Integralnz
Member
I can't navigate to it on the NZ site. User error on my part for sure. Can you post link pls?It looks like Trek NZ finally has started to update its website. The Fuel+ looks to be launching here in April
Other Gen 2 Trek Fuel + (EXE) Official thread.
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JP-NZ
E*POWAH Elite World Champion
There is still a lot of broken links and no pricing but at least the page is there. April launch I believe
Trek Fuel+: electric trail bikes, now elevated - Trek Bikes (NZ)
The Fuel+ is a wildly adaptable e-MTB with near-silent assist, big range and three geo set-ups to match your style. Built to chase your best rides yet.
Integralnz
Member
Thanks JP. The link comes up as an Australian location, they have had the Fuel + for several months. The information I recieved from my local EVO branch was that the Fuel + was not coming to NZ at this stage. What have you heard?There is still a lot of broken links and no pricing but at least the page is there. April launch I believe
Trek Fuel+: electric trail bikes, now elevated - Trek Bikes (NZ)
The Fuel+ is a wildly adaptable e-MTB with near-silent assist, big range and three geo set-ups to match your style. Built to chase your best rides yet.www.trekbikes.com
JP-NZ
E*POWAH Elite World Champion
The link I posted quite clearly shows its the NZ site and it has NZ in the link.
This is the Australian site that shows models and prices and has AU in the link. Looks like Australia only has the EX though.
Shop Fuel+ – The adaptable mid-power trail e-MTB (AU)
Looking for a trail MTB with natural-feeling assist and a dialled fit for any ride style? Fuel+ delivers three set-ups and endless versatility.
JP-NZ
E*POWAH Elite World Champion
I would say they were correct at that stage. It would be very strange for Trek not to bring them here. Yes the EX-e was a slow seller but most are now sold. When Trek added the Rail+ last year, they updated their webpage in the same way as this before going live.
I'd say within a few weeks we will have pricing and details on models coming to NZ. If you do have trouble seeing it. Go to trek website change your flag in the top right to NZ. Close the window then click on the NZ link I posted above and you should get a page showing the 3 models.
Integralnz
Member
My bad, I was linking into the Oz site. Sorted now
JP-NZ
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Really hope we get the LX as that would be my choice.
En haut
Battman85
Member
Hi All,
Been watching this thread since the Fuel+ was first announced. The minute i saw this bike i knew i had to have it!
I've noticed that not a lot of Fuel+ owners have posted about their bike and experience with it so thought i would chuck up something. Sorry if its a bit too much useless dribble haha. Pics below before my thoughts....
I previously owned a Trek Rail and sold it after less than a year due to just really not enjoying the excess weight of the full power bike, it was just a tank! To me it just felt like it always wanted to go straight and always be upright (didn't like any movement in the air). Didn't feel manoeuvrable, and didn't like to stop... i know that's not everyone's experience with it. But that was mine.
The EXE was of course the 'lighter' ebike option. But i didn't really like the look of it at all, and the small battery turned me off. Just didn't seem like the complete package yet and not worth of shelling out $15k. So i ended up just going back analogue for a couple of years with a 2022 Trek Slash 9.8Xt (bought for a steal with black Friday sale) and loved it, felt like real mountain biking again after the rail. But always kept an eye on the ebike market.
Once the Fuel+ was announced i instantly knew it was the one. Looked Amazing, bigger 580wh battery, more powerful (60nm) and efficient motor, upgraded software and colour screen, new Di2 Drivetrain etc etc. and came in around the 20kg mark (which is where i was hoping to draw the line in terms of weight). Seemed like the perfect bike for what i wanted.
Unfortunately in Australia we were left with the EX being the only option due to shipping constraints Etc. So i wasn't able to do project one or anything like that, or even buy an MX off the shelf. So i bought the EX 9.8XT Di2 in the Black/Gray marble effect colour and converted "from factory" through the local Trek Dealer i bought it from to an MX (mullet) version, upgrading to the newly released carbon Line Pro wheels at the same time. So it did cost extra in parts to do the rocker/shock linkages to MX, as well as changed the 150mm fork to 160mm. But its what i wanted so just went ahead and did it. Sold the aluminium wheels to recoup some money. So, its now running as a Legit MX 160/150 setup. And i freaking LOVE it! Total cost after selling the original wheels is little under $15k Aus.
I got the bike mid November and have put a couple of hundred KM's on it now at my local trails. Right form the very first ride the bike felt amazing! Light enough to feel almost analogue, powerful enough to get you up the hill really quick while also still getting the heart pumping and feeling like you're getting a workout still (which is what i wanted). Rides amazing on the downhills, feels great on the flow trails and handles the techy chunder with ease. It honestly feels like the perfect bike to me. And at NO point on any ride heading down a trail have i thought to myself that it felt "heavy" or had any issues at all with the weight or manoeuvrability of the bike. Legitimately feels analogue on the downhill (well to me anyway when comparing with the Rail that i hated the feeling of) but then pedals up with ease, absolutely flying past anyone on analogue bike (but still slower than guys on full fat ebikes of course).
