Lightcarbon LCES004 (Dengfu E10 alternative in USA)

Thediesel233

Member
May 11, 2021
25
20
Cali
Hey y'all,

Does anyone have experience with this frame? Looks to be closest to the Dengfu E10 frame geometry wise.


65.5 degree has tube angle, and 75 degree seat tube angle. Only drawbacks I see are a slightly shorter reach than the E10, and less clearance for a wide 29er rear tire.

This may be a great alternative for those of us in the USA that cant get our hands on the E10.

Lightcarbon quoted me at $740 (waiting on a shipping estimate). They will not paint the frame unless you buy a minimum 20 frames. So we're stuck with matte UD.
 

ISHI

Member
Apr 9, 2020
10
14
Brazil
Excellent supplier tip, but I believe the other problem is the battery, as these frames only support the BT F03 battery from BAFANG and the ideal would be to support a battery with more autonomy like the BT F25 of 820wh.
 

Thediesel233

Member
May 11, 2021
25
20
Cali
Thank you for pointing that out. Any ideas on what the range difference would be with a 600wh vs 820wh battery?

They also quoted shipping at $250 to California.

Has anyone managed to get the e10 in the US?
 

Mike Harper

New Member
May 23, 2021
5
3
San Juan Capistrano, Ca.
Hey y'all,

Does anyone have experience with this frame? Looks to be closest to the Dengfu E10 frame geometry wise.


65.5 degree has tube angle, and 75 degree seat tube angle. Only drawbacks I see are a slightly shorter reach than the E10, and less clearance for a wide 29er rear tire.

This may be a great alternative for those of us in the USA that cant get our hands on the E10.

Lightcarbon quoted me at $740 (waiting on a shipping estimate). They will not paint the frame unless you buy a minimum 20 frames. So we're stuck with matte UD.
This does not use the Bafang M620 1000W motor so it's not like the Dengfu E10 frame. It uses the smaller M600 motor.
 

thaeber

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Jan 26, 2021
875
765
Bruchsal, Germany
You can ask Melody for the E22 frame that fits Bafang M620 engine. This is comparable to the E10 design, but shorter Reach and slacker seat Angle.
 
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Dirtnvert

E*POWAH Elite World Champion
Sep 25, 2018
1,352
1,600
BC Canada
Surprised how good the geo is. Not a ton of SO but not bad. Id like a coil but for that price i could pick a top air shock and get it tuned and still hzve an amazing deal. If they ship to the US , i giess Cansda as well. Interested to see how the builds go with this. Good find!
 

JuanC

New Member
Jun 26, 2021
5
0
Chile
Hey y'all,

Does anyone have experience with this frame? Looks to be closest to the Dengfu E10 frame geometry wise.


65.5 degree has tube angle, and 75 degree seat tube angle. Only drawbacks I see are a slightly shorter reach than the E10, and less clearance for a wide 29er rear tire.

This may be a great alternative for those of us in the USA that cant get our hands on the E10.

Lightcarbon quoted me at $740 (waiting on a shipping estimate). They will not paint the frame unless you buy a minimum 20 frames. So we're stuck with matte UD.

Hello, do you have any news? How did it turn out? Tell us how is going your build.
 

KaroKönig

Well-known member
Feb 10, 2021
234
502
Germany
My LCES 004 frame came 3 weeks ago and is very well made. The Trunnion mount for the damper limits the choice a bit, but is very stable
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JuanC

New Member
Jun 26, 2021
5
0
Chile
Nice! What are your plans with this bike? Your Dengfu is a beast! Are you going to build your own batteries?
 

JuanC

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Chile

KaroKönig

Well-known member
Feb 10, 2021
234
502
Germany
That is really amazing (and way beyond my skills jaja). I’m considering this frame with a m600 motor and a BTF04 battery.
What size is the shock you installed? Are you going for 29/27.5/mullet configuration?
The shock dimensions are 185x55 and I use 29" front and rear because of the 180mm fork. I change the steering angle to 64 degrees
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JuanC

New Member
Jun 26, 2021
5
0
Chile
The shock dimensions are 185x55 and I use 29" front and rear because of the 180mm fork. I change the steering angle to 64 degrees
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Thanks! I got in touch with Lightcarbon. Let’s see how it goes…
You have built other bikes, what do you think of the quality of this frame? I will use some 27.5 wheels that I already have, do you have any recommendations for the size of the fork?
 

KaroKönig

Well-known member
Feb 10, 2021
234
502
Germany
Thanks! I got in touch with Lightcarbon. Let’s see how it goes…
You have built other bikes, what do you think of the quality of this frame? I will use some 27.5 wheels that I already have, do you have any recommendations for the size of the fork?
The 3 frames that I have ordered from China so far were all very well made. Depending on the intended use, I would choose a fork with 160 to 170mm of travel
 

savas

Member
Oct 16, 2018
137
57
sofia
Hi Karokoenig,
nice build.So you are competing with Rotwild ;).
What is the weight of the battery and where did you buy the motor-light carbon?
Greets
sava
 

savas

Member
Oct 16, 2018
137
57
sofia
Hi Karokoenig

i have wrote them 3 days ago but no one is answering.Do you have a contact there?What was the shipping price and customs?How long did it take?
I want to buy the m800 and do the same mod as you.
And how do you stabilize the battery in the frame with velcro?
Greets
Sava
 

Sandur-Rx

Member
Sep 11, 2021
55
20
Holland
Anyone else here with this frame and a non bafang battery? I want to use a 48v engine so the bafang bt f04 600w 43v battery I have wil not be usable for me anymore. But I’m not sure how I’m going to mount the new battery. Love to see how others did this.
 

KaroKönig

Well-known member
Feb 10, 2021
234
502
Germany
Anyone else here with this frame and a non bafang battery? I want to use a 48v engine so the bafang bt f04 600w 43v battery I have wil not be usable for me anymore. But I’m not sure how I’m going to mount the new battery. Love to see how others did this.
You have to make a stable battery cover with which the battery is clamped. Put a little foam in between so that nothing rattles. 42 of 21700 cells fit into the frame.
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Sandur-Rx

Member
Sep 11, 2021
55
20
Holland
I don’t have the skills to build such a nice fitting cover. Yours looks amazing though. Do you just push it against the water bottle mounts? They stick out quite a bit.
 

KaroKönig

Well-known member
Feb 10, 2021
234
502
Germany
I don’t have the skills to build such a nice fitting cover. Yours looks amazing though. Do you just push it against the water bottle mounts? They stick out quite a bit.
Cables and the brake line still run past to the right and left of the threaded sleeves. I glued a thin foam rubber plate on top of this, the battery lies flat on it.
 

JuanC

New Member
Jun 26, 2021
5
0
Chile
Cables and the brake line still run past to the right and left of the threaded sleeves. I glued a thin foam rubber plate on top of this, the battery lies flat on it.
Hi Karokönig, it´s been a while. ¿Can yo tell us how´s been your experience with this frame? ¿How does it ride? I have a very specific question ¿What rear shock mounting gear does it needs to fit Fox shocks?
 

Micro72

New Member
Dec 8, 2021
1
0
Idaho
You have to make a stable battery cover with which the battery is clamped. Put a little foam in between so that nothing rattles. 42 of 21700 cells fit into the frame.
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Thanks for posting your experience with the light carbon 004. I also have the LC 004 and am almost done with my build. I do have to build the battery cover yet. I was just wondering if you would share more information about the hardware you used. Specifically the frame hardware at the top and where you got it/ what is it called.
 

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