Levo Gen 4 Levo Gen 4 Rumours and some facts...

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I've recently emailed my Dealer requesting to reserve or pre-order a Gen 4 Levo. I did not receive any specifics or timeline, but the dealer did direct the staff to reserve a bike for me. I take that to mean it is in fact happening. It would still make sense to me that the reveal would precede or coincide with Sea Otter, April 10-13, 2025.
 
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I've recently emailed my Dealer requesting to reserve or pre-order a Gen 4 Levo. I did not receive any specifics or timeline, but the dealer did direct the staff to reserve a bike for me. I take that to mean it is in fact happening. It would still make sense to me that the reveal would precede or coincide with Sea Otter, April 10-13, 2025.
8-10 April or 10-13 April? The new levo ?
 
Yes the bike is being released in April, my local Spesh shop said they’d have a few around the 4-5th to put on the floor when it’s announced.
 
840 Watt ?
If Specialized has followed the Brose Concept frame criteria, it is likely that the battery will be offered in two sizes , 814W and 632W. The battery should be in removeable form in the dowtube via a small magnetic latch. Not sure about range extender compatibility, but this has been rumored.
This concept is pictured on the following Brose 2023
Eurobike reveal of the Drive 3 Motor using a concept frame for demonstration purposes by Brose.
It was advertised in 2023 that the motor and battery would be licensed to bicycle manufacturer(s) and that the frame design was independent of Brose.

This all works for me, my expectation is that Specialized has refined the new Gen 4 Levo frame to incorporate these motor and battery parameters. This means the Levo hump and sidearm will be gone (allowing for longer seatposts) in a new tidy package, likely resembling the Levo SL/Genie shock/Horst link configuration.
This is of course speculation on my part (I am simply connecting the dots of what is out there), but the design parameters seem to be pretty well dictated by the removable 48v battery and new 15% smaller motor dimensions. The rest is really cosmetic and open to the manufacturer design flair. My hope is that Spec retains the S sizing and that possibly the standover heights, particularly in the S3 model can be further optimized/minimized. I am looking forward to April!
 
I doubt they will use the standard Brose batteries. They have always had their own battery solutions in the past.
 
Curious how long have you had it ,how many miles have you done and problems you have had 🤔 .
I will have had mine for 2 years this April.
'22 Gen 3 expert S4

On second motor (First one sounds like it just broke apart on the inside), replaced under warranty.

On second frame. Found a crack on the frame near the motor. Not impact related, some kind of void or imperfection in the carbon. Spez thought it was weird, wanted to take a look at it. Replace with a murdered-out S-Works under warranty.

That maroon color of my expert frame was kinda hideous to be honest.

Only problems so far, Spez has been a pleasure to work with over the years, especially with warranty considerations.

Absolutely love the bike, ride it 4-7 days a week along with the flexstay Stumpy. I'm 55 and retired, been hardcore MTBing since 1990.

I'm sure the G4 will be cool, but will be hammering my current G3 for years to come.
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I will have had mine for 2 years this April.
'22 Gen 3 expert S4

On second motor (First one sounds like it just broke apart on the inside), replaced under warranty.

On second frame. Found a crack on the frame near the motor. Not impact related, some kind of void or imperfection in the carbon. Spez thought it was weird, wanted to take a look at it. Replace with a murdered-out S-Works under warranty.

That maroon color of my expert frame was kinda hideous to be honest.

Only problems so far, Spez has been a pleasure to work with over the years, especially with warranty considerations.

Absolutely love the bike, ride it 4-7 days a week along with the flexstay Stumpy. I'm 55 and retired, been hardcore MTBing since 1990.

I'm sure the G4 will be cool, but will be hammering my current G3 for years to come.
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Just getting a feel for gen 3. Still motor issues for them as well by the sounds of it. Like you I'm on second Expert frame and 4th motor now .
 
I will have had mine for 2 years this April.
'22 Gen 3 expert S4

On second motor (First one sounds like it just broke apart on the inside), replaced under warranty.

On second frame. Found a crack on the frame near the motor. Not impact related, some kind of void or imperfection in the carbon. Spez thought it was weird, wanted to take a look at it. Replace with a murdered-out S-Works under warranty.

That maroon color of my expert frame was kinda hideous to be honest.

Only problems so far, Spez has been a pleasure to work with over the years, especially with warranty considerations.

Absolutely love the bike, ride it 4-7 days a week along with the flexstay Stumpy. I'm 55 and retired, been hardcore MTBing since 1990.

I'm sure the G4 will be cool, but will be hammering my current G3 for years to come.
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All bike brands will run into problems, big or small and Specialized is up to date the best on handling warranties that's just a fact although it's impossible to please everyone.
Hopefully this will continue.
 
All bike brands will run into problems, big or small and Specialized is up to date the best on handling warranties that's just a fact although it's impossible to please everyone.
Hopefully this will continue.
Yes not so many ebikes in my area that are being used in anger. But the few I know are all on second or third motor.
 
