I decided to dont reply to the other post because I dont want to start a discusion that goes to nowhere.
I'm not trying to be difficult. You said in the other post that if specialized had dropped the power to make things more reliable, we should complain ! .... They haven't , but as I said, your statement leads to a situation where people just complain no matter what the reason.
I also said that you can check your power. If you can still draw 20 amps, then they've not reduced the power. You'd rather just decide something rather than prove it.
They've just changed the power delivery to make it smoother. If that means your motor is more reliable then it's a sensible upgrade ? Yes, others have said the same, but most of them hadn't updated the application before they did the update, so they had their acceleration response reduced. Once they'd corrected that, it was ok again.
To be honest, I really can't believe I'm here again responding to the Spesh bashing. I said I wouldn't do it anymore, but if people are just complaining about any bike and it's systems irrationally, then I can't help but say something .. call me a knob ..
As Aarfled told you, usually, the drop of voltage is replaced by increasing the current to have constant power.
Yes .. and as I said, I didn't explain it very well . But the point is , you are limited to 20 amps - so as voltage drops you will have less power.
I decided to dont reply to the other post because I dont want to start a discusion that goes to nowhere.
The limit of 3 volt per series is a totally safe and very common. Until 2.9v is also of, lower limits is right that can affect the battery life but 3 volt is totally ok. If you cut 3.3 or 3.4v, yes you can extend the battery life also if you charge to 4 and cut 3.5 but who wants that, is totally silly except for the battery manufacturer, to pass the warranty period without any claim.
This is your opinion - but as you say at the end, in your opinion it's "Silly" .. but as you also say, it reduces the likely hood of warranty claims - because of the simple fact that it makes the batteries more reliable and last longer. Everyone charges differently, stores differently, abuses their bikes differently - they have to take this into account.
All companies do this. They've not done it to try to steal power from us. They all desperately want to be able to give more than anyone else because it gives them a commercial advantage. Some of the cells might be able to withstand a wider range, but from a commercial standpoint, they've deemed it not worth the risk.
If you investigate further, you'll find that Bosch have the widest spread and have taken the most risk. Shimano have the lowest spread and have taken the least risk. To say that any of them are just trying to withhold your power from you is ridiculous.
As you yourself have said :
in my oppinion the are doing like some cars manufacturers, keeping that energy to maintain the range when the battery starts to loose performance.
It's not so much they they're keeping to free it up later, but because of operating the battery in a safer performance zone, it means that it might drop 10% capacity in a year for instance, but it then won't continue to drop - it will stay usable for longer.
I don't know about you, but I'd rather have a battery I can keep and use for 2/3/4/5 years than one which gives me 10% more range for the first three months, but then drops off rapidly and I need to buy a new one every year.
If you're really upset about it, just hack the voltage limits and accept that your battery isn't guaranteed anymore.
Anyway ... I'm off to defend haibike from people who think that bikes have their own nanobot service crew on board and to prepare to defend the siryon when people complain that a 17kg bike won't go 200km's ..
Oh yes .. Welcome to the forum
and glad you like your bike
