Velduro Rogue 170/165 mullet Enduro with DJI

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200 quid price increase and it hasn’t even landed yet… 😭
it's Keirflation + new labour tax of mountain bikers who are willing to pay anything, I include myself caught in this trap :)
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450, I can live with that on a large.
Pity we don’t have an official word from Velduro HQ with the exact numbers, and whether the first batch will have the upgraded frame and chainstay….
 
And then whether the European bikes due spring will have the avinox m2 motor being talked about for release early 2026.
 
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I spoke with the guys at Velduro last week after seeing the post about an updated frame. They advised the frame that is arriving in NZ in November is the same frame the rest of the world will be getting. The reason the frames were delayed slightly in NZ is that they were making changes as a result of the testing that's been happening and also changes required to get the category 5 rating. However I didn't ask about chainstays as I ordered a medium which will be unaffected.
My understanding is there have been a few revisions to pre production test bikes being sent out as the changes have been implemented but there is only one production frame.
 
Hi everyone,

We’ve noticed a few recent comments and questions regarding Velduro and wanted to take a moment to clarify a few points to ensure there’s no confusion as we prepare to launch in the UK.

Firstly, we’d like to thank everyone for the genuine interest and excitement around the brand, it’s great to see the enthusiasm growing before the UK launch and appreciate your patience in the meantime.
As a new brand entering the UK market, we want to make sure all information shared is accurate and up to date.


To clarify a few key points:

UK Launch & Availability
Our first delivery of frame-only units is expected in Spring 2026. Pre-orders will open soon via our official website. Full builds will be available in limited numbers shortly after, through selected retail partners, details will be announced in due course.

Frame Specification
All Velduro Rogue frames supplied globally (including those in New Zealand and the UK) are built to the same specification. There is no separate “Mk1” or “Mk2” version. This was a description used internally referring to pre production, sample units (Mk1) and final production units (Mk2) and should not have been shared publicly. Apologies for the confusion!

There will be 2 chainstay lengths:
Small/Medium 440mm
Large/XLarge 450mm

Pricing
Confirmed UK pricing for the Rogue frameset will be £4,500 (without shock) or £5,000 with a custom-tuned 2026 Fox X2 rear shock.
More information will be coming soon regarding full build prices.

Communication
To ensure consistent and accurate updates, all official Velduro UK information will be shared via our website, newsletter, and verified social media pages. This helps us maintain transparency while avoiding any speculation or outdated information circulating on public forums. Note: we have removed a few of our previous posts to avoid confusion.

To stay updated send us an email to [email protected] and we will add you to the mailing list.
Alternatively follow velduro_uk on Instagram for regular updates.
There will also be a facebook page and owners group coming soon.

Thank you again for the support and patience as we finalise our UK launch.

All the best from the Velduro UK team 👍
 
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sorry but the confusion came mostly from your contradictory style of communication. first you claim different rear ends on all sizes, then its just 2. then you claim the geometry stays the same, yet that is technically not possible. then you claim the frame is fine to use with a dual crown, yet that is not possible according to the official site. the last thing you still haven’t clearly communicated if that is now true or not.

not very professional in my eyes…
 
In addition to your statements contradicting the dual crown fork incompatibility on the official Velduro.com site will the bike that arrives in the UK next spring be Cat 5 certified?
 
Hi everyone,

To address the final points made above...

The Velduro profile on this forum was set up by my colleague with the best intentions, to engage directly with riders and answer questions as interest around the brand grows. Unfortunately, some of the information shared was premature. While all details came from internal discussions, they were communicated before we’d received final external certification and sign-off, which understandably caused confusion.

To be absolutely clear:

Dual-Crown Compatibility
The Rogue frame has passed all internal manufacturer stress and load tests with flying colours. However, until the independent certification process is formally completed, we cannot officially endorse the use of dual-crown forks. Once full approval is achieved, we’ll update this information through official Velduro channels.
Expect an update imminently on the website and socials.

CAT5 Certification
Testing is currently in progress, and we expect final sign-off in the near future. Until then, any claims about CAT5 status should be treated as pending approval.

We completely understand how mixed messages can look unprofessional, that’s on us. The team’s enthusiasm to share progress got a little ahead of our communication schedule. As previously mentioned, going forward, all verified updates about specifications, certification, and compatibility will come directly from Velduro UK or velduro.co.uk to ensure full accuracy.

We genuinely value the interest and scrutiny from this community so keep it coming! It helps us build trust and accountability from day one. Our goal is to be as transparent as possible and to offer every rider direct, honest communication, once the official testing process is complete...

Thanks again for your patience and understanding.
 
I dunno, I think one distributor on here is enough. If you have any questions just contact HQ and they’ll pass your details on and AU distribution will call you. I’ve spoken to AU a few times now, both via email and phone calls. Super nice guy, easy to deal with :)
 
Hi all 👋

Dean here from Velduro Australia.

I was recently pointed in the direction of this thread, I’ve read through it all now, what a ride! It’s great to see so much interest and passion around these bikes!

Letting you Aussies know the Velduro Australia site is now live, thank you to those who had a look before launch and gave great feedback.