My current 22' Levo Gen 3 also developed a motor problem last fall. I took it to the dealer when I first observed the normal noise getting louder under load. They diagnosed it and did not see it as being worthy of warrantee replacement at that time. The Motor belt gave up about 3 months and less than 175 mi, later. The Dealer determined that it was terminal at that point, and sent it to Specialized for warrrantee replacement. But unfortunately, Specialized determined that it was just past the warrantee period. Specialized wound up replacing the motor under what they termed "assisted replacement". The reduced cost of the new motor was $ 780. Needless to say, I am looking forward to the new beltless motor of the Gen 4 Levo for hopefully improved longevity and reliability.
 
The reduced cost of the new motor was $ 780.
780$ for a belt replacement? That's a crazy amount; I had a friend of mine in a similar situation, but on a Gen2, the belt got destroyed after like 4k km, he bought an aftermarket belt for about 80€ and fixed it himself.
 
780$ for a belt replacement? That's a crazy amount; I had a friend of mine in a similar situation, but on a Gen2, the belt got destroyed after like 4k km, he bought an aftermarket belt for about 80€ and fixed it himself.
New motor, not only belt replacement...
 
... Needless to say, I am looking forward to the new beltless motor of the Gen 4 Levo for hopefully improved longevity and reliability.
I would be looking forward to never buying a specialised product ever again personally... Don't think they treated this fairly at all for a well known design flaw just months out of warranty.


*to be clear, I have had similar experiences with warranties being weaselled out of, it happens all the time, but I wouldn't be rushing back to that manufacturer.
 
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I would be looking forward to never buying a specialised product ever again personally... Don't think they treated this fairly at all for a well known design flaw just months out of warranty.
Lot of people would agree with you. Also a lot of rich people about.
 
….especially as ‘the noise’ was reported inside warranty.
Yes shouldn't have got away with that dealer needs a kicking . One of mine was squealing like a pig. , i was told by my dealer Specialized won't warranty on a noise but keep an eye on it and don't worry . Sure enough it lasted about three weeks and went so so got another one no problem .
 
My current 22' Levo Gen 3 also developed a motor problem last fall. I took it to the dealer when I first observed the normal noise getting louder under load. They diagnosed it and did not see it as being worthy of warrantee replacement at that time. The Motor belt gave up about 3 months and less than 175 mi, later. The Dealer determined that it was terminal at that point, and sent it to Specialized for warrrantee replacement. But unfortunately, Specialized determined that it was just past the warrantee period. Specialized wound up replacing the motor under what they termed "assisted replacement". The reduced cost of the new motor was $ 780. Needless to say, I am looking forward to the new beltless motor of the Gen 4 Levo for hopefully improved longevity and reliability.
This is unacceptable! I'm sure a decent dealer will get this fixed for you under warranty or under a good will, especially when you have reported it within warranty ... Gen2 Levo 2.1 motors even had warranty extended to 4 years due to so many had issues with it, and Gen3 Levos with 2.2 motors are not that much different/better to 2.1 so they still should take care of it for you ...
 
People seem to have different experiences with Specialized dealers. I have so good dealer that it's main reason to buy Specialized. I had only two warranty case, motor and freehub. Both we handled immediately without questions. Motor wasn't even broken, but there was clear evidence that it will be soon (sprag clutch...?) and freehub I maybe broke myself when I dropped it and they changed it anyway, even that I told what happened :D
 
People seem to have different experiences with Specialized dealers. I have so good dealer that it's main reason to buy Specialized. I had only two warranty case, motor and freehub. Both we handled immediately without questions. Motor wasn't even broken, but there was clear evidence that it will be soon (sprag clutch...?) and freehub I maybe broke myself when I dropped it and they changed it anyway, even that I told what happened :D
Yes some dealers are fantastic or have a lot of clout. I got frame replaced headset worn as I used it loose so sent a video. New frame was in dealers shop before they had seen it . Picked up error so put new motor in as well. Posted that 10 times probably so apologies
 
I'm worried, too. My Levo Gen 3 is making a whistling noise, but I can't get any service here in Japan. I'm not sure what I'm going to do. Frustrating position to be in.
 
I'm worried, too. My Levo Gen 3 is making a whistling noise, but I can't get any service here in Japan. I'm not sure what I'm going to do. Frustrating position to be in.
My last one whistled when climbing for about 3 weeks , then one big squeal of pain and it died . Only 7 miles from home on road . Good luck .
 
Wondering why some Tigers 🐅 haven't put the Amflow through its paces. It's ok test pilots but they are probably way more skilled than your average rider who messes up and hits the occasional tree. If you think about it I could ride three times a week Bill two and Bob for two so 200 miles a week Clocked up a few thousand miles on bike by now . So if me you and someone else chips in we could get an Amflow and have a ball. Friday night remember.
 
All bike brands will run into problems, big or small and Specialized is up to date the best on handling warranties that's just a fact although it's impossible to please everyone.
Hopefully this will continue.
Gen 4 bike should / has got to be / I hope it is / a much more reliable bike if that is possible yet ? . If not it's a massive blow to the company ,i wish them well.
 
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