Lightcarbon LCES004 (Dengfu E10 alternative in USA)

[patdam]

I have shared in 3Dprint thread the file recovered

DIY bike 3D print files

I propose to open this tread to share our .stl files for 3D printer. We can mention in first: Destination: exemple: "E10 frame" Function: exemple: "display DPC860C frame mount" And we insert the file.stl (named.pdf to upload) + .jpeg if it is not perfect but functional (those can help...

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[PH1L1PP3]

I have shared in 3Dprint thread the file recovered

DIY bike 3D print files

I propose to open this tread to share our .stl files for 3D printer. We can mention in first: Destination: exemple: "E10 frame" Function: exemple: "display DPC860C frame mount" And we insert the file.stl (named.pdf to upload) + .jpeg if it is not perfect but functional (those can help...

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Thanks, That the one I already got

 

[PH1L1PP3]

Pas génial pour prendre des photos (ou peindre au pistolet, car je n'avais plus de filament noir), mais voici une version de travail adaptée à mon vélo

J'ai modifié la couverture pour qu'elle soit correcte depuis l'impression de ma version car j'ai remarqué que la courbure d'ouverture n'est pas symétrique, mais elle tient toujours bien telle quelle dans ma version et je ne veux pas passer encore 8h à l'imprimer correctement.
Dans les fichiers, vous remarquerez l'espace pour enfoncer des écrous M4 (chauffés avec un fer à souder) et ils se fixent au cadre avec des vis M4 d'une longueur d'environ 13-15 mm. Il y a aussi un boulon M6, juste vissé dans la "lèvre" de retenue supérieure, de sorte qu'il peut être manipulé de l'extérieur en verrouillant le couvercle, avant d'être vissé dans les trous du cadre.

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Well done ! @merc123123
I took the liberty of making your file available in the post dedicated to 3D printing files.
Being a complete noob in 3D printing, I'm going to have to find a guy or a shop that has a big enough 3D printer
Could you please let me know the quantity needed to print the cover, and the recommended wire diameter.
I don't want any "garbage" on the frame, so I guess to print a quality cover, the best should be to use ABS/Carbon!?
I checked the price...
Having to call on a third party, it will certainly cost more than 150€!!!
I continue to investigate, but I think I will forget the LCES004 and resign myself to the E10 which is delivered with the cover and the battery support for the same price...

 

[PH1L1PP3]

also have the brother modle fat EMTB frame LCE18

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Still wondering which frame to order!

Again, I'm seduced by vertical shock design and LCES004 would be the right candidate if there were not the battery housing cover issue.

I have ordered the M510. It should be shipped within 10 days and the time it arrives I have time to torture my brain (May be you too) about the frame

I discovered the LCE28 can fit the M510 so I made a geometry comparison with the LCES004;
I am not a bike geometry expert at all. Could, the who knows, help me telling me if the LCE28 could be a good alternative?

BT F25 fit and empty case available is the first advantage.

Almost +0,600gr, not really an advantage.

What about the geometry comparison, please:

 

[merc123123]

Well done ! @merc123123
I took the liberty of making your file available in the post dedicated to 3D printing files.
Being a complete noob in 3D printing, I'm going to have to find a guy or a shop that has a big enough 3D printer
Could you please let me know the quantity needed to print the cover, and the recommended wire diameter.
I don't want any "garbage" on the frame, so I guess to print a quality cover, the best should be to use ABS/Carbon!?
I checked the price...
Having to call on a third party, it will certainly cost more than 150€!!!
I continue to investigate, but I think I will forget the LCES004 and resign myself to the E10 which is delivered with the cover and the battery support for the same price...

That is a very expensive quote I think. My cover cost me about 4€ in material and 8h print time (Anycubic Chiron), it weighs in at around 150g with all the elements, but as I said, it is only to cover the hole in the frame not to hold the battery the full weight of the battery. I am not sure 3d printing a cover is going to be up to the task of holding the battery, not strong enough in my experience of 3d printing. For light road use maybe, but not for enduro.

I used PTEG, 0.6mm nozzle, 0.32mm layer height with 3 bottom and 2 top layers, and 7 outer layers, 10% infill.

