My true calories where around 4k+. I brought 3 liters of water and 3500 calories. All of it was consumed.
What made the SL a flop in your opinion ? What type of trails do you ride? Which bike do you ride now?
imo and thats all it is , the sl was under powered too loud and geo too conservative , like i said the bike is and was always available and now spesh can't sell the remaining stock , i now ride a rise and find 60nm to be the sweet spot .
Thanks for your response but I missed the part on what type of trails you ride. I also felt the the Levo SL had some issues in the area of suspension which is why I changed it including going mullet (modified the geometry). For my wife and I, we rarely need Turbo to climb up the FSRs and climbing trails to access our local here trails on the North Shore and Squamish. The Rise seems like it would need a more suspension to enjoy the trails we ride. Did you keep yours stock or make any modifications?
I'd try a helical retrofit if it was available. I love my SL in every way, except for the whine.
The whine is annoying, not so bad on gravel/crushed surfaces but on smooth dirt or paved it is easy to hear.
Helical gears are one answer but they add an axial load to the gears, the SL motor housing and bearings are probably not made to handle the load.
I've run my SL mulleted pretty much from the start when I bought about 2 years ago, I like the geometry much better than in 29 form because of 64ish HTA from 275 rear. Also have ridden a friend's Rise pretty extensively and it is a nice riding bike but the rear suspension is noticeably shorter feeling compared to the SL, that part has always been a deal breaker for me w/Rise. Same friend is finally going to long shock/mullet his Rise in the next week or so, should be about 160 rear with long shock and fork already 160 and 64ish HTA with these mods. Very interested in giving it a go after mods.
What an excellent example of a hyperbole! We consider the motor sound to both a built in bear alarm and it also encourages other slower riders to move off the climbing trails (or pedal faster) when we come up behind them
what bike? also how much trail in this mileage?
Is this a result of other lightweight competitors coming out of the woodwork ??
Kenevo S5 With 2.8 eddy currents and Cushcore.
A Real man's ride.
Kenevo S5 With 2.8 eddy currents and Cushcore.
40ish miles was very rocky single track
15 fireroad
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Big Chief was the most fun part. It's a black diamond MTB build 8 mile all DH trail with the top part almost double black.. Overall it's always up or down on the single track. No flat land.
Nice! The reason I was asking is that most people on this Forum probably have not been in your area and do not realized how diverse the terrain can be to ride on. Pics would be great! Also since this was posted in thread talking about SL bikes and you are riding a Kenevo, I was wondering how much of the time you were using full power or if your ride could be done on an SL bike (would you run out of battery or would it take way longer with more input from you) and if you would need a range extender.
? Did you remove the speed limiter on your bike as I tend to need brakes on the way down, not a motor? We have dedicated climbing trails in our area that rarely exceed 20% grade, which is not a problem, as long as you are not in a big hurry. I may be in the minority but 3 to 4 hours, with a mixture of climbs and descents, are enough for me. Then again, I am 60!We are still confusing power with torque. Levo has more torque than a SL, a Caterpillar backhoe has more torque than my Mustang GT but *not* more power. Levo has 565 watts of *peak* power, 240 watts sustained. SL has 240 watts sustained, peak power not provided.
We climb the fire roads and descend crazy single track. Everything is straight up or straight down.While I am not sure this thread is about the popularity of SL bikes compared to FF bikes (30:1 is possbile!), I am not sure range and weight are your strongest arguements in favour of FF bikes. I used to have a Kenevo but found it too heavy to be close enough to the acoustic mountain bike experience I was used to, when riding down the mountain. My experience of the SL design of bike was to get riders up a mountain and not have unnecessary extra weight on the way down.
My wife and I both ride Levo SLs with EXO+, Cushcore and coil shocks. They weigh close to 40 lbs. i also have a Kenevo SL with the same setup but have another wheel set with DH tires that I put on when I ride the bike parks. It weighs 44 lbs. I can ride either bike on any of the trails in my area including the Whistler Bike Park. My Kenevo FF was weighing in over 55 lbs.
You mentioned you have climbing grades of 40%+ and you use full power 100% on the DH trails (going down?). Does that mean you have to climb up the DH trails and you are going MEGA fast on the way down
In the end, this Forum is reaching out to people all over the world and with a diverse set of interests and values. I find it a similar microcosm of humanity that if you don't like my bike/trails/passion, you must be wrong!
It sounds like…no matter what 's the bike, i can destroy it.
Word!
37lb ebike that sends….cmon. Not over rocks or anything with an edge because you have to be running XC tyres to get near that weight so that effectively cancels out the sending part. You might make it down the same trails but no way near the same pace as something with decent tyres.
If this is true then holy fuck! I didn’t realise they could be that weight. Still dubious though…helium in the frame and tyres?
Same weight of my 2020 Specialized Enduro Carbon....If this is true then holy fuck! I didn’t realise they could be that weight. Still dubious though…helium in the frame and tyres?
