Levo Gen 4 What do you dislike about the 2026 Gen4 Levo

[electricbogaloo]

The shape of the downtube is that way because of the removable, low center of gravity battery. Comparing that to the amflow is like comparing apples to oranges.

It's the motor where the amflow seems better. But they both rattle so not an option for an Enduro mtb for me either way.

 

[Polar]

But at this price point it needs to look the part , first impressions do count. I wouldn’t say it’s crap bike to ride, it’s just not the revaluation that was talked about about over the Gen 3. In my experience it doesn’t handle as well as the Gen 3 it doesn’t feel as agile, balance weight feels off to me, then when you compare it to the much cheaper AMflow it’s not even on the same pitch in every area.

It can get into a crap writing not understanding how to reply to the one post intended but instead copy paste 3-4 other post making comprehensible cuz I'm an guru.
"What do YOU dislike about Levo 4"
Sorry can't know since I or You hasn't got one just tried it and heard only that it sucks among my buddies or at least if I got any therfore I bought another brand fitting my use but still I will keep on my dayl shit talk about others chose in they forum and is too busy there to discuss and help out in my beloved choice forum..
God bless me (you)
Happy new year / ride I love a crackling frame, Magura and of course waiting a couple of weeks when new parts are in need and of course everyone should have the same budget since you get what you pay .
Range extender working good today?
Some have done 25.000 km on 4 different Levo with zero problems.
Whish it was me.

 

[Ride 2d@y]

Why would you upgrade your Gen 3 to Gen 4? I thought about it before it came out, but now I can’t justify such an expensive upgrade. Gen 4 doesn’t do anything significantly better — it’s generally the same bike with a few tweaks here and there.

I love the few tweaks here and there, like the charge port, removable battery, swat, remote, display, dynamic microtune.
Now on the negative side, I have had issues with the app, some fixed, a few still unresolved -
Latest is I lost my 80% charge limit on both my app and on my S-Works charger . . .

 

[Powerslider]

This thread must be another example of DJI working to tamp down enthusiasm for their competition. Harder to imagine real people spending time trashing a bicycle they don’t want.

 

[Ride 2d@y]

This thread must be another example of DJI working to tamp down enthusiasm for their competition. Harder to imagine real people spending time trashing a bicycle they don’t want.

I doubt DJI needs to do guerrilla marketing - that new bike speaks for itself bro

 

[Powerslider]

I doubt DJI needs to do guerrilla marketing - that new bike speaks for itself bro

They make great action cameras and drones but they're known to be active propagandists in those markets. Extremely easy to see the same actions happening in the eMTB space.

 

[Polar]

This thread must be another example of DJI working to tamp down enthusiasm for their competition. Harder to imagine real people spending time trashing a bicycle they don’t want.

Bot bot

 

[Citylad77]

The shape of the downtube is that way because of the removable, low center of gravity battery. Comparing that to the amflow is like comparing apples to oranges.

It's the motor where the amflow seems better. But they both rattle so not an option for an Enduro mtb for me

If they had left the downtube the way it was on the Gen 3, tweak the geo a bit, Geni rear shock, new motor and battery, saved a few Kgs here and there I may have bought one. As it stands I and others just couldn’t get past how the Gen 4 looks. This before you even visit that it doesn’t ride as good as previous gen’s imo.

I doubt DJI needs to do guerrilla marketing - that new bike speaks for itself bro

lol
The last thing they need is for help talking up there E Bikes. The bikes sell themselves unlike some others.

 

[Polar]

If they had left the downtube the way it was on the Gen 3, tweak the geo a bit, Geni rear shock, new motor and battery, saved a few Kgs here and there I may have bought one. As it stands I and others just couldn’t get past how the Gen 4 looks.

lol
The last thing they need is for help talking up there E Bikes. The bikes sell themselves unlike some others.

Totally wrong it's only the motor/battery that's a jewel. Amflow is just some cheap wrapping for marketing.
The software can also any brand use even tweek it way better.

 

[PeterHenric]

Why does that bother you?

There were 17 people who voted saying they didn‘t like that you could enable class 3 mode on the bike. Why is that an issue? Can anyone chime in on that?

 

[salko]

Because it will increase hate towards ebikes and tighten up local regulations.

 

[linkqwd]

There were 17 people who voted saying they didn‘t like that you could enable class 3 mode on the bike. Why is that an issue? Can anyone chime in on that?

search for Playing with fire header in this pinkbike article
I believe its started there
and developed in here later
so specialized opened pandora box or smthing, but I would say amflow actually started the arm race

 

[Powerslider]

Because it will increase hate towards ebikes and tighten up local regulations.

Only time I'm hitting the Class 1 limit on trails is downhill. How would people propose limiting bikes (e-bike or otherwise) from going too fast downhill?

 

[PeterHenric]

Because it will increase hate towards ebikes and tighten up local regulations.

