Teaser for Shimano to Bafang M600 conversion 🤫

[patdam]

Hello. I dont but have friend with access to welding machine and lathe. Could you please PM me? I suppose its not just the metal side plates that hold the motor in place. I could really use as much information and tips as possible. Thank you.

metal side plates to use original bosch fixing poinst and one tube weelded on to make office of bottom bracket to fix the BBS motor. No more.

Make templates in cardboard for the plates with positioning bottom bracket +- in the same position of the original motor, that will help you to draw plans. Make bottom bracket tube in standard length (+- 73mm) and weeld it to had the better chain line.

Very simple if you have machine tools

 

[trialsta]

Build update.... Im set this build up for free riding, so far I can jump this with ease and the mounts have held well,. No play as yet and all feeling good, about 3 weeks of riding done on it so far all free ride sessions and very happy with bikes performance

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I've got the same bike, so great to see this! What have you done with the batteries to power it all?

 

[Toms11]

yes, I do have some in stock. Send me a message.

Hello, as a new member I cant send private messages.

At the moment I do not offer such a solution, but it's on my road map. What @patdam did, looks like a one-time job and I'm almost certain, that he has no plans for his plates. You'd need to make them yourself.

Hello,
Is there a chance to convert Ep801 to Bafang or any other motor? Bike is 2024 Cannondale moterra SL1

 

[Tomblarom]

@Toms11 as stated in the picture back here, it might be difficult in your case. The new motor is likely going to hit the frame. If you are down to tinker and use an angle grinder on your frame, it should be doable You also have to find a solution to replace the battery or modify it, to work with Bafang.

 

[FenrisulfrNL]

What's the current price for the kit from steps to bafang

 

[WallK]

@Tomblarom Hello! My EP8 is slowly dying (or the battery? I'm not sure)
It seems like it should be possible to use your adapter on Husqvarna MC5 2021, it doesn't have a lot of stuff around the motor
Do you still produce them? Also, is there a possibility to make a battery in the same enclosure I have already? Or replacing just the BMS?

Thanks!

EDIT: Adding pictures from the internet for illustrative purposes

 

[Tomblarom]

@Tomblarom does your adapter fit Husqvarna MC5 2021? Do you still produce them? Also, is there a possibility to make a battery in the same enclosure I have already? Or replacing just the BMS?

Hey, yes I still make them and they are available over this webshop. Your frame is perfectly suitable, regarding mounting the motor. For the intube battery, it might be difficult to solve, but you can try to replace the BMS with a generic one, like this JBD mini BMS. You also might able to find some efforts for fully replacing the battery online: https://www.pedelecforum.de/forum/index.php?threads/steps-akku-eigenbau-zellen-gehaeuse-bms.82527/

 

[WallK]

Hey, yes I still make them and they are available over this webshop. Your frame is perfectly suitable, regarding mounting the motor. For the intube battery, it might be difficult to solve, but you can try to replace the BMS with a generic one, like this JBD mini BMS. You also might able to find some efforts for fully replacing the battery online: https://www.pedelecforum.de/forum/index.php?threads/steps-akku-eigenbau-zellen-gehaeuse-bms.82527/

Thank you!
Is it still lowering the BB as stated somewhere in the start of this thread? Curious if I could fit the original bash plate

I assume there's nothing that will make the intube battery work without communicating to the original motor?
Except throwing out thin long BMS, attaching something other to the cells somehow and keeping just the enclosure (and cell), more or less, right?

 

[Tomblarom]

@WallK yes, you might be able to fit your bashguard, without or minor modifications. Unfortunately it's impossible to support each and every manufacturers frame, because they are all unique. Also you are very lucky, that your frame is from the time, before they started integrating the motor deeply into the frame.. It's the same as with cars: The newer they are, the more impossible it becomes to change anything yourself.

Very hard and definitely not worth it. Shimano uses cells, that are barely enough to cover the motors power demand (~13A peak?!). Bafang M560 can draw up 30A, so you wouldn't be happy, with the stock shimano-battery anyways.

 

[WallK]

@WallK yes, you might be able to fit your bashguard, without or minor modifications. Unfortunately it's impossible to support each and every manufacturers frame, because they are all unique. Also you are very lucky, that your frame is from the time, before they started integrating the motor deeply into the frame.. It's the same as with cars: The newer they are, the more impossible it becomes to change anything yourself.

Very hard and definitely not worth it. Shimano uses cells, that are barely enough to cover the motors power demand (~13A peak?!). Bafang M560 can draw up 30A, so you wouldn't be happy, with the stock shimano-battery anyways.

This is why I was looking at an open system in the first place, it looked possible
Also, with battery bay in the front it should be a bit easier to fit something new in than in closed tube system (with the door at the end of the tube, I mean)
Still, this part scares me, high possibility of a "forever a project" happening with it

Would you suggest going to a 48V system then? I'm unsure if I need more power than I have, to be honest (power that I had when it was a bit "fresher")

 

[Tomblarom]

@WallK I recently got myself this "forever project" Just kidding, hope to fully tackle it. Might sell my custom Hybridizer SANN then...

I'd even suggest going for at least 52V. Anything below feels weak and like "dying". I don't if you ever had a cassette-player, whose batteries were about to die and the audio became slower? This is how 36V feel compared to 52V!

 

[WallK]

@WallK I recently got myself this "forever project" Just kidding, hope to fully tackle it. Might sell my custom Hybridizer SANN then...

I'd even suggest going for at least 52V. Anything below feels weak and like "dying". I don't if you ever had a cassette-player, whose batteries were about to die and the audio became slower? This is how 36V feel compared to 52V!

Wow, what a cool frame! Also, battery construction techniques are very clever, thank you!

I think the smartest thing to start with for me -- is to figure out the 13 or 14s battery first (or fail miserably) and then go for motors
I'm still unsure I want THAT powerful pedelec, but I guess you can make M560 behave like a M510, but not the other way around, right?

 

[Tomblarom]

I guess you can make M560 behave like a M510, but not the other way around, right?

Yes exactly. Simply tune the power down to your needs and unleash them, whenever you need it. But be aware, there is no turning back. Once you tested 30A, you never want to go below that. Sure a light ebike is nice, but a powerful one is even more fun, imo. Shuttling yourself uphill any ascent!

 

[WallK]

Yes exactly. Simply tune the power down to your needs and unleash them, whenever you need it. But be aware, there is no turning back. Once you tested 30A, you never want to go below that. Sure a light ebike is nice, but a powerful one is even more fun, imo. Shuttling yourself uphill any ascent!

This could have a compound effect of requiring a second bike conversion for my wife
Thank you very much for the information and encouragement! I'll start nibbling away at the battery part while it's still too cold!

 

[hunter47]

Is this possible to use for YT Decoy 2024 with EP6 motor?
Looks like no, non-drive side looks like it needs to be modified.

 

[Tomblarom]

Is this possible to use for YT Decoy 2024 with EP6 motor?

Not sure about the exact mounting interface of this exact motor, but if it's identical to E6100/E8000/EP8, then yes. But as you already guessed, I highly assume, that it will interfere with the contour. The motors on most modern bikes are too deeply integrated into the frame. Especially on a carbon bike, this is almost impossible to make it work.

You are better off buying an older frame or one that nativly fits Bafang.