Unno Mith released with DJI motor, 800Wh battery

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Has anybody measured the maximum seatpost insertion length on an S2 size Unno Mith?
Is a longer dropper as the standard 180mm possible??
 
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silverstone said:
Has anybody measured the maximum seatpost insertion length on an S2 size Unno Mith?
Is a longer dropper as the standard 180mm possible??
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Unno hasn't yet unveiled the Mith with M2S, nor has he updated his website... could there be a third Avinox engine?
 
Adyzakydany said:
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Im so stuck between this and the Velduro! How have the bikes been holding up frame wise?
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The unno is Just a super Bike. I have never ridden a better one. Surly the Vel is also, but have experience with that one.

I posted here a small recap.
 
I’m not an owner of a Mith but I have spent a lot of time riding one over a couple of periods in the last 7/8 months.

It is undoubtedly a fast bike (in certain situations) but it is not without its idiosyncrasies. It’s an absolute pain in the ass to set up & get a ‘balanced’ feel. The relatively high amounts of rear sag work at odds with the front of the bike & it’s high stack & slack HA only multiply that ‘seesaw’ sensation on fast & rough stuff. I had to try lots of different combinations of suspension to get a remotely balanced feel.

The low BB is ‘very’ low, when you layer in a lot of sag. I’d actually argue is too low, as it’s gone beyond the point of just being beneficial to handling & becomes a bit of a liability when pedalling in trails. (Especially when the bike is marketed as the ultimate e-Enduro bike, the expectation is you need too be on the gas pedalling, a lot).

If you live in the UK, get used to having to pull it apart, a lot. The entire rear linkage is a black hole of mud, rock & stone storage. It’s possibly one of the worst bikes I’ve ever worked on for that, which to me, who rides in Wales a lot, is a real issue. Coupled with a ‘sunroof’ above the motor, which just allows mud to pile in on top of it & the wiring, seems madness to me. As a result, I had multiple speed sensor replacements & after most wet rides or hose washes I would need to pull the motor & leave a small heater to dry out the connections so I didn’t get any errors 🤦‍♂️

Having ridden multiple other Avinox bikes & swapped motors this is an issue unique to Unno & I can only put it down to poor weather sealing (a bloody great hole in the top of the frame!).

Sounds like based on the above, I think it was rubbish! Which was not the case at all, once I got it set up, I enjoyed it for the most part, it is however a frustrating bike to own.

The ultimate question is, would I buy one? No. IMO there are probably 5/6 other bikes I would pick over the Unno.

I haven’t ridden a Velduro, and recently I was at a point of needing to buy my own bike so I considered it. But, I really don’t like the idea of buying a beta product from a new company.

Then I delved into the owners post on here, and it is a live, organic experience of how not to launch a new bike.

Geometry changes, misinformation from importers, misinformation from the brand, parts missing, parts incompatibility, etc. Sounds like a total sh*t show.

In conclusion, I wouldn’t be giving either of them my money.
 
Hob Nob said:
I’m not an owner of a Mith but I have spent a lot of time riding one over a couple of periods in the last 7/8 months.

It is undoubtedly a fast bike (in certain situations) but it is not without its idiosyncrasies. It’s an absolute pain in the ass to set up & get a ‘balanced’ feel. The relatively high amounts of rear sag work at odds with the front of the bike & it’s high stack & slack HA only multiply that ‘seesaw’ sensation on fast & rough stuff. I had to try lots of different combinations of suspension to get a remotely balanced feel.

The low BB is ‘very’ low, when you layer in a lot of sag. I’d actually argue is too low, as it’s gone beyond the point of just being beneficial to handling & becomes a bit of a liability when pedalling in trails. (Especially when the bike is marketed as the ultimate e-Enduro bike, the expectation is you need too be on the gas pedalling, a lot).

If you live in the UK, get used to having to pull it apart, a lot. The entire rear linkage is a black hole of mud, rock & stone storage. It’s possibly one of the worst bikes I’ve ever worked on for that, which to me, who rides in Wales a lot, is a real issue. Coupled with a ‘sunroof’ above the motor, which just allows mud to pile in on top of it & the wiring, seems madness to me. As a result, I had multiple speed sensor replacements & after most wet rides or hose washes I would need to pull the motor & leave a small heater to dry out the connections so I didn’t get any errors 🤦‍♂️

Having ridden multiple other Avinox bikes & swapped motors this is an issue unique to Unno & I can only put it down to poor weather sealing (a bloody great hole in the top of the frame!).