For holding the battery I am using 2 velcro straps attached to a metal plate I found, drilled 2 holes in it, and attached it to the 2 threads inside the frame (bottle screws). I also packed my soft case battery tight with some foam inside. Feels very solid and there is space for the cables between the metal plate and the frame so no problems there. Takes around 2 minutes to remove the battery. I will take some pictures next time I remove it to show how it works, but I think you get the idea

 

[PH1L1PP3]

That is a very expensive quote I think. My cover cost me about 4€ in material and 8h print time (Anycubic Chiron), it weighs in at around 150g with all the elements, but as I said, it is only to cover the hole in the frame not to hold the battery the full weight of the battery. I am not sure 3d printing a cover is going to be up to the task of holding the battery, not strong enough in my experience of 3d printing. For light road use maybe, but not for enduro.

I used PTEG, 0.6mm nozzle, 0.32mm layer height with 3 bottom and 2 top layers, and 7 outer layers, 10% infill.

For holding the battery I am using 2 velcro straps attached to a metal plate I found, drilled 2 holes in it, and attached it to the 2 threads inside the frame (bottle screws). I also packed my soft case battery tight with some foam inside. Feels very solid and there is space for the cables between the metal plate and the frame so no problems there. Takes around 2 minutes to remove the battery. I will take some pictures next time I remove it to show how it works, but I think you get the idea

You get a large 3D printer
I don't get 3D printer and looking for a third party. The material is around 40€ and 08:00 of printing won't be free
2 friends got too little printer.
Thanks for the technical information. Which wire diameter did you used?

 

[merc123123]

You get a large 3D printer
I don't get 3D printer and looking for a third party. The material is around 40€ and 08:00 of printing won't be free
2 friends got too little printer.
Thanks for the technical information. Which wire diameter did you used?

It was 4€ not 40€, for the material, 1kg filament roll cost around 22€. I would offer to print it for you but don't really have the time for that now.
By wire diameter, do you mean filament diameter? Standard 1.75mm

 

[PH1L1PP3]

It was 4€ not 40€, for the material, 1kg filament roll cost around 22€. I would offer to print it for you but don't really have the time for that now.
By wire diameter, do you mean filament diameter? Standard 1.75mm

Yes I meant the filament, sorry
I'm from France and prices increase for everythings!
Fil ASA FormFutura - ApolloX 1.75 mm Noir 750g

 

[LD-Hansen]

Found a guy on facebook that managed to get a consumer battery fitted to the LCES004 frame.
He does not give much information, but its 48v 840wh.
Trying to figure out where he bought it, does anyone here now where to get that?
Is it the Dengfu E10 battery maybe?

 

[patdam]

Hi. does somebody use this frame in "mulet" 27.5 rear and 29 front ? does they have compensate the geometry with longer rear shock ? with what ? wich BB height result ? thanks for your help

 

[Slaine]

Hi. does somebody use this frame in "mulet" 27.5 rear and 29 front ? does they have compensate the geometry with longer rear shock ? with what ? wich BB height result ? thanks for your help

I bought mullet package wheel and I reicive them on march

 

[patdam]

I bought mullet package wheel and I reicive them on march

how you doing to compensate wheels height differences ?

 

[Slaine]

how you doing to compensate wheels height differences ?

No change because I ride this bike today with full 29" with 160mm fork and 64 degrees head angles. My plan is to down fork to 150mm and 65 degrees with mullet wheels

 

[Deko]

done "The uploaded file is too large", i sent the .zip to wendy

Can you show me photos of your implementation of this cover, fasteners and everything else?

 

[patdam]

Can you show me photos of your implementation of this cover, fasteners and everything else?

sorry but i leaved down all my light carbon frames. untrusted company, for my opinion.