It took me a few rides to get the suspension setup feeling nice, especially the fork. The new 2026 Fox Factory 36 is AMAZING and buttery and i love it, but initially i just couldn't get it to use all the travel. I was finishing every ride with the indicator ring sitting like 25mm from bottom out (running recommended settings). So bit by bit i lowered the psi until it felt amazing and was using the available travel without any bottom out issues or whatever. I have actually ended up nearly 20psi lower than recommended, which is something ive heard is kind of common with the fox forks. As the psi got lower i tweaked the rebound and compression also to get it feeling nice. Now im happy with it, it feels just amazing to ride.
I'm also loving the XT Di2 drivetrain and shifting. First time using electronic shifting and its been awesome. nice direct and fast shifts, the triggers feel great and "analogue" like, also love how a light touch on the trigger will change one gear but a harder press will do 2 gears, or you can just hold the trigger down and it'll just keep shifting across. Really loving how Shimano went with that design rather than the buttons on the Sram stuff. You definitely do get a bit of a "clunk" noise from the chain from time to time as it moves between the cogs, but it isnt really something i care about and i figure it is partly due to brand new chain/sprockets which have the sharp edges and will probably die off over time as they wear in.
In terms of efficiency and range, its been amazing. A typical ride for me at my local is about 2hrs, with about 20km or riding and about 700m of vertical climb, ALL done in the HIGH power setting (dont bother with ECO or MID). And im coming home from each ride having used basically 50% battery. Meaning a full charge for me would do about 4hrs/40km/1400m vert. Which i think is more than enough for most riders. So very happy with that and have had NO range anxiety. You also have the option of putting the smaller 360wh battery in to save weight, or adding the range extender. So definitely options there for most riders.
The only "aftermarket" changes i have made to the bike are basically cosmetic, in wanting to have a bit of a black/grey theme to tie in with the marble effect on the paint. I went with a Grey TITLE stem and seat post clamp, grey OneUp flat pedals, Grey PNW XL grips and then also did some custom Grey fox decals on the forks from SLIK Graphics. As well as full Ride Wrap on the bike to keep it protected. I think it looks absolutely amazing, and rides just as well.
Some other things to note are:
- Running DH casing tyres as i fuken hate getting flats and felt the extra weight was worth it if it stopped pinch flats. Which so far it has, had a number of moments where i felt i for sure would have got a flat on a different casing tyre but rode out of it fine
-Upgraded to 220mm rotors for extra stopping power "just cos" basically. The 203mm XT were absolutely doing the job. But just did the upgrade as it was a cheap way to get even more power on tap.
- Weight of the bike as it sits with tubeless DH casing, pedals on, 160mm fork etc is sitting at 20.9kg which is slightly over my goal of "not getting a 20kg+" bike. But as described earlier the weight really hasn't bothered me at ALL. Such a huge difference in feel between it and the 25kg+ Rail for me.
When i bought this bike i fully intended on having the 2 bikes, using the Fuel+ for all my local self shutting trail riding. And then keeping my Slash to use for shuttle days and chair lifted riding in Thredbo which is something i do each year. But after getting this bike and taking both to Thredbo i ended up selling the Slash. I rode both bikes back to back on the same day for comparison while down there and honestly this bike was so capable and similar in feel to the Slash (but with the added benefit of having the pedal power on tap out of corners and on small uphill bits) that i sold the slash after i got home. This bike just felt that good to me that i didnt see the point in having the slash. Given that the Slash was a full carbon analogue weighing sub 15kg, in the back to back riding on trails like thredbo there was of course a slight difference in feeling the weights of the bikes, but even with that they rode so similarly that i was blown away with the Fuel+ and felt the slash wasnt needed anymore as the Fuel+ would just go anywhere i wanted to.
So selling that put some money back in my pocket for a rainy day if i decide to change anything else on the Fuel+, but at the moment i love it and no plans for changes yet. I was considering going 'LX' by putting 170mm Fox38 fork and 65mm stroke shock on to get it to a 170/160mm bike, but its so capable right now that i don't feel the $3k or so investment would be worth it for 10mm more travel.
Anyway, pics of the bike attached. Hope my post has been helpful for someone out there thinking about getting into one. cheers
Been watching this thread since the Fuel+ was first announced. The minute i saw this bike i knew i had to have it!
I've noticed that not a lot of Fuel+ owners have posted about their bike and experience with it so thought i would chuck up something. Sorry if its a bit too much useless dribble haha. Pics below before my thoughts....
I previously owned a Trek Rail and sold it after less than a year due to just really not enjoying the excess weight of the full power bike, it was just a tank! To me it just felt like it always wanted to go straight and always be upright (didn't like any movement in the air). Didn't feel manoeuvrable, and didn't like to stop... i know that's not everyone's experience with it. But that was mine.
