Red Peekay
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A nice article comparing the Avinox vs the Bosch motors, for what is worth.
Forbidden Druid - Avinox Powered
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jcmonty
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I just placed my order for my flash 35. I’m gonna write that for a while before I decide to do something in the rear so I’m curious how you feel with the hover. It’s down to that or a tellum or work something out with fluid focus as they are about 10 minutes from my house.Finally got my intend hover in. Will need to travel somewhere to try it as there’s snow here nowsaved a whopping 1.65lb over the live valve Neo coil I had on previously.
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Looks great but this thing rides so light no need to get hung up about weightFinally got my intend hover in. Will need to travel somewhere to try it as there’s snow here now
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enjoyI have a EXT Storia shock from a previous bike. Currently it has a 575lb spring which the EXT spring calculator says should give me 30% sag. On the Vivid I’m liking a little less sag than that so I’m thinking I should try 600 or 625lb spring on the Storia. My lbs will lend me some prints to try if I ask nicely 
For a quick change over of shock, what hardware will I need to fit to the Storia? I’ve not had the Vivid out yet so just pre-empting what I need to get prior to Xmas shut down of stores.
For a quick change over of shock, what hardware will I need to fit to the Storia? I’ve not had the Vivid out yet so just pre-empting what I need to get prior to Xmas shut down of stores.
I too like about 25% sag on the druid, feels good with a coil. You will want two sets of the bearings or just take them off the Vivid. You can use two adjustable wrenches (carefully) or use their socket tool.I have a EXT Storia shock from a previous bike. Currently it has a 575lb spring which the EXT spring calculator says should give me 30% sag. On the Vivid I’m liking a little less sag than that so I’m thinking I should try 600 or 625lb spring on the Storia. My lbs will lend me some prints to try if I ask nicely
For a quick change over of shock, what hardware will I need to fit to the Storia? I’ve not had the Vivid out yet so just pre-empting what I need to get prior to Xmas shut down of stores.
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Outdoor_Rider
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First ride in yesterday, I felt eco was okay but the jump to trail was massive. Anyone feel they have some good assistance settings I should try? I lean more towards range than power.
Also can you have mutiple profiles on this system? On my EP8 I had 2 profiles. 1 for max power hour rides and 1 for range.
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Also can you have mutiple profiles on this system? On my EP8 I had 2 profiles. 1 for max power hour rides and 1 for range.
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Highland Wheels
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Just play about and you'll find settings that work for you, think my most powerful setting is still only around 70% of maxFirst ride in yesterday, I felt eco was okay but the jump to trail was massive. Anyone feel they have some good assistance settings I should try? I lean more towards range than power.
Also can you have mutiple profiles on this system? On my EP8 I had 2 profiles. 1 for max power hour rides and 1 for range.
Ed Richardson on Instagram: "New Bike Day 🔥 Forbidden CorE fully finished with @pnwcomponents supplied by the mega crew at @marches_parts_co_ltd. #DJI #djiavinox #forbidden #Emtb #amflow"
160 likes, 19 comments - ed__richardson on December 19, 2025: "New Bike Day 🔥 Forbidden CorE fully finished with @pnwcomponents supplied by the mega crew at @marches_parts_co_ltd. #DJI #djiavinox #forbidden #Emtb #amflow".
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No option of two profiles, I asked Avinox if they would add that to the list of wanted options but nothing yet. It's easy enough to turn it up or down on the screen though
jcmonty
E*POWAH Master
Obviously personal preference but here is what I likeFirst ride in yesterday, I felt eco was okay but the jump to trail was massive. Anyone feel they have some good assistance settings I should try? I lean more towards range than power.
Also can you have mutiple profiles on this system? On my EP8 I had 2 profiles. 1 for max power hour rides and 1 for range.
Ed Richardson on Instagram: "New Bike Day 🔥 Forbidden CorE fully finished with @pnwcomponents supplied by the mega crew at @marches_parts_co_ltd. #DJI #djiavinox #forbidden #Emtb #amflow"
160 likes, 19 comments - ed__richardson on December 19, 2025: "New Bike Day 🔥 Forbidden CorE fully finished with @pnwcomponents supplied by the mega crew at @marches_parts_co_ltd. #DJI #djiavinox #forbidden #Emtb #amflow".
