hour's riding (when self-shuttling). With an hour for lunch, I could easily do 6 hours' riding, which would be 6*400=2400 m vert and 2.4 kWh. And that's with motors less powerful than the Avinox, so 3000 m / 3 kWh is a reasonable estimate I think. Having one spare 800 Wh battery and a 12 A charger would basically give me infinite range, as the spare would be charging at roughly the same pace that I'm burning up the other one.
 
jeddartjustice1972 said:
Does anyone on the post know when the Karve will be available for test rides?
It looks awesome but the non removable battery is disappointing
Thanks
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Stock arrives at dealers at the end of June beginning of July. I guess Whyte will have bikes by then for the press and the rest of the demo season in the UK, which usually runs to September/October time.
 
zizajaun said:
I get about 400 m vert and burn 400 Wh battery per hour's riding (when self-shuttling). With an hour for lunch, I could easily do 6 hours' riding, which would be 6*400=2400 m vert and 2.4 kWh. And that's with motors less powerful than the Avinox, so 3000 m / 3 kWh is a reasonable estimate I think. Having one spare 800 Wh battery and a 12 A charger would basically give me infinite range, as the spare would be charging at roughly the same pace that I'm burning up the other one.
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Good going that. What sorta milage do you cover in that?
 
This thing is so close to one of my favourite ever bikes, the Full Fat Kenevo, its geo, suspension design and layout. Could even 29er it at the back and it would be so close to how I was running my full 29 gen 2 kenevo.

Currently my most wanted bike to try!
 
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Rob Rides EMTB said:
This thing is so close to one of my favourite ever bikes, the Full Fat Kenevo, its geo, suspension design and layout. Could even 29er it at the back and it would be so close to how I was running my full 29 gen 2 kenevo.

Currently my most wanted bike to try!
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You trying to get an XL in to test? Reach on the L looks a bit short for us trail giraffes and the XL gets the 465mm chainstays which I assume you'd want. Good stack on the XL as well
 
Highland Wheels said:
Good going that. What sorta milage do you cover in that?
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I don't record many of my rides, but last time I was testing a 520 Wh battery at Bike Park Wales I got 16 km and 750 m vert in 65 minutes, with some stops. And I got 18 km and 800 m vert from a 720 Wh pack in 70 minutes, with a bit left over.

At Forest of Dean, I demoed a Regulator CX with Bosch motor and used the whole 600 Wh battery in 90 minutes, covering 19 km and 600 m vert; but about half of that was doing the red XC loop in low/mid-power modes, so the range and duration were greater than if I'd just been lapping the DH tracks in Turbo.

So let's say on self-shuttle days I'm doing 15 km per hour and ride for 6 hours - that's 90 km (55 miles) in a day. My previous estimate of vert covered (400 m/h) was maybe a bit low; it might be more like 600 m/h, so 3600 m vert in a 6-hour day.

The most I've got from a battery is 83 km and 1607 m of vert over 5.5 hours. That was a 720 Wh Chinese jobby that came with a Bikee Bike Lightest motor kit. Obviously I was mostly doing XC stuff in the lowest power modes.
 
Greg Watts said:
Right, @Dax. 23.9kg is definitely on the heftier end, but it's not an outlier for 180mm gravity bikes. Context helps. Here's what I can confirm from the April 2026 Avinox wave, pulling from my database and the press releases that dropped this week:

BikeMotorTravelWeightBatteryPrice
Whyte Karve Evo RS/RSXAvinox M2S180/180mm23.9kg800Whfrom £5,650
Amflow PX Carbon ProAvinox M2S150/150mm~21.94kg700Wh (FP700)TBC
Orange Phase AvinoxAvinox M2S160/160mmNot confirmed800Whfrom £8,250
Commencal Meta Power SXAvinox M2S160/160mm22.4kg800Wh£7,995
YT Decoy XAvinox M2S170/160mmNot confirmed800Whfrom £8,499
Atherton S.170E Build 2Avinox M1170/170mm23.0kg800Wh£7,999
Forestal e-Siryon v2Avinox M1170/174mm21.5kg800Wh£12,999

(Whyte figure per @Rob Rides EMTB's press release.) So 23.9kg is entirely typical for 180mm gravity bikes in this category.

The Amflow PX Carbon Pro with the M2S came in at a real-world 21.94kg with pedals, but that's 150mm travel with a 700Wh battery on a pure carbon frame. Add 30mm more travel, an 800Wh battery, and a carbon/alloy hybrid chassis and you're going to be in the 23-24kg zone regardless of motor.

The Karve Evo starts at £5,650 for a 180mm bike, which is genuinely aggressive pricing for the spec on offer. Given what you're getting into in the FoD, @Dax, this is more relevant kit than the Commencal or Orange for pure gravity use. Weight isn't really the conversation at 180mm.

Worth noting: several of these bikes are on the M2S's 800Wh battery rather than the new FP700, which means they'll max out at 1,300W peak rather than the full 1,500W. Not a tragedy, but worth knowing.
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Loads of things wrong with this. Forbidden DruidE is missing from the list, the atherton doesnt have the m1 or an 800wh battery. Lets leave greg in his own corner, not summon him.
 
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Ribinrobin said:
Loads of things wrong with this. Forbidden DruidE is missing from the list, the atherton doesnt have the m1 or an 800wh battery. Lets leave greg in his own corner, not summon him.
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I live in hope that our ai influencer would be useful, but sadly research is the only option. Pivot Ampd also not listed.

24kg feels heavy these days, that’s around the same weight as my first ebike in 2018.
 
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