Brake upgrade

[Grasshopperaggy]

Hi all. I have a Specialized Levo FSR 6Fattie 2018 Electric Mountain Bike fitted with SRAM Level T brake but they seem not very good. I was considering upgrading to hope e4 brakes. Has any one else done this

 

[rmh1009]

Hi all. I have a Specialized Levo FSR 6Fattie 2018 Electric Mountain Bike fitted with SRAM Level T brake but they seem not very good. I was considering upgrading to hope e4 brakes. Has any one else done this

I've had Hope E4's on a standard bike and loved them. Probably go for V4's for an ebike though.

 

[gelfy666]

I've got E4s on my Transition Patrol, great brakes but I've found they need regular bleeding, and even my local Hope dealer hasn't been able to sort it.
I had SRAM beforehand and never had to touch them in 2 years.
But that's just my experience, I wouldn't buy them again.

 

[rmh1009]

I've got E4s on my Transition Patrol, great brakes but I've found they need regular bleeding, and even my local Hope dealer hasn't been able to sort it.
I had SRAM beforehand and never had to touch them in 2 years.
But that's just my experience, I wouldn't buy them again.

A mate has Guide RE's on his ebike and loves them. Codes or Saints would be my choice.

 

[Kimmoi]

I'm thinking to go Shimano Zee.

 

[Grasshopperaggy]

Yes I suppose the v4 will have a bit more power. I will have a look at the others suggested as well but really want hopes.

 

[Dax]

I used the hopes on a demo bike and they had the best lever feel of anything ive tried. On my regular bike I use saints and xt's, because they just keep working. Never going to bleed the codes on my kenevo, they'll go on eBay the minute the feel like they need bleeding

 

[rmh1009]

I used the hopes on a demo bike and they had the best lever feel of anything ive tried. On my regular bike I use saints and xt's, because they just keep working. Never going to bleed the codes on my kenevo, they'll go on eBay the minute the feel like they need bleeding

I’ve got a Canyon on order that comes with Zees. Can’t wait to try them. I’ve had loads of SLX and XT’s. Always found them great. Hopes were spot on though and looked so good. Lever feel and adjustability were the best I’ve had.

 

[gelfy666]

On a plus point Hopes come in pretty colours.

 

[myskovon]

Hopes or Shimano Saints get my vote. Also upgrading to 200/203mm discs if not on already helps ?

 

[Donnie797]

The Shimano Saints are phantastic brakes, but only make sense if you need the added adjustment function. If not, the Shimano Zee have the same brake power, same quality and use the same pads, for a much lesser price tag.

 

[rmh1009]

The Shimano Saints are phantastic brakes, but only make sense if you need the added adjustment function. If not, the Shimano Zee have exactly the same brake power and use the same pads, for a much lesser price tag.

Good to hear. Don’t think I’ve heard anything negative about the zee’s. Always good in reviews. Always found Shimano easy to bleed etc as well.

 

[gelfy666]

I did grumble about my E4s earlier , but I still bought more Hopes for my gravel bike so I suppose I like them

really.

 

[Grasshopperaggy]

They do look nice @gelfy666

 

[Mcharza]

Good to hear. Don’t think I’ve heard anything negative about the zee’s. Always good in reviews. Always found Shimano easy to bleed etc as well.

I changed to Shimano new 4-piston XT brakes with 203 rotors.
I have in my Transition Patrol Saints and not much different

Easy to bleed and use mineral oil

 

[Dax]

I changed to Shimano new 4-piston XT brakes with 203 rotors.
I have in my Transition Patrol Saints and not much different

Easy to bleed and use mineral oil

Got a link? I've not seen the 4pot XT yet

 

[ccrdave]

I changed to Shimano new 4-piston XT brakes with 203 rotors.
I have in my Transition Patrol Saints and not much different

Easy to bleed and use mineral oil

I have those on my levo fantastic brakes and in my opinion more modulation than the saints but still just as powerful and they use mineral oil which in my book is a plus.
I think they are designated sh 8020 and they look like saint calipers with xt levers

 

[Donnie797]

I have those on my levo fantastic brakes and in my opinion more modulation than the saints but still just as powerful and they use mineral oil which in my book is a plus.
I think they are designated sh 8020 and they look like saint calipers with xt levers

I've seen a review shortly where the new 4-piston XT brakes have been titled as the Shimano "all mountain / enduro" brakes. They really have a smoother modulation and are a bit lighter, but not as powerful as the Zee and Saint which are made for the "downhill" category of bikes. Good for us, we have more choices now ^^

 

[Grasshopperaggy]

Is that why the xt brakes are reduced because there are new 4 pots

 

[JayK]

I upgraded to Shimano Saint and man does it feel good to have unlimited braking power !

I'm actually having fun braking later and managing fonrt and rear where before, I was basically pulling on the lever as hard as I could. (I'm 100kg fully equipped. Ok maybe 102kg.)

 

[Grasshopperaggy]

Ok you people are starting to sway me a little. Just looked at zees at evans and there just under 100. Can i use discs that are allready on my bike and do i need different mounts to fit the calipers on. Also I have SRAM GX, one-click shift-lever that's mounted to brake leaver. Will saints or zees fit direct to shifter. Sorry for the questions. Not bought bike parts for many years

 

[Grasshopperaggy]

Just trying to work out overall cost between these and hopes.

 

[Grasshopperaggy]

Also are zees and saints better than Shimano XT M8000 I-Spec II Disc Bra

 

[Mcharza]

Also are zees and saints better than Shimano XT M8000 I-Spec II Disc Bra

Yes they are

 

[Mcharza]

Ok you people are starting to sway me a little. Just looked at zees at evans and there just under 100. Can i use discs that are allready on my bike and do i need different mounts to fit the calipers on. Also I have SRAM GX, one-click shift-lever that's mounted to brake leaver. Will saints or zees fit direct to shifter. Sorry for the questions. Not bought bike parts for many years

My LBS say no, so you might have to change the disks too

 

[Mcharza]

I've seen a review shortly where the new 4-piston XT brakes have been titled as the Shimano "all mountain / enduro" brakes. They really have a smoother modulation and are a bit lighter, but not as powerful as the Zee and Saint which are made for the "downhill" category of bikes. Good for us, we have more choices now ^^

They say, that the new XT 4-piston brakes are about 3-4% weaker than Saints?

 

[ccrdave]

you will be able to use the same discs if they are sram, I did without problem
you should be able to use the same mounts but sometimes sram brake caliper are mounted on spacer but should fit.
I swapped from sram to shimano without problems

 

[ccrdave]

I have the new xt four pot and I have saints and the only difference I would say is modulation

 

[ccrdave]

these guys make an adapter to mount sram shifters onto shimano brakes
Products | Problem Solvers

 

[ccrdave]

also do bear in mind if you do have to change the caliper mounts the shimano ones are 203 not 200