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Eco - 60nm, 400w (not sure on assistance ). Feels like turbo on my Kenevo sl
Auto - 85nm, 650w, 5-10 assistance - what I use 80% of the time. It’s enough unless I am really trying to squeeze a ride in. At 85kg rider weight , I can get in 4-4.5kft and 20-25 miles with the 600wh battery
Trail - 95nm, 850w, 7-11 assistance , mid overrun
I much prefer this to turbo as it’s still controllable and feels like an “auto plus” mode
Turbo is stock for outrunning cars in class 3. Mode on the road
First ride in yesterday, I felt eco was okay but the jump to trail was massive. Anyone feel they have some good assistance settings I should try? I lean more towards range than power.
Also can you have mutiple profiles on this system? On my EP8 I had 2 profiles. 1 for max power hour rides and 1 for range.
Ed Richardson on Instagram: "New Bike Day 🔥 Forbidden CorE fully finished with @pnwcomponents supplied by the mega crew at @marches_parts_co_ltd. #DJI #djiavinox #forbidden #Emtb #amflow"
160 likes, 19 comments - ed__richardson on December 19, 2025: "New Bike Day 🔥 Forbidden CorE fully finished with @pnwcomponents supplied by the mega crew at @marches_parts_co_ltd. #DJI #djiavinox #forbidden #Emtb #amflow".
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This is the settings I am using currently;
| Mode | Power (W) | Torque (Nm) | Assistance Range | Notes |
| Eco | 200 | 50 | 3 | Default |
| Auto | 450 | 55 | 3-5 | Good for xc ride solo |
| Trail | 750 | 80 | 6-9 | Full Fat group rides |
| Turbo | 850 | 90 | 10 | |
| Boost | 60 sec |
I spend most of my time in Auto and use Trail as my Turbo, or when tired and wanting to eke out some more tails. The key for me is in the Assistance Range, this has the biggest impact on how fast the power comes in. The Avinox motor is 800% compared to Bosch, and most others, at 400% so if you want a more supportive power feeling, you need to dial this down.
I came from Spesh SL’s and a Bosch SX motor before this so I still want to have some rider input.
I feel like the assistance range would be better if all modes had it since you can simply put the upper and lower end on each other to ignore it all together on the auto and trail mode if you want.
I use almost the same settings. Never go above 750W though because I simply dont need it.
Another aspect of the assistance range is the steepness of the trail you are riding up. It feels unnatural when the motor switches the support based on the steepness of the hill.
@booostin I am curious of damper setup. I have been testing around with my hover monocoque for 4-5 rides now. The weather is pretty shitty. Most trails are just mudholes, so not much real testing with hard or loamy trails. Do you run the rebound on the fast side? Whats you weight/psi in the damper? I need around 450psi for 35% sag with around 100kg weight.
I use almost the same settings. Never go above 750W though because I simply dont need it.
Another aspect of the assistance range is the steepness of the trail you are riding up. It feels unnatural when the motor switches the support based on the steepness of the hill.
@booostin I am curious of damper setup. I have been testing around with my hover monocoque for 4-5 rides now. The weather is pretty shitty. Most trails are just mudholes, so not much real testing with hard or loamy trails. Do you run the rebound on the fast side? Whats you weight/psi in the damper? I need around 450psi for 35% sag with around 100kg weight.
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I also have the Hover. I have LSC and rebound about half way, running 490 psi for my 95kg riding weight. Still just bottoming out on bigger hits.
John_likes_bikes
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Without knowing your weight that's still a serious detune, really down to an SL's capability. You make me feel lazy but not enough to detune more, HAHA.
You must be able to ride forever on a charge.
If any of you guys follow Brain Cahal, he rated all 40 of the bikes that he rode this past year.
He rated both the E-Druid and the E-Core very highly, however he did rate the E-Druid a tier higher because he said he found the E-Core a bit short, which I found a bit interesting.
He rated both the E-Druid and the E-Core very highly, however he did rate the E-Druid a tier higher because he said he found the E-Core a bit short, which I found a bit interesting.
The reach is 7mm shorter on the Core vs Lite. BB Drop is also 5mm more on the Lite vs Core. Think most of us would feel that if we did back to back runs. Slight weight advantage of the Lite also helping.
Gonna hazard a guess most would like the Lite feel more, but not enough to give up the 800 battery. That was my rationale, at least.