No. A**hole riders are what will increase hate towards ebikes. You can easily ride up to 28mph and have it not affect anyone else. You can zoom up on an acoustic bike in 19mph mode and pass them like an a**hole. That is what makes the difference.

 

[PeterHenric]

Only time I'm hitting the Class 1 limit on trails is downhill. How would people propose limiting bikes (e-bike or otherwise) from going too fast downhill?

This. Downhill is different than climbs. I’ve never gone above 19 on any climb.

 

[salko]

No. A**hole riders are what will increase hate towards ebikes. You can easily ride up to 28mph and have it not affect anyone else. You can zoom up on an acoustic bike in 19mph mode and pass them like an a**hole. That is what makes the difference.

Yes but being an a**hole@28mph is much worse than being a**hole@19mph.

 

[PeterHenric]

Yes but being an a**hole@28mph is much worse than being a**hole@19mph.

No. Being an a**hole is being an a**hole. It doesn’t matter if I’m going down a hill at 19 or 28 mph if the way I pass the person is inconsiderate or kind. Same goes for climbs. Be considerate at any speed.

 

[Ndanger]

The shape of the downtube is that way because of the removable, low center of gravity battery. Comparing that to the amflow is like comparing apples to oranges.

I personally do not find the downtube to be a design that was particularly thoughtful in regards to appearance. From a purely aesthetic standpoint, the Levo Gen 4 downtube feels visually dominant. It’s clearly doing a lot of structural and packaging work, but the proportions make it stand out more than I personally prefer.

Compared to bikes, for example, using Bosch Gen 5 systems with easily removable batteries, the Levo Gen 4 sits in a different visual category. The Bosch layouts allow for a slimmer downtube profile, which reads as lighter and more traditional to my eye.

The Levo Gen 4 has a very purposeful, engineered look, but the downtube size shifts the overall design language toward function-first. Other systems, like Bosch Gen 5 with removable batteries, strike a balance that feels more compact and visually restrained.This is entirely a personal taste thing, but I’m more drawn to e-MTBs where the downtube fades into the frame rather than becoming a focal point. For me, Bosch Gen 5 bikes and even more so, Amflow, achieve that more successfully.

 

[Powerslider]

I personally do not find the downtube to be a design that was particularly thoughtful in regards to appearance. From a purely aesthetic standpoint, the Levo Gen 4 downtube feels visually dominant. It’s clearly doing a lot of structural and packaging work, but the proportions make it stand out more than I personally prefer.

Compared to bikes, for example, using Bosch Gen 5 systems with easily removable batteries, the Levo Gen 4 sits in a different visual category. The Bosch layouts allow for a slimmer downtube profile, which reads as lighter and more traditional to my eye.

The Levo Gen 4 has a very purposeful, engineered look, but the downtube size shifts the overall design language toward function-first. Other systems, like Bosch Gen 5 with removable batteries, strike a balance that feels more compact and visually restrained.This is entirely a personal taste thing, but I’m more drawn to e-MTBs where the downtube fades into the frame rather than becoming a focal point. For me, Bosch Gen 5 bikes and even more so, Amflow, achieve that more successfully.

For me, downtube size is an aesthetic consideration but it’s only one small factor of many that guide my buying decision. Even if I only focus on appearance, overall I find the carbon Levo 4 frame pretty damn sexy. Other bikes like the Amflow you mention does have a smaller downtube, but other frame details aren’t as attractive… and that’s only talking looks. A lot more than downtube size goes into my decision making process.

 

[Citylad77]

I personally do not find the downtube to be a design that was particularly thoughtful in regards to appearance. From a purely aesthetic standpoint, the Levo Gen 4 downtube feels visually dominant. It’s clearly doing a lot of structural and packaging work, but the proportions make it stand out more than I personally prefer.

Compared to bikes, for example, using Bosch Gen 5 systems with easily removable batteries, the Levo Gen 4 sits in a different visual category. The Bosch layouts allow for a slimmer downtube profile, which reads as lighter and more traditional to my eye.

The Levo Gen 4 has a very purposeful, engineered look, but the downtube size shifts the overall design language toward function-first. Other systems, like Bosch Gen 5 with removable batteries, strike a balance that feels more compact and visually restrained.This is entirely a personal taste thing, but I’m more drawn to e-MTBs where the downtube fades into the frame rather than becoming a focal point. For me, Bosch Gen 5 bikes and even more so, Amflow, achieve that more successfully.

When the Gen 4 came out I visited a store to see one, there were about 7-10 of us all stood round laughing at the way it looked. First impressions do count.

 

[cream]

What I dislike about gen 4 Levo is the fact I didn't fall in "love" with it like I did first with gen1 and later with gen3. I still "love" them and will keep both. I don't own a Levo 4 but I had one for a couple of days. Great bike, can't deny that, but that's it. No man machine connection. I have a happy family for now, we're evolving together

What I like about gen4 though...is the charge port, they nailed it

 

[Citylad77]

What I dislike about gen 4 Levo is the fact I didn't fall in "love" with it like I did first with gen1 and later with gen3. I still "love" them and will keep both. I don't own a Levo 4 but I had one for a couple of days. Great bike, can't deny that, but that's it. No man machine connection. I have a happy family for now, we're evolving together

What I like about gen4 though...is the charge port, they nailed it

In my experience the Gen 4 rides like it looks.

