Thanks! I have neve ridden Bean, Vics,, "?" Whips? or Bullet Dodger, how does Deliverance compare?I’ve only rode deliverance a handful of times. Definitely a double black and well above my pay-grade. Had to walk a few parts …those were sketchy. Well done
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etoni
E*POWAH Elite
switzerland, stübli, lenk.
E-Mythique 180/160 27.5/27.5 .... It really made me smile ! 
Someone out in the woods ...
Someone out in the woods ...
Didn‘t you feel a little over equipped when someone can do the same route with that lady bicycle?E-Mythique 180/160 27.5/27.5 .... It really made me smile !
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Someone out in the woods ...
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Na, I need to compensate, they're clearly a much much better rider (they even have toe clips for sending it).Didn‘t you feel a little over equipped when someone can do the same route with that lady bicycle?
RiderOnTheStorm
E*POWAH Master
I wouldn't mess with someone carrying a chainsaw on a bike!! Just let em pass... 
I'm not always at the bike park. It was so beautiful autumn weather, so have to go to normal trail riding.
While I was hanging about 200 yards away checking for voicemails from the emergency services, a young mountain biker passed by and enquired if I needed help. I thanked him, declined his kind offer and told him what was happening. He was sufficiently interested to follow me back to the lad. His first comment was that he thought it looked like concrete.
It may well have looked like concrete, but the ground leading up to it was becoming steadily more deeply rutted and spongy, with water at the bottom of the ruts. Despite what it might have looked like, the ground around it gave the game away. The grasses around the edges also are exactly what you find around ponds. All the signs were there for those with the experience to see them.
A 14 year old on lad remember. He wouldn't analyse it . I've put a trials bike deep in bog . Crashed on ice thinking it was water .
etoni
E*POWAH Elite
switzerland , grindelwald. eiger mönch jungfrau. alpine biking.
Yep, and he was probably going considerably faster than I would have been approaching it.
I don’t mind ‘Lower Vicks’ or ‘Bean’ , but ‘Bullet Dodger’ is an end of the day kinda trail(steep too) and tougher than Deliverance IMO . I usually take Bullet Catcher instead (connector). Never rode Misery Whip (yet). When I don’t take the upper trails (Saw Blade, Mental Floss, Sandinista) then I’m usually on the lower trails (Fluid, Hustler, Franks).
Lately I’ve been riding and maintaining trails off of Woodlands Walk. Some crazy-big-jumps there but I’ve added some chicken-lanes so the rangers don’t lose their minds when they see the jumps and gaps. (Red Bull level).
I really recommend SawBlade though. Steep down-hill but leads into a big loop and interesting sites. Take pics and check it off the list.
Solo ride a few years ago.
Kary
Well-known member
Video makes it looks easier than it is . Some steep boulder steps I remember two I walked.
Hi @etoni,
Enviable tour! I wonder how long is such ride and are you taking lifts to the top of the mountains?
One of them is in the video (just before the forest section) and the other I walked down the first time, and rode the second. I was a bit wary being on my own… but I passed a guy on the way up, so figured there would be someone coming behind me shortly
My first Skiing holiday Grindlewald 1982 brilliant area.
Yes I know the feeling I was solo and it was 5pm . Too easy to fall off .One of them is in the video (just before the forest section) and the other I walked down the first time, and rode the second. I was a bit wary being on my own… but I passed a guy on the way up, so figured there would be someone coming behind me shortly
Armor11
Active member
Made a ride out to what people around here call "The Columns". Pretty cool formation.
Slymobi
E*POWAH Elite
Finally fit enough to get back out 
felt good today 
felt good today 
Ladybower ?
Lot of folk been out of action with illness or injuries , im going to touch wood
Ref my previous post #10760, last Saturday. I was there again today and the bike has gone. It's a good job too because that mud flat was under water! Yesterday's rain was heavy and for most of the day.
It's maybe sunk right in haha
Slymobi
E*POWAH Elite
Kinder reservoir
I could still see the trees I used for access. The water didn't look to be too deep, but it would have made the mud even sloppier!
Off-piste at Sherwood Pines today. During World War One, the area was used for the training of troops in trench warfare (how to live, fight and survive). There are loads of trenches of various sizes and configurations. There are also three defensive ridges about half a mile long, all built by hand I believe. I was riding along the top of one today, there are also many trails that go up and over them.
The ridge in the picture below is about 30 feet high on the downslope (to the left) and maybe 18 feet on the upslope.
The idea was that the enemy would approach, with the defenders hiding behind the ridge. It would have been like shooting fish in a barrel. If the enemy kept coming, grenades would be thrown and in the ensuing chaos, the defenders would retreat to a second ridge. Fellow defenders already in place behind the second ridge would be on overwatch. If the enemy kept coming, the 'grenade and run' tactic was used again. There was a third ridge! I have tried to imagine what it must have been like, and failed to summon the true horror; it must have been hell for an attacker.
Enough of the military tactics - they were used by the Romans, so it's well established and has certainly stood the test of time.
When the war ended in 1918, the Army abandoned the area and in 1919 it was taken over by the Forestry Commision who promptly planted pine trees all over it.
In the pic below, the steep drop is to the left, which was once used by one of the XC qualifying races for the 2012 Olympics. The trail went left and down in front of the tree my bike is pointing at. It was steep, rooty, rutted and very dry and dusty, or very slippy! That trail has now been destroyed by the Forestry Commission because they re-routed the blue route along the bottom of the drop and they didn't want high speed, potentially out of control, riders colliding with those on the blue route. The off-piste route now goes to the right of the tree, down into the gulley and diagonally up the face of the second ridge. Not many succeed in ascending it cleanly at the first attempt.
The ridge in the picture below is about 30 feet high on the downslope (to the left) and maybe 18 feet on the upslope.
The idea was that the enemy would approach, with the defenders hiding behind the ridge. It would have been like shooting fish in a barrel. If the enemy kept coming, grenades would be thrown and in the ensuing chaos, the defenders would retreat to a second ridge. Fellow defenders already in place behind the second ridge would be on overwatch. If the enemy kept coming, the 'grenade and run' tactic was used again. There was a third ridge! I have tried to imagine what it must have been like, and failed to summon the true horror; it must have been hell for an attacker.
Enough of the military tactics - they were used by the Romans, so it's well established and has certainly stood the test of time.
When the war ended in 1918, the Army abandoned the area and in 1919 it was taken over by the Forestry Commision who promptly planted pine trees all over it.
In the pic below, the steep drop is to the left, which was once used by one of the XC qualifying races for the 2012 Olympics. The trail went left and down in front of the tree my bike is pointing at. It was steep, rooty, rutted and very dry and dusty, or very slippy! That trail has now been destroyed by the Forestry Commission because they re-routed the blue route along the bottom of the drop and they didn't want high speed, potentially out of control, riders colliding with those on the blue route. The off-piste route now goes to the right of the tree, down into the gulley and diagonally up the face of the second ridge. Not many succeed in ascending it cleanly at the first attempt.
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Playing with the shock..... woodland workshop ...
Too much time on your hands by the looks of it . If I don't get a list from Maureen I start doing strange things as well .
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