Sounds like based on the above, I think it was rubbish! Which was not the case at all, once I got it set up, I enjoyed it for the most part, it is however a frustrating bike to own.

The ultimate question is, would I buy one? No. IMO there are probably 5/6 other bikes I would pick over the Unno.

I haven’t ridden a Velduro, and recently I was at a point of needing to buy my own bike so I considered it. But, I really don’t like the idea of buying a beta product from a new company.

Then I delved into the owners post on here, and it is a live, organic experience of how not to launch a new bike.

Geometry changes, misinformation from importers, misinformation from the brand, parts missing, parts incompatibility, etc. Sounds like a total sh*t show.

In conclusion, I wouldn’t be giving either of them my money.
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Great comment mate, I'm leaning towards other brands, I;ve read up on the balance of the bike etc and it seems a spot on setup is needed. The motor issue is standard across all, I have a bosch Gen 5 and after most wet rides I remove the bottom cover and dry out the connectors, just the nature of the beast. Looking at the new Wild too along with Velduro.
 
Hob Nob said:
I’m not an owner of a Mith but I have spent a lot of time riding one over a couple of periods in the last 7/8 months.

It is undoubtedly a fast bike (in certain situations) but it is not without its idiosyncrasies. It’s an absolute pain in the ass to set up & get a ‘balanced’ feel. The relatively high amounts of rear sag work at odds with the front of the bike & it’s high stack & slack HA only multiply that ‘seesaw’ sensation on fast & rough stuff. I had to try lots of different combinations of suspension to get a remotely balanced feel.

The low BB is ‘very’ low, when you layer in a lot of sag. I’d actually argue is too low, as it’s gone beyond the point of just being beneficial to handling & becomes a bit of a liability when pedalling in trails. (Especially when the bike is marketed as the ultimate e-Enduro bike, the expectation is you need too be on the gas pedalling, a lot).

If you live in the UK, get used to having to pull it apart, a lot. The entire rear linkage is a black hole of mud, rock & stone storage. It’s possibly one of the worst bikes I’ve ever worked on for that, which to me, who rides in Wales a lot, is a real issue. Coupled with a ‘sunroof’ above the motor, which just allows mud to pile in on top of it & the wiring, seems madness to me. As a result, I had multiple speed sensor replacements & after most wet rides or hose washes I would need to pull the motor & leave a small heater to dry out the connections so I didn’t get any errors 🤦‍♂️

Having ridden multiple other Avinox bikes & swapped motors this is an issue unique to Unno & I can only put it down to poor weather sealing (a bloody great hole in the top of the frame!).

Sounds like based on the above, I think it was rubbish! Which was not the case at all, once I got it set up, I enjoyed it for the most part, it is however a frustrating bike to own.

The ultimate question is, would I buy one? No. IMO there are probably 5/6 other bikes I would pick over the Unno.

I haven’t ridden a Velduro, and recently I was at a point of needing to buy my own bike so I considered it. But, I really don’t like the idea of buying a beta product from a new company.

Then I delved into the owners post on here, and it is a live, organic experience of how not to launch a new bike.

Geometry changes, misinformation from importers, misinformation from the brand, parts missing, parts incompatibility, etc. Sounds like a total sh*t show.

In conclusion, I wouldn’t be giving either of them my money.
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Couldn’t agree more regarding the lack protection for the motor connections and how tight the cabling is above the motor.
 
Hob Nob said:
I’m not an owner of a Mith but I have spent a lot of time riding one over a couple of periods in the last 7/8 months.

It is undoubtedly a fast bike (in certain situations) but it is not without its idiosyncrasies. It’s an absolute pain in the ass to set up & get a ‘balanced’ feel. The relatively high amounts of rear sag work at odds with the front of the bike & it’s high stack & slack HA only multiply that ‘seesaw’ sensation on fast & rough stuff. I had to try lots of different combinations of suspension to get a remotely balanced feel.

The low BB is ‘very’ low, when you layer in a lot of sag. I’d actually argue is too low, as it’s gone beyond the point of just being beneficial to handling & becomes a bit of a liability when pedalling in trails. (Especially when the bike is marketed as the ultimate e-Enduro bike, the expectation is you need too be on the gas pedalling, a lot).