The EXE was of course the 'lighter' ebike option. But i didn't really like the look of it at all, and the small battery turned me off. Just didn't seem like the complete package yet and not worth of shelling out $15k. So i ended up just going back analogue for a couple of years with a 2022 Trek Slash 9.8Xt (bought for a steal with black Friday sale) and loved it, felt like real mountain biking again after the rail. But always kept an eye on the ebike market.
Once the Fuel+ was announced i instantly knew it was the one. Looked Amazing, bigger 580wh battery, more powerful (60nm) and efficient motor, upgraded software and colour screen, new Di2 Drivetrain etc etc. and came in around the 20kg mark (which is where i was hoping to draw the line in terms of weight). Seemed like the perfect bike for what i wanted.
Unfortunately in Australia we were left with the EX being the only option due to shipping constraints Etc. So i wasn't able to do project one or anything like that, or even buy an MX off the shelf. So i bought the EX 9.8XT Di2 in the Black/Gray marble effect colour and converted "from factory" through the local Trek Dealer i bought it from to an MX (mullet) version, upgrading to the newly released carbon Line Pro wheels at the same time. So it did cost extra in parts to do the rocker/shock linkages to MX, as well as changed the 150mm fork to 160mm. But its what i wanted so just went ahead and did it. Sold the aluminium wheels to recoup some money. So, its now running as a Legit MX 160/150 setup. And i freaking LOVE it! Total cost after selling the original wheels is little under $15k Aus.
I got the bike mid November and have put a couple of hundred KM's on it now at my local trails. Right form the very first ride the bike felt amazing! Light enough to feel almost analogue, powerful enough to get you up the hill really quick while also still getting the heart pumping and feeling like you're getting a workout still (which is what i wanted). Rides amazing on the downhills, feels great on the flow trails and handles the techy chunder with ease. It honestly feels like the perfect bike to me. And at NO point on any ride heading down a trail have i thought to myself that it felt "heavy" or had any issues at all with the weight or manoeuvrability of the bike. Legitimately feels analogue on the downhill (well to me anyway when comparing with the Rail that i hated the feeling of) but then pedals up with ease, absolutely flying past anyone on analogue bike (but still slower than guys on full fat ebikes of course).
It took me a few rides to get the suspension setup feeling nice, especially the fork. The new 2026 Fox Factory 36 is AMAZING and buttery and i love it, but initially i just couldn't get it to use all the travel. I was finishing every ride with the indicator ring sitting like 25mm from bottom out (running recommended settings). So bit by bit i lowered the psi until it felt amazing and was using the available travel without any bottom out issues or whatever. I have actually ended up nearly 20psi lower than recommended, which is something ive heard is kind of common with the fox forks. As the psi got lower i tweaked the rebound and compression also to get it feeling nice. Now im happy with it, it feels just amazing to ride.
I'm also loving the XT Di2 drivetrain and shifting. First time using electronic shifting and its been awesome. nice direct and fast shifts, the triggers feel great and "analogue" like, also love how a light touch on the trigger will change one gear but a harder press will do 2 gears, or you can just hold the trigger down and it'll just keep shifting across. Really loving how Shimano went with that design rather than the buttons on the Sram stuff. You definitely do get a bit of a "clunk" noise from the chain from time to time as it moves between the cogs, but it isnt really something i care about and i figure it is partly due to brand new chain/sprockets which have the sharp edges and will probably die off over time as they wear in.
In terms of efficiency and range, its been amazing. A typical ride for me at my local is about 2hrs, with about 20km or riding and about 700m of vertical climb, ALL done in the HIGH power setting (dont bother with ECO or MID). And im coming home from each ride having used basically 50% battery. Meaning a full charge for me would do about 4hrs/40km/1400m vert. Which i think is more than enough for most riders. So very happy with that and have had NO range anxiety. You also have the option of putting the smaller 360wh battery in to save weight, or adding the range extender. So definitely options there for most riders.
The only "aftermarket" changes i have made to the bike are basically cosmetic, in wanting to have a bit of a black/grey theme to tie in with the marble effect on the paint. I went with a Grey TITLE stem and seat post clamp, grey OneUp flat pedals, Grey PNW XL grips and then also did some custom Grey fox decals on the forks from SLIK Graphics. As well as full Ride Wrap on the bike to keep it protected. I think it looks absolutely amazing, and rides just as well.
Some other things to note are:
- Running DH casing tyres as i fuken hate getting flats and felt the extra weight was worth it if it stopped pinch flats. Which so far it has, had a number of moments where i felt i for sure would have got a flat on a different casing tyre but rode out of it fine
-Upgraded to 220mm rotors for extra stopping power "just cos" basically. The 203mm XT were absolutely doing the job. But just did the upgrade as it was a cheap way to get even more power on tap.
