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it says awaiting approval on the article I posted. Perhaps I did something wrong?Article Video: Teewing Flux 180mm, high-pivot, Avinox EMTB first look and ride
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it says awaiting approval on the article I posted. Perhaps I did something wrong?
No, not you. Sorry, technical errorGood to hear
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I prefer the look of the Teewing compared to the Velduro, I’m in the same boat as you, needs to be a frame only option for it to be on the table
One thing I am not crazy about is running it mullet changes the rear travel to 178. Wish it left it at 170 not matter what wheel you run. that way you can have a nice 10mm difference front to rear, that seems to be a good balance on most bikes, 170r/180f etc
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Sorry for my speculation, I enjoyed the video. Perhaps it was also posted elsewhere but I thought I'd asked if you had any idea of when Teewings would be on sale in the UK?
slickrock
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Trying to verify if this frame indeed has an i-Track idler as the article specified. Can't quite see where the CS pivot is relative to idler - looks to be the same, but again need closer inspection. It's hard to ferret out truth from AI slop.
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Looks very similar to the Norco I-track setup, especially how the pulley is attached to the chainstay.
Would be very surprised if it wasn’t i-track. Keep us posted
Here is s close up picture, looks like it is (if I understand i-track) the idler is on the pivot.
Currently the only known Teewing seller in Australia, is a Mobile Mechanic out of Queensland. Does anyone know if there be any official agents and support ?
The website doesn't even list bike prices of the Turbo Force.
I've sent Teewing an email. Haven't heard anything back. Support is going to be the biggest risk with this bike. The only good thing is, for the Motor & Battery System. I'll be able to get spares from the Amflow website.
The website doesn't even list bike prices of the Turbo Force.
I've sent Teewing an email. Haven't heard anything back. Support is going to be the biggest risk with this bike. The only good thing is, for the Motor & Battery System. I'll be able to get spares from the Amflow website.
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slickrock
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Agree that it looks like the Norco, but at least Norco is licensing i-track. But have to admit that just looking afar at these bikes that idler is seems exactly aligned with the CS pivot, if not sharing the same shaft (i.e. idler location is static in relation to chainring). This seems to invalidate the whole point of i-Track, where the idler is meant to be on the chainstay aft of the rotating CS pivot . With the Rogue, it pretty clear its done this way because the CS pivot is fore of the seat tube and idler aft of it - i.e. the idler's location moves with the CS, so it's location is dynamic in reference to the chainring.Looks very similar to the Norco I-track setup, especially how the pulley is attached to the chainstay.
Would be very surprised if it wasn’t i-track. Keep us posted
Edit: The Norco at least does not have the idler sharing the CS pivot shaft - can be seen to be located mostly higher and slightly aft of the pivot, per snapshot of Norco parts diagram below:
The Flux may will have a similar setup, but really need to see some better photos or any parts diagrams.
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He (QLD mechanic) is no longer pursuing becoming an Teewing agent, spoke to him yesterday.
https://www.fixedbyryan.com/ is the new agent in Australia, spoke to him last week, at that point there was no news on the Flux.
Only disappointing thing is Fixed by Ryans frameset for the Teewing 150mm bike is $1000 more then what was quoted by the mobile mechanic in QLD ($5500 V $6500) I think they'll be a bit negotiable, someone on the Teewing facebook group (maybe to your post?) quoted a full bike price at $8k aud, where as the Fixed by Ryan price is $8800. So assuming its Fixed By Ryan replying, maybe pricing wont be too bad.
I've pre-ordered and put deposit on a Velduro frame, with the X2 shock for AUD$8,800. But it's refundable till they make the next run.
I would consider the Flux. But it would need to be better value than the Velduro. Which in Australia, it doesn't appear it will be, because of the middlemen. So if things don't change between now and about March. I will probably stick with the Velduro.
But I may delay things, as the Avinox Motor System may appear in more 180/180 Enduro's that are easily accessible, and well serviced in Australia.
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Yeah, I had an order in for a Velduro frame in AU, but cancelled in the end, def getting pricey with the shock included. I was going to use the '25 X2 off my Spesh Enduro, but thats not compatible so there went that. I think a Teewing frameset no shock for $6kaud is bearable, any more it'll start losing its shine.
Yeah $6500 for the Turbo Force with no shock, is not a good sign for the price of the Flux.
If the Flux frame was AUD$6K with an Ohlins shock, giving 178mm travel on the mullet. I'd refund the Velduro now.
Anyway ...... Let see where it lands.
slickrock
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There is no question this pricing is aggressive, and will put stress on Velduro. But Velduro is further along with production, with owner's manuals, kinematics, full insertion, and full size range available. And with an licensed i-track design that "seems" more dynamic. The 178mm is interesting, but you really need to see the kinematic graphs across the board in the mode, not to mention coming clean with actual geometry numbers at each size offering.
If you are no hurry to let this bike play out and OK with design lifts from Norco (OEM making the same bikes?), then I would agree to see "where this lands". Northern hemisphere folks may have more luxury here since its off-season. Curious would US pricing may be (Cheeto tarifs aside).
sethimus
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afaik idler on the pivot location is NOT i-track, i-track idler sit on the seatstay. see the kavenz, they have it on the same location, which does not interfere with the i-track patent. source: their videos about the development process.
Hi sorry for the delay in reply, not idea when they plan to sell them in the UK. All I know is they have spoken to some dealers. Fingers crossed early next year
It's a bit awkward in NZ when the Velduro owner is also the distributor for Teewing and can set their own pricing...
No probs, it seems to have disappeared into the ether or was just a figment of my imagination!Hi sorry for the delay in reply, not idea when they plan to sell them in the UK. All I know is they have spoken to some dealers. Fingers crossed early next year
martin_m_bo
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So here is a new bike for next the next season with the avinox M1 Motor and that is a good sign that there will be not a new full power motor m2
sethimus
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nope, see the 26 forbidden lineup that leaked
martin_m_bo
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the leak is fake
No, I think the the plan is to keep the M1 as the main high end offering and have a budget offering called the M2. The M1 may still receive some sort of of update however.
The form factor of the motors I assume will not change meaning manufactures can design bikes for the future motors based on the factor of the current one.
martin_m_bo
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Ok this coud be but i dont think there will be a successor with a new top tear motor
xtraman122
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A long travel budget friendly Avinox based bike is what everyone had been asking for, now we have it. Now we just need it sold as frame only and I’ll be in line to buy one.
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