If you live in the UK, get used to having to pull it apart, a lot. The entire rear linkage is a black hole of mud, rock & stone storage. It’s possibly one of the worst bikes I’ve ever worked on for that, which to me, who rides in Wales a lot, is a real issue. Coupled with a ‘sunroof’ above the motor, which just allows mud to pile in on top of it & the wiring, seems madness to me. As a result, I had multiple speed sensor replacements & after most wet rides or hose washes I would need to pull the motor & leave a small heater to dry out the connections so I didn’t get any errors 🤦‍♂️

Having ridden multiple other Avinox bikes & swapped motors this is an issue unique to Unno & I can only put it down to poor weather sealing (a bloody great hole in the top of the frame!).

Sounds like based on the above, I think it was rubbish! Which was not the case at all, once I got it set up, I enjoyed it for the most part, it is however a frustrating bike to own.

The ultimate question is, would I buy one? No. IMO there are probably 5/6 other bikes I would pick over the Unno.

I haven’t ridden a Velduro, and recently I was at a point of needing to buy my own bike so I considered it. But, I really don’t like the idea of buying a beta product from a new company.

Then I delved into the owners post on here, and it is a live, organic experience of how not to launch a new bike.

Geometry changes, misinformation from importers, misinformation from the brand, parts missing, parts incompatibility, etc. Sounds like a total sh*t show.

In conclusion, I wouldn’t be giving either of them my money.
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All very interesting. Doesn't sound like the bike for me. Out of interest, where would you spend your money?
 
UK based Unno Mith owner here,
I agree with some observations, but certainly not all.
I came from a Pole Voima and I have owned the Mith since November.
I rode it all through winter and currently have over 1100 miles on it.
It's the best bike I've ever owned by far, and if I had my money back in my account, I would buy it again in a heart beat.
The suspension is very sensitive to adjustments, but once dialed it is superb, 30 percent sag on the rear is not an outlier it is par for the course on most enduro bikes?
The bottom bracket is on the low side especially compared to the Pole, but it is nowhere near a problem, I personally have never hit the chainring, but have touched down on the pedals a few times.
All the bearings etc have held up no problem and I can't see how this hole on top of the motor is meant to fill up with debris, mine never has and it's been covered in mud loads of times?
The bike has been 100% reliable, with no issues from the motor electronics or chassis parts. I've had two chains snap, changed the brake pads once and have just changed the standard Magic Mary to an Albert for the summer and that is the entire servicing the bike has had since ownership, I have never had such reliability on an ebike before.
The riding experience is second to none, it's powerful, light and handles flawlessly.
I have been riding the same areas in Surrey hills for the last 10 years and all my best times are on this bike!
 
Paul Mac said:
UK based Unno Mith owner here,
I agree with some observations, but certainly not all.
I came from a Pole Voima and I have owned the Mith since November.
I rode it all through winter and currently have over 1100 miles on it.
It's the best bike I've ever owned by far, and if I had my money back in my account, I would buy it again in a heart beat.
The suspension is very sensitive to adjustments, but once dialed it is superb, 30 percent sag on the rear is not an outlier it is par for the course on most enduro bikes?
The bottom bracket is on the low side especially compared to the Pole, but it is nowhere near a problem, I personally have never hit the chainring, but have touched down on the pedals a few times.
All the bearings etc have held up no problem and I can't see how this hole on top of the motor is meant to fill up with debris, mine never has and it's been covered in mud loads of times?
The bike has been 100% reliable, with no issues from the motor electronics or chassis parts. I've had two chains snap, changed the brake pads once and have just changed the standard Magic Mary to an Albert for the summer and that is the entire servicing the bike has had since ownership, I have never had such reliability on an ebike before.
The riding experience is second to none, it's powerful, light and handles flawlessly.
I have been riding the same areas in Surrey hills for the last 10 years and all my best times are on this bike!
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Good hear you’ve had no problems. I loved mine while it was working.
 
5Tuey said:
Good hear you’ve had no problems. I loved mine while it was working.
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Four of us all have miths that have been problem free, what happened with yours?
 
Had intermittent power issues which after 3 months of chasing Unno I got a new motor and battery fitted. Rode it once and it started throwing speed sensor faults that weren’t fixed by a new speed sensor. At that point I gave up and spent another 2.5 months fighting for a refund.

For the 3 months the bike worked it was awesome but in the overall buyer experience was a nightmare overall.

The bike was due to be delivered in early June but didn’t arrive until late July so missed my 2 week trip to the alps. In that time Unno refused to give any update as to whether I would have it in time until 3 days before so I couldn’t arrange another bike.

It was a pleasure to own from then until November when it developed the issues but then it was only the threat of imminent legal action that got the initial power issues sorted in mid January, with the new battery and motor.