- Weight of the bike as it sits with tubeless DH casing, pedals on, 160mm fork etc is sitting at 20.9kg which is slightly over my goal of "not getting a 20kg+" bike. But as described earlier the weight really hasn't bothered me at ALL. Such a huge difference in feel between it and the 25kg+ Rail for me.
When i bought this bike i fully intended on having the 2 bikes, using the Fuel+ for all my local self shutting trail riding. And then keeping my Slash to use for shuttle days and chair lifted riding in Thredbo which is something i do each year. But after getting this bike and taking both to Thredbo i ended up selling the Slash. I rode both bikes back to back on the same day for comparison while down there and honestly this bike was so capable and similar in feel to the Slash (but with the added benefit of having the pedal power on tap out of corners and on small uphill bits) that i sold the slash after i got home. This bike just felt that good to me that i didnt see the point in having the slash. Given that the Slash was a full carbon analogue weighing sub 15kg, in the back to back riding on trails like thredbo there was of course a slight difference in feeling the weights of the bikes, but even with that they rode so similarly that i was blown away with the Fuel+ and felt the slash wasnt needed anymore as the Fuel+ would just go anywhere i wanted to.
So selling that put some money back in my pocket for a rainy day if i decide to change anything else on the Fuel+, but at the moment i love it and no plans for changes yet. I was considering going 'LX' by putting 170mm Fox38 fork and 65mm stroke shock on to get it to a 170/160mm bike, but its so capable right now that i don't feel the $3k or so investment would be worth it for 10mm more travel.
Anyway, pics of the bike attached. Hope my post has been helpful for someone out there thinking about getting into one. cheers
ebikerider
Well-known member
Thanks for posting @Battman85
I’ve been on the fence between this and the Slash+
I’ve been on the fence between this and the Slash+
Battman85
Member
I honestly rekon you would be happy with either. Slash is obviously bit more travel and set up for harder knarlier riding if that's what you're into.
The updated 60nm tq motor which has not only more power but is more efficient, definitely is a selling point for the Fuel+ at present moment. BUT with current sale price here in Oz being able to grab a TOP spec slash+ with all the bells and whistles for $10k is enticing if you're on the fence... I would imagine updated Slash+ with the 60nm motor can't be far away though. Who knows maybe they even dial it up a bit more for the new Slash?
Merci beaucoup pour tous ces détails, je suis d'accord avec vous, j'aurai à peu près la même chose mais avec une bobine Zeb/Vivid 170/160 et une batterie 360.Hi All,
Been watching this thread since the Fuel+ was first announced. The minute i saw this bike i knew i had to have it!
I've noticed that not a lot of Fuel+ owners have posted about their bike and experience with it so thought i would chuck up something. Sorry if its a bit too much useless dribble haha. Pics below before my thoughts....
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I previously owned a Trek Rail and sold it after less than a year due to just really not enjoying the excess weight of the full power bike, it was just a tank! To me it just felt like it always wanted to go straight and always be upright (didn't like any movement in the air). Didn't feel manoeuvrable, and didn't like to stop... i know that's not everyone's experience with it. But that was mine.
The EXE was of course the 'lighter' ebike option. But i didn't really like the look of it at all, and the small battery turned me off. Just didn't seem like the complete package yet and not worth of shelling out $15k. So i ended up just going back analogue for a couple of years with a 2022 Trek Slash 9.8Xt (bought for a steal with black Friday sale) and loved it, felt like real mountain biking again after the rail. But always kept an eye on the ebike market.
Once the Fuel+ was announced i instantly knew it was the one. Looked Amazing, bigger 580wh battery, more powerful (60nm) and efficient motor, upgraded software and colour screen, new Di2 Drivetrain etc etc. and came in around the 20kg mark (which is where i was hoping to draw the line in terms of weight). Seemed like the perfect bike for what i wanted.
Unfortunately in Australia we were left with the EX being the only option due to shipping constraints Etc. So i wasn't able to do project one or anything like that, or even buy an MX off the shelf. So i bought the EX 9.8XT Di2 in the Black/Gray marble effect colour and converted "from factory" through the local Trek Dealer i bought it from to an MX (mullet) version, upgrading to the newly released carbon Line Pro wheels at the same time. So it did cost extra in parts to do the rocker/shock linkages to MX, as well as changed the 150mm fork to 160mm. But its what i wanted so just went ahead and did it. Sold the aluminium wheels to recoup some money. So, its now running as a Legit MX 160/150 setup. And i freaking LOVE it! Total cost after selling the original wheels is little under $15k Aus.