Our first batch of product is scheduled for November production and December delivery. All complete bikes have been accounted for but there are still frames available in all sizes (with or without shock). These are the frames you have all seen on the NZ site and in the media with the 440mm rear end. Something I think worth noting is mid and high pivot bikes are a little different to low pivot bikes in that the rear end gets longer under sag. When riding at sag the rear centre will be around 450mm. The AU site has a bunch of kinematic info to pour over if you’re interested.

Apologies for not getting on earlier. Forums are a great place for discussion, speculation and debate amongst like minded people, but I’m not sure it’s the best place to release new product information. This is probably evident in some of the recent posts :)
As our mates at Velduro UK mentioned, Velduro International is developing a mechanism for the sharing of information with all markets in a controlled manner. This will ensure all customers and markets receive timely and accurate info.

If anyone has questions on Velduro in Australia you can check out www.velduro.com.au or hit us up at [email protected]

Dean
 
Hi everyone,

To address the final points made above...

The Velduro profile on this forum was set up by my colleague with the best intentions, to engage directly with riders and answer questions as interest around the brand grows. Unfortunately, some of the information shared was premature. While all details came from internal discussions...
Thanks for the info! As a large frame preorderer I'm stoked to see the 450mm CS change as the 440mm(even with high pivot growth) the only part of the bike I wasn't 100% with. And looking forward to installing a DC fork in the future.
 
Been looking at what hubs to pair with this frame build. Still seems like a bit of pedal kickback in the design, even with the high Pivot (edit- Mid pivot) the shock is not even fully compressing in the animation, so was curious about some of the new hubs that have some float built in to reduce kickback.
I was interested in the Tairin Shogun Silent hub, but it seems the Avinox system interferes with the hub ratchet design and doesnt allow it operate consistently.

More info here for interested people;


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Something I think worth noting is mid and high pivot bikes are a little different to low pivot bikes in that the rear end gets longer under sag. When riding at sag the rear centre will be around 450mm
we know that, yet it sags for everyone the same, so it lengthens for everyone the same and we have the same length for different sized people which is the core point of the critique. people want a bike with similar characteristics in each size, therefor it needs a different sized rear end in each size as the front end grows with each size.
 
Been looking at what hubs to pair with this frame build. Still seems like a bit of pedal kickback in the design, even with the high Pivot (shock not even fully compressing in the animation), so was curious about some of the new hubs that have some float built in to reduce kickback.
I was interested in the Tairin Shogun Silent hub, but it seems the Avinox system interferes with the hub ratchet design and doesnt allow it operate consistently.

More info here for interested people;


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Good catch. You can even see the crank arm shifting back in what is a very good example of the phenomenon. That said:
  1. The Rogue is more mid-high pivot than strict high-pivot so I'm not surprised that it might exhibit more conventional pedal kickback effects, thought not as much as unified VPP and DW designs. But maybe this is just the animation exaggerating this as the kickback graph looks good actually:
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    About 1/4 the amount compared to these these bikes without idlers from Linkage Design, though admittedly not exactly fair because of the cog choice difference:
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  2. Not sure if the i-track pivot location is ameliorating or exaggerating this effect, as it rotates with the chainstay.
  3. As I've been beating a dead horse on the Anti-Pedal Kickback thread, I feel that stronger than pedal kickpack effects are the effects of chain-whipping on rear suspension performance. In this regard, the idler will definitely help in this case.
  4. The Tairin is damn interesting, but incompatible with the motor. For the time being, or until Ochain supports Avinox, we are left with the Sidekick hub or perhaps the DT Swiss DEG DF.
 
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Hi everyone,

To address the final points made above...

The Velduro profile on this forum was set up by my colleague with the best intentions, to engage directly with riders and answer questions as interest around the brand grows. Unfortunately, some of the information shared was premature. While all details came from internal discussions, they were communicated before we’d received final external certification and sign-off, which understandably caused confusion.

To be absolutely clear:

Dual-Crown Compatibility
The Rogue frame has passed all internal manufacturer stress and load tests with flying colours. However, until the independent certification process is formally completed, we cannot officially endorse the use of dual-crown forks. Once full approval is achieved, we’ll update this information through official Velduro channels.
Expect an update imminently on the website and socials.

CAT5 Certification
Testing is currently in progress, and we expect final sign-off in the near future. Until then, any claims about CAT5 status should be treated as pending approval.

We completely understand how mixed messages can look unprofessional, that’s on us. The team’s enthusiasm to share progress got a little ahead of our communication schedule. As previously mentioned, going forward, all verified updates about specifications, certification, and compatibility will come directly from Velduro UK or velduro.co.uk to ensure full accuracy.

We genuinely value the interest and scrutiny from this community so keep it coming! It helps us build trust and accountability from day one. Our goal is to be as transparent as possible and to offer every rider direct, honest communication, once the official testing process is complete...

Thanks again for your patience and understanding.
At least you guys are communicating directly with yr customers. Not something you will usually get from a lot of big bike brands. I think a lot of peeps just don't recognise the immensity of releasing a new e-mtb into the global market. Gotta be pretty daunting!
 
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