I was back happy as Larry after that first ride but the following week I went use it and it had a speed sensor fault. In the time it took to try to get a fix a fitted a new speed sensor but it would work one minute but not the next.

The cabling above the motor is so tightly packed and the lack of protection for the motor was a worry.

That said, I know 3 guys with them who’ve also been trouble free so I do think I was unlucky but the lack of support became an issue. I’d lost faith in the bike and the customer support in the end.
 
5Tuey said:
Had intermittent power issues which after 3 months of chasing Unno I got a new motor and battery fitted. Rode it once and it started throwing speed sensor faults that weren’t fixed by a new speed sensor. At that point I gave up and spent another 2.5 months fighting for a refund.

For the 3 months the bike worked it was awesome but in the overall buyer experience was a nightmare overall.

The bike was due to be delivered in early June but didn’t arrive until late July so missed my 2 week trip to the alps. In that time Unno refused to give any update as to whether I would have it in time until 3 days before so I couldn’t arrange another bike.

It was a pleasure to own from then until November when it developed the issues but then it was only the threat of imminent legal action that got the initial power issues sorted in mid January, with the new battery and motor.

I was back happy as Larry after that first ride but the following week I went use it and it had a speed sensor fault. In the time it took to try to get a fix a fitted a new speed sensor but it would work one minute but not the next.

The cabling above the motor is so tightly packed and the lack of protection for the motor was a worry.

That said, I know 3 guys with them who’ve also been trouble free so I do think I was unlucky but the lack of support became an issue. I’d lost faith in the bike and the customer support in the end.
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Arh mate I feel for you, what a nightmare!
Yes that would definitely spoil any ownership experience.
Takes me back to my early Specialized days with motor problems!
Intermittent electrical problems are a real headache.
I don't know if Unno have learnt from their poor customer service, but every time I email for information, a guy called Daniel is very quick to respond and is very helpful, although obviously I haven't had the issues you had.
 
Paul Mac said:
Arh mate I feel for you, what a nightmare!
Yes that would definitely spoil any ownership experience.
Takes me back to my early Specialized days with motor problems!
Intermittent electrical problems are a real headache.
I don't know if Unno have learnt from their poor customer service, but every time I email for information, a guy called Daniel is very quick to respond and is very helpful, although obviously I haven't had the issues you had.
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It was him I was originally dealing with at Unno. He’s a decent guy, I felt it was more the process that was a problem rather than him to be fair. I hope they are on top of it now.

As so say, awesome bikes but no good if the support isn’t there when things inevitably go wrong.
 
James_MTB said:
All very interesting. Doesn't sound like the bike for me. Out of interest, where would you spend your money?
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I guess I put my money where my mouth is & have a Dreadnought. But equally I would have the new Whyte Karve. I’m not super driven to keep an Avinox bike, I’d happily pick a Norco Sight/Range over the Mith as well.

In fact if you told me I could only have one bike, I’d keep my Fuel+ over it as well (TQ60 being the literal motor antithesis of the Avinox 😂)
 
5Tuey said:
Had intermittent power issues which after 3 months of chasing Unno I got a new motor and battery fitted. Rode it once and it started throwing speed sensor faults that weren’t fixed by a new speed sensor. At that point I gave up and spent another 2.5 months fighting for a refund.

For the 3 months the bike worked it was awesome but in the overall buyer experience was a nightmare overall.

The bike was due to be delivered in early June but didn’t arrive until late July so missed my 2 week trip to the alps. In that time Unno refused to give any update as to whether I would have it in time until 3 days before so I couldn’t arrange another bike.

It was a pleasure to own from then until November when it developed the issues but then it was only the threat of imminent legal action that got the initial power issues sorted in mid January, with the new battery and motor.

I was back happy as Larry after that first ride but the following week I went use it and it had a speed sensor fault. In the time it took to try to get a fix a fitted a new speed sensor but it would work one minute but not the next.

The cabling above the motor is so tightly packed and the lack of protection for the motor was a worry.

That said, I know 3 guys with them who’ve also been trouble free so I do think I was unlucky but the lack of support became an issue. I’d lost faith in the bike and the customer support in the end.
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Same for me. No issues at all. Earlier versions had water issues but this was fixed. Once the setup is done, its done and enjoy riding starts.

Also for the best bike i have ever owned and ridden. And during thr years i rode a lot bikes.
 
I had a Mith Race on pre order last year but couldn't get it due to a sudden change in finances however now that's all sorted I'm tempted again this year.