I got the bike mid November and have put a couple of hundred KM's on it now at my local trails. Right form the very first ride the bike felt amazing! Light enough to feel almost analogue, powerful enough to get you up the hill really quick while also still getting the heart pumping and feeling like you're getting a workout still (which is what i wanted). Rides amazing on the downhills, feels great on the flow trails and handles the techy chunder with ease. It honestly feels like the perfect bike to me. And at NO point on any ride heading down a trail have i thought to myself that it felt "heavy" or had any issues at all with the weight or manoeuvrability of the bike. Legitimately feels analogue on the downhill (well to me anyway when comparing with the Rail that i hated the feeling of) but then pedals up with ease, absolutely flying past anyone on analogue bike (but still slower than guys on full fat ebikes of course).
It took me a few rides to get the suspension setup feeling nice, especially the fork. The new 2026 Fox Factory 36 is AMAZING and buttery and i love it, but initially i just couldn't get it to use all the travel. I was finishing every ride with the indicator ring sitting like 25mm from bottom out (running recommended settings). So bit by bit i lowered the psi until it felt amazing and was using the available travel without any bottom out issues or whatever. I have actually ended up nearly 20psi lower than recommended, which is something ive heard is kind of common with the fox forks. As the psi got lower i tweaked the rebound and compression also to get it feeling nice. Now im happy with it, it feels just amazing to ride.
I'm also loving the XT Di2 drivetrain and shifting. First time using electronic shifting and its been awesome. nice direct and fast shifts, the triggers feel great and "analogue" like, also love how a light touch on the trigger will change one gear but a harder press will do 2 gears, or you can just hold the trigger down and it'll just keep shifting across. Really loving how Shimano went with that design rather than the buttons on the Sram stuff. You definitely do get a bit of a "clunk" noise from the chain from time to time as it moves between the cogs, but it isnt really something i care about and i figure it is partly due to brand new chain/sprockets which have the sharp edges and will probably die off over time as they wear in.
En termes d'efficacité et d'autonomie, c'est tout simplement incroyable. Une sortie typique sur mon parcours habituel dure environ 2 heures, avec une distance d'environ 20 km et un dénivelé positif d'environ 700 m, le tout en mode puissance ÉLEVÉE (inutile d'utiliser les modes ECO ou MID). À chaque fois, il me reste environ 50 % de batterie. Cela signifie qu'une charge complète me permet de rouler pendant environ 4 heures, de parcourir 40 km et de cumuler 1 400 m de dénivelé. Ce qui est largement suffisant pour la plupart des cyclistes. J'en suis donc très content et je n'ai jamais eu peur de manquer d'autonomie. On peut également opter pour la batterie plus petite de 360 Wh pour gagner du poids, ou ajouter le prolongateur d'autonomie. Il y a donc vraiment des options pour la plupart des cyclistes.
Les seules modifications que j'ai apportées à mon vélo sont essentiellement esthétiques : je souhaitais une dominante noire et grise pour s'harmoniser avec l'effet marbré de la peinture. J'ai opté pour une potence et un collier de selle TITLE gris, des pédales plates OneUp grises, des poignées PNW XL grises et j'ai également appliqué des autocollants Fox gris personnalisés sur la fourche, de chez SLIK Graphics. J'ai aussi recouvert le vélo d'un film de protection Ride Wrap. Je trouve le résultat absolument magnifique, et le vélo est tout aussi agréable à piloter.
Voici quelques autres points à noter :
J'utilise des pneus DH car je déteste les crevaisons et je pensais que le poids supplémentaire valait le coup si ça évitait les crevaisons par pincement. Et pour l'instant, c'est le cas : j'ai eu plusieurs moments où j'étais sûr de crever avec un autre type de pneu, mais je m'en suis sorti sans problème.
J'ai installé des disques de 220 mm pour un freinage plus puissant, un peu par simple curiosité. Les disques XT de 203 mm étaient largement suffisants, mais j'ai opté pour cette solution car c'était un moyen économique d'obtenir encore plus de puissance.
Le poids du vélo, équipé de pneus tubeless DH, de pédales, d'une fourche de 160 mm, etc., est de 20,9 kg , ce qui dépasse légèrement mon objectif de ne pas dépasser les 20 kg. Mais comme je l'ai dit, ce poids ne m'a absolument pas gêné. La différence de sensations avec mon ancien Rail de plus de 25 kg est flagrante.
Quand j'ai acheté ce vélo, je comptais bien en avoir deux : utiliser le Fuel+ pour toutes mes sorties sur les sentiers locaux (sans navette) et garder mon Slash pour les journées de ski hors-piste à Thredbo, ce que je fais chaque année. Mais après avoir reçu ce vélo et emmené les deux à Thredbo, j'ai finalement vendu le Slash. J'ai testé les deux vélos l'un après l'autre le même jour pour les comparer, et honnêtement, ce vélo était tellement performant et offrait des sensations similaires au Slash (avec en plus l'avantage d'avoir une bonne puissance de pédalage en sortie de virage et dans les petites montées) que j'ai vendu le Slash dès mon retour. Ce vélo me convenait tellement que je ne voyais plus l'intérêt de garder le Slash. Étant donné que le Slash était un modèle entièrement en carbone pesant moins de 15 kg, lors de nos essais successifs sur des sentiers comme Thredbo, il y avait bien sûr une légère différence de sensation de poids entre les deux vélos, mais malgré cela, leur comportement était tellement similaire que j'ai été bluffé par le Fuel+ et j'ai senti que le Slash n'était plus nécessaire car le Fuel+ pouvait aller partout où je le voulais.
