Purple parznip
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They still look bland,give me the new stealth dji commencal anyday
New Amflow Models?
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ok, so I can't say why .. or why not .. but the existing cable works fine ... so please stop the BS.
Seeing an Amflow on fire brought to my attention their batteries aren’t UL Listed. Wonder if the new stuff will have better tested batteries.
Seriously. The crash has torn the the downtube and motor guard clean off the bike. You do realize, that is where the battery is housed ?
Does UL testing perform this test ? <shakes head>
And secondly. They have TÜV SÜD and TÜV Rheinland certification......... Oh ...... but we can't trust the Europeans ....... UL being American is definitely where the world wants to place it's trust ??? <How are Oil prices treating you ???>
Oh BTW. I eagerly await your "shit post" emoji. I see it as a badge of honour ........ Please don't disappoint me .........
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I kind of lost interest when they showed their hand, and saw they were not releasing an Enduro. But my LBS seems to think, prices will be similar to the existing model, with possibly a AUD$1K increase.
The Teewing Flux I bought, is to be delivered after the April embargo is lifted, and is about $1K more than I expected, based on the previous Teewing Model. I'm assuming it has the new Motor System. But quite frankly I would prefer the M1, to keep my stable of EMTBs with the same motor, and I just love this motor.
A.I. at at its best... On April 1st too
Whilst the picture is reporting as AI. The video appears to be real. Spokes and Tyre Text appearing correct.
That said. The bike appeared to have been in a violent accident on concrete steps, that has damaged the downtube at the bottom. You can clearly see the torn off downtube guard on the ground.
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Video is A.I. tooWhilst the picture is reporting as AI. The video appears to be real. Spokes and Tyre Text appearing correct.
That said. The bike appeared to have been in a violent accident on concrete steps, that has damaged the downtube at the bottom. You can clearly see the torn off downtube guard on the ground.
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You can use the tools to detect, or just use logic
Think about it - if battery burns, carbon frame will deform and melt, and battery will fall out or move out somehow. Smoke will be coming from the openings, ie where the display or headtube is. Amflow doesn't have opening for the battery at the bottom, and it's impossible for flames to come out @ the bottom, without deforming any other parts on the frame.
It's also interesting to see white smoke (while other one is black) coming out from shock bolts... No openings there.
You can also see random fire under rear tire, yet tire is intact. Very out of place
Carbon fiber is not flammable on its own, not possible to have flames randomly under the bike unless frame is deformed or opened somehow. In the video/picture bike is 100% perfect, except of course A.I. flames.
Lastly, no people in the video. Those are more difficult to A.I. vs picture of the bike. If things would be real, mountain bike in the middle of the street will get attention.
And of course, look at the users who post this. Just by looking at other videos you'll get the story
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Sorry. But we'll have to agree to disagree. There are too many accurate details. Like smoke coming out of the holes under the top tube. Very few people even know these holes exist, and are not plugged. Certainly AI would not have factored this in.
Regarding the poster. He seems like a regular MTB blogger.
Anyway. Any battery in a concrete environment crash that tears off the downtube guard is going to suffer a heavy crush impact. So AI or not. What happen is expected, no matter the testing, unless you run LFP cells. And I don't see any of the factory bikes running them. They don't have the energy density.
This video was all over Facebook on April 1st. If you don't believe that's A.I., sorry...
If you ever crashed on the bike, no chance in the world you tear downtube perfectly in the middle. But long story short, I think it's silly to make some theories after going over A.I. generated video.
Pretty cool! Curious, which site are you using for the above?
I knew it is A.I. just by looking at it, but above is pretty neat analysis.
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It would be interesting to know whether the range extender is compatible with the M1 models
inaxganja
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It will not be compatible. Also size M new bikes can't
AI or not- I feel a lot more comfortable with a UL Listed battery when I keep my bike in my home. Maybe the Avinox 2027 MY will include a properly certified battery?
sethimus
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i rather have my home country certify them. your safe for consumption food tells all
You know, you can ride the standard bike and not worry about the battery
100%! The UL listing is something most people do not know about. I'd never use a charger (even a phone charger) or battery with no UL listing, and especially not one on an ebike....those things have burned down garages and homes than any EV could.
Sounds as you're in the wrong forum. If you're so worried about the above, eBike is definitely not for you.
That's the same as "I want to drive a car, but I'm concerned I'll get in the accident on the road".
Some things in life unfortunately come with "things can happen". Whether you're okay with it or not, is a different story. In case of the car above, just take public transportation. And in case of the bike with the battery, just ride standard analog bike.
I'm open to other trusted organizations' testing. Does your home country certify Amflow batteries as safe?
You're missing the point. If you're already shopping for eMTB or a car, it's common sense to discount models that aren't as safe as others.
BTW- My Levo battery is UL Listed.
I am ABSOLUTELY in the right forum. I have owned many ebikes...ALL are UL listed and not had any issues. In fact, bikes shops here will not even service e-bikes that are not from major brands and UL listed chargers and batteries. Some will not even service ANY ebike and if they do, they will not store them overnight. This is a matter of not wanting to spend the money and time to have things tested. It is similar to CE certifications and other certification for bike helmets. I refuse to take risks that are unnecessary and especially with electronic items that can overheat and cause fires. No thanks! I have superior options, will take those, and now even warn about Amflow not being UL certified. I'm part of a trail club of almost 700 riders. While a minority ride eMTBs, we talk about them often, and I am glad this was brought up. I had no idea that Amflow batteries were not UL listed. I am now also assuming that their chargers are not.
You know there was a recall at one point on specialized bikes due to a few reported fires….
Tested or not, lithium batteries can catch fire especially when not treated properly by the owner. Zero confirmed Avinox fires so far. That video was fake man. Video with zero story behind it and totally unconfirmed.
I believe Specialized only started using UL Listed batteries in 2025 MY bikes. Perhaps you're mentioning a reason why they moved to them?
I think I need to post this in the largest US MTB forum (500,000 members at least on MTBR.com) so people are better informed. I made an assumption that ebike batteries and chargers sold in the US were UL listed but obviously not. Given the number os ebike charger/battery related fires, this should be a big deal for people to consider.
On every charger I have (especially ebikes) I monitor how warm the charger and downtube get the first few times and I no longer leave them charging if leaving home or going to bed. I set an alarm so I do not forget and go to bed. The last thing I need is to burn down my house and family. I do not have an EV yet but I will do the same when I get one. Thanks for whomever brought up the UL listing point.
On every charger I have (especially ebikes) I monitor how warm the charger and downtube get the first few times and I no longer leave them charging if leaving home or going to bed. I set an alarm so I do not forget and go to bed. The last thing I need is to burn down my house and family. I do not have an EV yet but I will do the same when I get one. Thanks for whomever brought up the UL listing point.