How many people are have to use 30% shock sag or below due to clearance issues as that seemed to be a complaint and Unno was quoted as going as low as 35% sag to get decent ride feel?

Any other issues I should be aware of with the 2026 version?

Cheers
 
Enduroland, can you please write more comparison about your KSL vs Mith? I am KSL rider and pondering upgrading to Mith. I am well aquinted with Avinox as my wife bought PX but for me the ride character is the most crucial thing.

With KSL, I am super satisfied, in mullet setup with generic For X2 it rides imho fantastically, I never wished for more. The PX rides terrible compared to it.. just drastically worse. For Mith, I have mixed expectations. On paper looks great, I don't mean visually. But the reviews are so all over it's impossible to get what it really is like. That weird leverage curve with progressive top for example, can it even ride well with generic air shock like X2 or does it need custom tuned coil like you did.
Every reviewer who got the bike with X2 felt like it wasn't quite right. I can't afford Push and it's too heavy so I would go for Storia, but my weight fluctuates a lot so air shock is very practical, moreso than swapping coil springs.
 
George_KSL said:
Enduroland, can you please write more comparison about your KSL vs Mith? I am KSL rider and pondering upgrading to Mith. I am well aquinted with Avinox as my wife bought PX but for me the ride character is the most crucial thing.

With KSL, I am super satisfied, in mullet setup with generic For X2 it rides imho fantastically, I never wished for more. The PX rides terrible compared to it.. just drastically worse. For Mith, I have mixed expectations. On paper looks great, I don't mean visually. But the reviews are so all over it's impossible to get what it really is like. That weird leverage curve with progressive top for example, can it even ride well with generic air shock like X2 or does it need custom tuned coil like you did.
Every reviewer who got the bike with X2 felt like it wasn't quite right. I can't afford Push and it's too heavy so I would go for Storia, but my weight fluctuates a lot so air shock is very practical, moreso than swapping coil springs.
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You could always go with an adjustable Sprindex coil. Would give enough adjustability for weight variations as long as you are within the ranges.
 
George_KSL said:
Enduroland, can you please write more comparison about your KSL vs Mith? I am KSL rider and pondering upgrading to Mith. I am well aquinted with Avinox as my wife bought PX but for me the ride character is the most crucial thing.

With KSL, I am super satisfied, in mullet setup with generic For X2 it rides imho fantastically, I never wished for more. The PX rides terrible compared to it.. just drastically worse. For Mith, I have mixed expectations. On paper looks great, I don't mean visually. But the reviews are so all over it's impossible to get what it really is like. That weird leverage curve with progressive top for example, can it even ride well with generic air shock like X2 or does it need custom tuned coil like you did.
Every reviewer who got the bike with X2 felt like it wasn't quite right. I can't afford Push and it's too heavy so I would go for Storia, but my weight fluctuates a lot so air shock is very practical, moreso than swapping coil springs.
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I've never so much as seen a Mith. But I think that you'd be very wise to copy the leverage curve and general design of your current beloved KSL. I'd probably suggest a Wild to stay safe.
GL
 
Mith has surprisingly "affordable" frameset currently for what is such a unique bike. The silhouette alone is striking. I feel like I would be willing to accommodate even unorthodox (or unnorthodox heh) riding feel as long as it's not too much out there.

It can't be that odd though, can it? Originally the first mith (or was it Burn?) had almost 40perc. sag suggestion so I believe the newest version is bit more normal. Real enigma of bike.
 
George_KSL said:
Mith has surprisingly "affordable" frameset currently for what is such a unique bike. The silhouette alone is striking. I feel like I would be willing to accommodate even unorthodox (or unnorthodox heh) riding feel as long as it's not too much out there.

It can't be that odd though, can it? Originally the first mith (or was it Burn?) had almost 40perc. sag suggestion so I believe the newest version is bit more normal. Real enigma of bike.
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Well that's just it. It's an unusual bike with an unusual setup. And the reviews reflect that.
 
I've had my Mith since December and have iver 1500 miles on it.
I think all the comments about the rear suspension are massively exaggerated, it's just like any other enduro bike I have ridden.
I love mine, and currently wouldn't change it for anything else.
What Im trying to say is, don't get too hung up about the suspension, I'm running the stock FOX dx2 rear shock and weigh 80kgs.
 
I'm 1.83m tall and rode the KSL in size S4. After a test ride, I've now switched to an S2 Unno MITH, which is much more agile yet still tracks more smoothly. Since the frameset didn't come with a shock, I can't offer any comments on the X2.
 
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