La vente m'a permis de récupérer un peu d'argent pour les imprévus, au cas où je déciderais de modifier d'autres éléments de mon Fuel+. Mais pour l'instant, j'en suis ravi et je n'ai pas l'intention d'y apporter de changements. J'avais envisagé de passer en version « LX » en installant une fourche Fox38 de 170 mm et un amortisseur de 65 mm de débattement pour obtenir un débattement de 170/160 mm, mais il est tellement performant actuellement que je ne pense pas qu'un investissement d'environ 3 000 $ soit justifié pour gagner seulement 10 mm de débattement.
Bref, voici des photos de la moto. J'espère que mon message aura été utile à ceux qui envisagent d'en acheter une. À bientôt !
je hope to be near 20.5 kgs with scwalbe magic mary , gravity on the rear and super trail on the front ...not sure beacuse I I will mount dt swiss ex 511 aluminium wheels so not carbone like you
Battman85
Member
I think going the 360wh battery with a 170/160 setup would actually be a great way to go if you didn't need massive range. Pretty much every ride I've done so far would be capable with the 360wh, although not having the range anxiety with the 580wh is a nice feeling.... So the extra capability of the zeb/vivid while still keeping the weight down woild be a sweet setup for sure
Rockhopper70
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Looks mint that, enjoy.
ebikerider
Well-known member
60Nm Slash is available now. I reckon there’s an updated one coming with a more powerful motor.
happy to hear that 220mm rotors can fit on the rear too ( they said 203mm max on the trek website)Hi All,
Been watching this thread since the Fuel+ was first announced. The minute i saw this bike i knew i had to have it!
I've noticed that not a lot of Fuel+ owners have posted about their bike and experience with it so thought i would chuck up something. Sorry if its a bit too much useless dribble haha. Pics below before my thoughts....
View attachment 179733
View attachment 179734
View attachment 179731
I previously owned a Trek Rail and sold it after less than a year due to just really not enjoying the excess weight of the full power bike, it was just a tank! To me it just felt like it always wanted to go straight and always be upright (didn't like any movement in the air). Didn't feel manoeuvrable, and didn't like to stop... i know that's not everyone's experience with it. But that was mine.
The EXE was of course the 'lighter' ebike option. But i didn't really like the look of it at all, and the small battery turned me off. Just didn't seem like the complete package yet and not worth of shelling out $15k. So i ended up just going back analogue for a couple of years with a 2022 Trek Slash 9.8Xt (bought for a steal with black Friday sale) and loved it, felt like real mountain biking again after the rail. But always kept an eye on the ebike market.
Once the Fuel+ was announced i instantly knew it was the one. Looked Amazing, bigger 580wh battery, more powerful (60nm) and efficient motor, upgraded software and colour screen, new Di2 Drivetrain etc etc. and came in around the 20kg mark (which is where i was hoping to draw the line in terms of weight). Seemed like the perfect bike for what i wanted.
Unfortunately in Australia we were left with the EX being the only option due to shipping constraints Etc. So i wasn't able to do project one or anything like that, or even buy an MX off the shelf. So i bought the EX 9.8XT Di2 in the Black/Gray marble effect colour and converted "from factory" through the local Trek Dealer i bought it from to an MX (mullet) version, upgrading to the newly released carbon Line Pro wheels at the same time. So it did cost extra in parts to do the rocker/shock linkages to MX, as well as changed the 150mm fork to 160mm. But its what i wanted so just went ahead and did it. Sold the aluminium wheels to recoup some money. So, its now running as a Legit MX 160/150 setup. And i freaking LOVE it! Total cost after selling the original wheels is little under $15k Aus.
I got the bike mid November and have put a couple of hundred KM's on it now at my local trails. Right form the very first ride the bike felt amazing! Light enough to feel almost analogue, powerful enough to get you up the hill really quick while also still getting the heart pumping and feeling like you're getting a workout still (which is what i wanted). Rides amazing on the downhills, feels great on the flow trails and handles the techy chunder with ease. It honestly feels like the perfect bike to me. And at NO point on any ride heading down a trail have i thought to myself that it felt "heavy" or had any issues at all with the weight or manoeuvrability of the bike. Legitimately feels analogue on the downhill (well to me anyway when comparing with the Rail that i hated the feeling of) but then pedals up with ease, absolutely flying past anyone on analogue bike (but still slower than guys on full fat ebikes of course).
