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I do not dig this old school geometry bullshit at all.
Looks like an opinion been given the status of a fact, a marketing tool applied by the opponents.
Canyon geometry has taken the EWS team championships the last two years, and this is not my opinion but the facts.
So, congratulations to zee deustchen engineeren fur zee guten werken ??
 
Not saying I told you so (much... ;)), but the absence of a new motor and bigger battery is going to be a disappointment to many. This effectively confirms that the much anticipated "E9000" or whatever it will be called will only be released on MY 2021 bikes; the earliest will probably be early summer 2020.
A ray of hope though - the fact that Canyon would go to the trouble of making the battery integrated and equip it with an E8000 does infer that the bolt pattern on the new motor will be the same, otherwise they'd be going back to the well to redesign very soon...
 
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But this shouldn’t be a down, because this bike is not intended for doing uplift stuff, its designed for having fun riding the way up.
 
nice

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Important to remember that this is an EMTB designed for the average rider, and is a great bike for that.

What do I mean by average rider, I mean the load of guys and girls I see riding local too me, who are doing nothing technical, nothing gnarly, but just love getting out on bikes and having fun outdoors on an MTB.

Most people who ride MTB's are not shredding the Gnar, getting rad, or whipping's and scrubbing up a storm, just loving riding in the great outdoors, and for these people the bike is spot on.
 
Looking at it in more depth the single most interesting thing about the bike to me is the motor cover/bash guard they have come up with - now this looks like a really good idea as aside from protection the motor from dings, it also appears to offer better coverage on the non drive side to where all the connections are, which can be a weak point on the motors. Clearly some though gone into it.

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Actually the bike is littered with really nice details, tidy cable routing through bars and stem, very nice little chain guide, the USB port etc etc.
 
Solid looking design with a good fit/finish and some little touches added on.

I dont like how the battery is placed so high/forward in the frame, surely they could have dropped it down/back a good few inches.
 
I agree on the over-long seatpost comment. I had a day out on my friend’s large and I couldn’t get the seat low enough to fully extend the dropper. Frustrating on a bike that was smaller everywhere else compared to my 19.5” Powerfly.
 
Every frame design has compromises, and as a frame costs much more than a dropper post, they chose to size the seat tube that would satisfy the majority of users. As per using the full travel of a sestpost, many can be trickled to shorten the travel if one does not want to buy a new one with correct sizing for his bike fit.
As per getting the saddle ‘out of the way’, for me the saddle is a contact point and also a mean to input driving to the bike, getting it out of the way is good only enough to allow easy front to back body movement without entangling the shorts on it. To slam the saddle down like the slopestyle or bmx riders do is only good for these kind of rides and not for trail riding.
 
New model weight is now at Canyon site. New model weighs 23,40kg while old one weighs 22,20kg. Seems old one is better in all areas except looks.

Over 1kg is a lot of weight just to gain aesthetics. I would take an external battery model over that
 
I expected that at least the top model would be lighter ?.
Weight is the first and most important aspect of a bike, to me.
 
You can't get the seat low enough for decent descending, especially if you are doing uplift days, you just want it out of the way


In this video its possible to see that its not necessary to have the saddle so much down to move the body all over the bike.
 
You would be surprised at how high some downhill riders run the saddle, Loic Bruni is a good example of this, as he like it positioned so that he can feel it with his legs, so he know where the bike is under him.

Still I dont think this bike is really about pushing it downhill, but its always nice to have the ability to slam the saddle as far as you can
 
New model weight is now at Canyon site. New model weighs 23,40kg while old one weighs 22,20kg. Seems old one is better in all areas except looks.
I actually prefer the look of the old one but maybe the new one will grow on me. The blue colour on the old one is way better than the new orange one though.
 
I expected that at least the top model would be lighter ?.
Weight is the first and most important aspect of a bike, to me.
Weight less of an issue for EMTBs; in fact, heavier is often an advantage.
 
In my dreams my trail bike weighs 7 kilos and the ebike the double ☺
 
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