 

[Polar]

In my experience the Gen 4 rides like it looks.

Agree it looks fantastic and ride fantastic.
Just out of curiosity how many houers/milage have you ridden it and what type of different trails?

 

[Fangs2k]

When the Gen 4 came out I visited a store to see one, there were about 7-10 of us all stood round laughing at the way it looked. First impressions do count.

When I was invited to a store to see the Gen4, I stood around drinking the free coffee and eating the free Pain au chocolat, forming my first impression that it looked a lot better in the flesh than the pictures.

I guess we move in very different circles!

 

[electricbogaloo]

I personally do not find the downtube to be a design that was particularly thoughtful in regards to appearance. From a purely aesthetic standpoint, the Levo Gen 4 downtube feels visually dominant. It’s clearly doing a lot of structural and packaging work, but the proportions make it stand out more than I personally prefer.

Compared to bikes, for example, using Bosch Gen 5 systems with easily removable batteries, the Levo Gen 4 sits in a different visual category. The Bosch layouts allow for a slimmer downtube profile, which reads as lighter and more traditional to my eye.

The Levo Gen 4 has a very purposeful, engineered look, but the downtube size shifts the overall design language toward function-first. Other systems, like Bosch Gen 5 with removable batteries, strike a balance that feels more compact and visually restrained.This is entirely a personal taste thing, but I’m more drawn to e-MTBs where the downtube fades into the frame rather than becoming a focal point. For me, Bosch Gen 5 bikes and even more so, Amflow, achieve that more successfully.

I think the main problem is that they put too many features in it. They wanted a easily removable side load battery which I believe structurally adds more weight than on that gets removed downwards/front like in most Bosch bikes. Then on top of that they added the modular concept with the range extender inside of the frame plus the compartment. Its neat for a water bottle but this design adds complexity and therefore weight and rises center of gravity. To lower that they had to make the main battery very thick which then makes the downtube thick.

Its so bad that I can't decide if the gen 3 with the turned motor looks even worse or better. Personally I'm function > looks but it doesn't have to be hideous. Therefore I really like the approach of sliding the battery out of the downtube which is the best compromise of stability/weight and ease of removal. Then you have to turn the motor which will create a visual uneevenness but its perfect for low center of gravity and with smaller motors won't be an issue.

In theory there could also be a system where the motor can be quickly released and turned away so that the battery can slide out and its still visually pleasing. But by turning the motor and having the battery sit even lower you can get the lowest center of gravity and best handling.

 

[Polar]

Interesting to notice @Citylad77 don't answer my question but I recon it's cuz he doesn't know what he's talking about cuz he should answer since he's an experienced rider and know everything about brands and what riding style ppl he has never met before do

 

[Moderator]

Ladies and Gen4ts,

Can we end the endless boring circle of petty gen4 love/hate sniping.

I have every faith you all have the intellectual ability to be far more creative in your criticism or admiration for the Gen4 Levo.

 

[cañonaco]

This morning I went out again with the Levo4 LT after more than a month focused on the Kenevo SL.

It's true, the bike is four kilos heavier than the SL with its 111 Nm of torque and 840 mAh battery. But after the first hour, it feels just as agile, fast, and stable!

That said, to compete with the Kenevo SL, it needs the Cascade linkage and the 230/65 shock.

 

[PeterHenric]

This morning I went out again with the Levo4 LT after more than a month focused on the Kenevo SL.

It's true, the bike is four kilos heavier than the SL with its 111 Nm of torque and 840 mAh battery. But after the first hour, it feels just as agile, fast, and stable!

That said, to compete with the Kenevo SL, it needs the Cascade linkage and the 230/65 shock.

I agree with this. After going 180/170 with my Gen 4, it’s an amazing bike. It was an amazing bike to start with but now it’s more amazing.
What I think about ANY mostly capable bike is you get used to it and learn how to make it do what you need it to do. It’s not until you go back to back with a different bike that you will see differences and find things you like/don’t. Ultimately, a lot of it comes down to rider preference. I Changed a number of things on the bike because I wanted to, not because I thought it needed it. I have a friend who swore the bike was unrideable until changing A TON of stuff on it. Funny how that works out.

 

[Citylad77]

When I was invited to a store to see the Gen4, I stood around drinking the free coffee and eating the free Pain au chocolat, forming my first impression that it looked a lot better in the flesh than the pictures.

I guess we move in very different circles!

I have spent over 50k GBP on S Works Levos from 19 never been offered so much as a Cup of Tea, there is a nice Costa down the road though. lol.