It took me a few rides to get the suspension setup feeling nice, especially the fork. The new 2026 Fox Factory 36 is AMAZING and buttery and i love it, but initially i just couldn't get it to use all the travel. I was finishing every ride with the indicator ring sitting like 25mm from bottom out (running recommended settings). So bit by bit i lowered the psi until it felt amazing and was using the available travel without any bottom out issues or whatever. I have actually ended up nearly 20psi lower than recommended, which is something ive heard is kind of common with the fox forks. As the psi got lower i tweaked the rebound and compression also to get it feeling nice. Now im happy with it, it feels just amazing to ride.
I'm also loving the XT Di2 drivetrain and shifting. First time using electronic shifting and its been awesome. nice direct and fast shifts, the triggers feel great and "analogue" like, also love how a light touch on the trigger will change one gear but a harder press will do 2 gears, or you can just hold the trigger down and it'll just keep shifting across. Really loving how Shimano went with that design rather than the buttons on the Sram stuff. You definitely do get a bit of a "clunk" noise from the chain from time to time as it moves between the cogs, but it isnt really something i care about and i figure it is partly due to brand new chain/sprockets which have the sharp edges and will probably die off over time as they wear in.
En termes d'efficacité et d'autonomie, c'est tout simplement incroyable. Une sortie typique sur mon parcours habituel dure environ 2 heures, avec une distance d'environ 20 km et un dénivelé positif d'environ 700 m, le tout en mode puissance ÉLEVÉE (inutile d'utiliser les modes ECO ou MID). À chaque fois, il me reste environ 50 % de batterie. Cela signifie qu'une charge complète me permet de rouler pendant environ 4 heures, de parcourir 40 km et de cumuler 1 400 m de dénivelé. Ce qui est largement suffisant pour la plupart des cyclistes. J'en suis donc très content et je n'ai jamais eu peur de manquer d'autonomie. On peut également opter pour la batterie plus petite de 360 Wh pour gagner du poids, ou ajouter le prolongateur d'autonomie. Il y a donc vraiment des options pour la plupart des cyclistes.
Les seules modifications que j'ai apportées à mon vélo sont essentiellement esthétiques : je souhaitais une dominante noire et grise pour s'harmoniser avec l'effet marbré de la peinture. J'ai opté pour une potence et un collier de selle TITLE gris, des pédales plates OneUp grises, des poignées PNW XL grises et j'ai également appliqué des autocollants Fox gris personnalisés sur la fourche, de chez SLIK Graphics. J'ai aussi recouvert le vélo d'un film de protection Ride Wrap. Je trouve le résultat absolument magnifique, et le vélo est tout aussi agréable à piloter.
Voici quelques autres points à noter :
J'utilise des pneus DH car je déteste les crevaisons et je pensais que le poids supplémentaire valait le coup si ça évitait les crevaisons par pincement. Et pour l'instant, c'est le cas : j'ai eu plusieurs moments où j'étais sûr de crever avec un autre type de pneu, mais je m'en suis sorti sans problème.
J'ai installé des disques de 220 mm pour un freinage plus puissant, un peu par simple curiosité. Les disques XT de 203 mm étaient largement suffisants, mais j'ai opté pour cette solution car c'était un moyen économique d'obtenir encore plus de puissance.
Le poids du vélo, équipé de pneus tubeless DH, de pédales, d'une fourche de 160 mm, etc., est de 20,9 kg , ce qui dépasse légèrement mon objectif de ne pas dépasser les 20 kg. Mais comme je l'ai dit, ce poids ne m'a absolument pas gêné. La différence de sensations avec mon ancien Rail de plus de 25 kg est flagrante.
Quand j'ai acheté ce vélo, je comptais bien en avoir deux : utiliser le Fuel+ pour toutes mes sorties sur les sentiers locaux (sans navette) et garder mon Slash pour les journées de ski hors-piste à Thredbo, ce que je fais chaque année. Mais après avoir reçu ce vélo et emmené les deux à Thredbo, j'ai finalement vendu le Slash. J'ai testé les deux vélos l'un après l'autre le même jour pour les comparer, et honnêtement, ce vélo était tellement performant et offrait des sensations similaires au Slash (avec en plus l'avantage d'avoir une bonne puissance de pédalage en sortie de virage et dans les petites montées) que j'ai vendu le Slash dès mon retour. Ce vélo me convenait tellement que je ne voyais plus l'intérêt de garder le Slash. Étant donné que le Slash était un modèle entièrement en carbone pesant moins de 15 kg, lors de nos essais successifs sur des sentiers comme Thredbo, il y avait bien sûr une légère différence de sensation de poids entre les deux vélos, mais malgré cela, leur comportement était tellement similaire que j'ai été bluffé par le Fuel+ et j'ai senti que le Slash n'était plus nécessaire car le Fuel+ pouvait aller partout où je le voulais.