 

[Bikerchef1]

Yep...LC is more of a copy-cat open mold company, they seem not to be able make changes quickly and take outside consumer feedback. On the other hand, Dengfu does! But look at the Luna Cycles influence in the US and RobRides European influence for the E10. I have their fs fat bike E06 with the big M620. Dengfu appears to be taking input from outside influencers better than most Chinese companies. But I like the LC trunnion suspension linkage. Trek Rail clone call it Local Trek dealers luv me

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Hey Buddy,I realise this is an old thread but im wondering if you could share some info on your rig.There is 1 for sale pretty much identical to your here in australia and im quite tempted.My concern is durability( I ride hard and like to jump) and weight? I imagine it must be about 60lbs?!The one for sale a few hours for me is going for 2500(about 1800 US) australian and only has about 600kms on it,that are city kms as I know the area and he has it decked out for commuting.Any info on how it rides,reliability etc would be very much appreciated.It looks Killer! I have a lenz Fatillac that was hand made in the states which i love,but wanting to get an e version as well as I have many kms of large sandunes 5 minutes from where i live

 

[merc123123]

I can vouch for this frame. I am lucky that I have great enduro focused trails next to my house and I have been using it very extensively almost every sunny day for the past 3 years and it survived a lot of crashes and the like. It has a few scratches in the paint but it has held up surprisingly well, no cracks for now . Sometimes it gives off some small creaking noises, but probably some bearings need replacement. I had to replace the rear axle that snapped, and the motor plate sustained a big hit once that broke it (replaced) but also broke off the carbon near the mounting screw at the bottom (small piece that holds the screw threads for the protection plate). I epoxied that in place and it has held for over a year. All in all given my 105kg riding weight, I am very impressed and it has given me many good memories. I will be retiring it at the end of the season because i want a new one (dengfu e82).

 

[Bikerchef1]

I personally did not have any issues with this frame, i have been using it quite extensivly for

I personally did not have any issues with this frame, i have been using it quite extensivly for

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I can vouch for this frame. I am lucky that I have great enduro focused trails next to my house and I have been using it very extensively almost every sunny day for the past 3 years and it survived a lot of crashes and the like. It has a few scratches in the paint but it has held up surprisingly well, no cracks for now . Sometimes it gives off some small creaking noises, but probably some bearings need replacement. I had to replace the rear axle that snapped, and the motor plate sustained a big hit once that broke it (replaced) but also broke off the carbon near the mounting screw at the bottom (small piece that holds the screw threads for the protection plate). I epoxied that in place and it has held for over a year. All in all given my 105kg riding weight, I am very impressed and it has given me many good memories. I will be retiring it at the end of the season because i want a new one (dengfu e82).View attachment 185366

Ah but your on the longer travel dengfu160mm rear travel? Markhor/ Dengfu( Volition is what this open mold model goes by here in Australia) f I was asking about the e6 fat bike version with 120mm rear suspension. That is whats been sold near me

 

[merc123123]

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Ah but your on the longer travel dengfu160mm rear travel? Markhor/ Dengfu( Volition is what this open mold model goes by here in Australia) f I was asking about the e6 fat bike version with 120mm rear suspension. That is whats been sold near me

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Sorry I thought you were asking about the Light Carbon LCES004

 

[Bikerchef1]

Sorry I thought you were asking about the Light Carbon LCES004

All good buddy. It's good to hear some real world input on the ability amd durability of these frames. I've looked at them many times but was worried about reliability because most of the sites selling them on ebay or alibaba have the vaguest and mismatched descriptions when it comes to sizing weight and components. It's like the just throw a word salad together with random bike part names!

 

[merc123123]

All good buddy. It's good to hear some real world input on the ability amd durability of these frames. I've looked at them many times but was worried about reliability because most of the sites selling them on ebay or alibaba have the vaguest and mismatched descriptions when it comes to sizing weight and components. It's like the just throw a word salad together with random bike part names!

Yeah I know what you mean, but on facebook groups:
BAFANG G510/M620 AND M630 MOTOR GROUP
and even more on the:
Bafang M500, M510, M560, M600, and M820 Users Group

There is a lot of good info and people are using them properly. I just recently built a Dengfu e05 i got for a very good price for my wife and she is enjoying it, but it won' t be used that hard. I did hear there are some problems with the linkage snapping on the e05/ e06, so take that in consideration, the new ones from Dengfu are much better, the e05/ e06 is an old design from 2019.