Gonna hazard a guess most would like the Lite feel more, but not enough to give up the 800 battery. That was my rationale, at least.
Personally I love the extra weight of the of the Core, good thing we live in a time with sooo many great options!
sethimus
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that usually happens when you increase fork length…
87Kg’s on an S3
As I’ve come from years on acoustic bikes and then progressed into SL’s, a full fat ebike, especially with 800% assistance, doesn’t feel right to me
So I have tried to tune the Auto mode so it feels similar to my Bosch SX powered bike as I could ride for hours on that even if I hadn’t ridden for a while. Trail feels like Turbo to me but it allows me to ride with normal (non-Avinox) full fat riders.Since owning this bike, I’ve found its all about getting the Assistance Range right for you and how you like to ride as opposed to the actual power numbers. I haven’t derestricted the motor either and as I’m in the UK, this is only 15mph
Therefore there is only so much power that is useful or you are just hitting that number faster….. Riding buddy of mine has his Unno Mith derestricted and all he does is wait at the top of the hills for all the other ebikes 
Can you achieve a similar set of numbers by using a higher rise bar but dropping it down a couple of spacers on the steerer? This way you maintain the Stack height but gain some Reach? I keep thinking about trying this with a 50mm rise bar instead of the 35mm one fitted.
I’m 6’2” on an S3. I’m using a 50mm stem and 40mm rise bars rolled fairly forward.
The monocoque as well? How much sag are you running? Sounds strange. I used a backpack with weights to simulate fittef weight of around 100kg and needed 450psi for 35% sag. So you Most likely Run around 30?
How does the rear end feel? Harsh or supple?
Highland Wheels
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That's what I've done on my S4, havnt ridden it yet though as I'm on holiday in Spain til the new year now
Your tune numbers are similar to mine as well, Eco is barely any assist for the days I'm out with some analogies as well. Still not actually that sure what the assistance range means on it mind you
Yep the monocoque. I approximate sag, then run test laps on well known trails/drops where I know how much travel I should be using and adjust from there. I really don’t think you can get it dialled just on sag, there’s too much measurement error. I found a guide from Intend saying “100 psi per 20kg of rider weight” which seems to hold pretty true.
Where did you read that? Because spring rate is directly linked to the leverage ratio of the rear that is a pretty bold statements of them. They do say that 500psi is max or 105kg rider weight incl gear. I am around 100kg in the winter with gear right now.. normally 95kg in summer with less meat around the waist
I guess I'll try that approach as well and up the pressure a bit.. Still the question remains, how this setups works for you regarding the feeling of the rear? supple? rather harsh?
I’m keen to try it but I also have a load of suspension changes to try so I need to do one thing at a time or I’ll tie myself in knots…. Which I probably will anywayThat's what I've done on my S4, havnt ridden it yet though as I'm on holiday in Spain til the new year now
Your tune numbers are similar to mine as well, Eco is barely any assist for the days I'm out with some analogies as well. Still not actually that sure what the assistance range means on it mind you
I think the Assist Range is how early and strong the power comes in. There’s a good yt video from a German channel where they strap all the motors to a dyno to get proper results and this shows just how fast the Avinox motor delivers max power compared to the other motors like Bosch etc. In default settings the Avinox gives almost max power at about 100w from the rider, which is barely moving the pedals! Turn down the Assist Range and this curve flattens off to match Bosch and others.
Highland Wheels
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So lower number, less assistance in layman's?
John_likes_bikes
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When looking at "Assistance range".... Low number is the amount of assistance provided on flat ground, high number is amount of assistance for hills. The range is how much the system can change depending on the incline and residence it's sensing. Easiest way to understand it is think backwards, if there's no range and both are set the same you get the same amount of assistance in all situations. If you want less assistance (better range) on flat ground move the lower value down and vice versa for the higher value on hills.
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Exactly. And thats where they missed the chance to set all modes to dynamic and let the customer decide 
but that's probably coming at some point. I am really happy they let me change the mode order to eco, auto, trail... instead off auto, eco, trail
but that's probably coming at some point. I am really happy they let me change the mode order to eco, auto, trail... instead off auto, eco, trailI didn’t appreciate this and the relationship to gradient, i thought it was related to effort from the rider. Everyday is a school day
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