La vente m'a permis de récupérer un peu d'argent pour les imprévus, au cas où je déciderais de modifier d'autres éléments de mon Fuel+. Mais pour l'instant, j'en suis ravi et je n'ai pas l'intention d'y apporter de changements. J'avais envisagé de passer en version « LX » en installant une fourche Fox38 de 170 mm et un amortisseur de 65 mm de débattement pour obtenir un débattement de 170/160 mm, mais il est tellement performant actuellement que je ne pense pas qu'un investissement d'environ 3 000 $ soit justifié pour gagner seulement 10 mm de débattement.
Bref, voici des photos de la moto. J'espère que mon message aura été utile à ceux qui envisagent d'en acheter une. À bientôt !
Battman85
Member
Hmm hasn't seen that on the website. I just bought the new rotors and mounting brackets and chucked em on haha
Yobbo
Member
Earlier I mentioned that I had fixed my motor/frame creak by just re-tightening the two motor bolts to factory torque of 20nm. Well it appears that I only fixed 90% of the problem as on the very steepest of hills on full power it still creaked.
So I removed the bolts and examined them carefully. It wasn't immediately apparent what the problem was as bolt shanks were well greased from the factory and no dirt had got in and there was no obvious rubbing. Then I saw it. The underside of the matt black bolt heads were as shiny as a shiny thing on a summers day, almost like chrome. That was where the movement was. I applied a small amount grease around the underside of the motor bolt heads and reassembled and torqued. After four rides including proper steep uphill stuff on full power, all is now silent.
So I removed the bolts and examined them carefully. It wasn't immediately apparent what the problem was as bolt shanks were well greased from the factory and no dirt had got in and there was no obvious rubbing. Then I saw it. The underside of the matt black bolt heads were as shiny as a shiny thing on a summers day, almost like chrome. That was where the movement was. I applied a small amount grease around the underside of the motor bolt heads and reassembled and torqued. After four rides including proper steep uphill stuff on full power, all is now silent.
I also heard that 220mm rotors in the rear may void your warranty (Trek EMTB). However, 220mm is no problem for the front.
My setup for both Treks is 203 rear and 220 front. A smaller rotor diameter for the rear prevents excessive wheel-drag and seems to balance out the modulation feel for both brakes.
A number of us have gone to this setup.
D'autres photos ou un test approfondi du Trek Fuel+, comme celui de @Battman85 ?
La grande taille ne sera pas disponible avant le 11 mai en France… Je dois être patiente.
any cable rattle?
La grande taille ne sera pas disponible avant le 11 mai en France… Je dois être patiente.
any cable rattle?
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JP-NZ
E*POWAH Elite World Champion
The Gen 1 Fuel Ex-e has now been removed from Trek's NZ website. Hoping we see the Fuel+ on there soon
Str1fe
New Member
I've rarely seen so many good reviews and praise for a bike like this new Fuel +. From media tests to users, I even spoke to a guy who owns one on the trails, and he couldn’t be happier. I was really impressed by the motor. It was on my short list along with the Propain Sresh SL (the two bikes are really similar), but the Propain won me over because of its value.
But it seems like the Yeti MTE and the Sresh SL are the winners with the new TQ motor. I don't know why we don’t see or hear more people talking about the Fuel+.
But it seems like the Yeti MTE and the Sresh SL are the winners with the new TQ motor. I don't know why we don’t see or hear more people talking about the Fuel+.
If I didn’t, already, have the Fuel EXE 8 TQ50 motor …it would be the Fuel+ TQ 60 motor with the carbon frame. (Sighs again).
J'ai entendu dire que le Fuel+ est plus efficace que le Yeti avec le même moteur et la même batterie.
Je préfère le Fuel+ au Propain car il est plus polyvalent avec les versions EX, LX et MX, et offre une course de 65 mm pour un débattement accru.
I m waiting for a MX but with 162mm travel .... 30 days to wait
Battman85
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Roaming50
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I've been looking at the LX, and if I ordered now, expected delivery is Sept 3rd. So that's 3-1/2 months. As I look at it it seems to get longer and longer.
I called Trek today to ask what happens if I ordered and spec changed in that time and they stated that these are all built to order and as long as it hasn't gone to fulfillment, then I could still cancel and the 30 day return still comes into place if ordered online or through a Trek store. I had them check current US store inventory and apparently there are no LX 9.9 in size large in the country (at least in the black).
What is holding me back, beyond it being over $11k for the 9.9 build, is that I'm hoping TQ will announce a more powerful motor that slots into this frame over the summer (similar to how the Slash+ got a quiet upgrade from the 50 to the 60) and that it still has 2026 components when all the 2027 shocks and forks from Fox and Rockshox are now available. If you are spending that much you want the latest and greatest....
If we were sure that the new one will be available as soon as it will be present , for sure it s better to wait , but if Trek present it in summer and you have to wait 3 month to have it , you will not ride this summer. I prefer buying this 20206 model and ride it on bikepark this summer .