In that link you provided it says it’s for the smart system and can be run alongside the kiox 300/500. Just doesn’t mention it can be standalone. It’s supposedly more ergonomic than the LED controller. Looks like a good compromise.
That wasn't my initially but could be useful if someone wanted to do away with the Kiox screen. I personally don't mind the Kiox screen it's the LED remote I don't like and that Purion remote looks just as bad tbh.In that link you provided it says it’s for the smart system and can be run alongside the kiox 300/500. Just doesn’t mention it can be standalone. It’s supposedly more ergonomic than the LED controller. Looks like a good compromise.
This is correct - the Kiox is just a slave display for the LED Remote, which acts as the brain of the system. The new Purion would replace the LED Remote, Kiox is entirely optional.Seeing as its smart system I'm 90% sure it can just replace the LED remote & Kiox 300 if you wanted too
I can't get a photo of mine right now because I'm not home but mounting it all neatly is one thing but getting the buttons in a place where they feel good and getting the dropper lever in place where it felt good was a bit of a faff for me so the sliding mount of the LED remote definitely helped.
I can get the remote for £38 and I'm tempted to try it on my Whyte E 160 .If it does not work I will just sell it on eBay .noatrer where I position the led controller I can't get a comfortable position for quick up shifts to turbo on really steep hills ....a lot of confusion in this thread!! Kiox is a screen/controller for the gen 2 Bosch system and comes complete with its own wired remote. That set up enables replacement of the Purion. Nyon rather than Kiox is another option.
No Bosch Smart System component is backward compatible with gen2 ( Purion or Kiox/Nyon) Bosch System.
Kiox 300 is very different to the original Kiox. Why Bosch used the same branding a part from 300 suffix is a mystery! It is merely a wired slave screen working off the LED Remote of a Gen3/Bosch Smart system. The LED Remote is the system controller and has blutooth connectivity ............ to Bosch approved apps only (Flow/Strava/Komoot/ Apple Health).
Bosch also have a blutooth mini remote with top tube mounted controller option. Assuming you have a suitable hole or some other arrangement in the top tube you can operate the bike with only the system controller. The mini remote is an optional extra that connects via blutooth to the controller providing mode change on the bars.
So can you get rid of the LED Remote......well yes, provided you somehow use the only other Bosch Smart System controller option, which is the top tube mounted one. That would seem to be somewhat restricted to bikes manufactured to use that top tube controller since it need to be mounted and run a cable down to the main battery connector.
Can you move the LED Remote and make use of the mini remote? Well you can certainy position the LED Remote elsewhere but the question is then whether the mini remote will operate via blutooth to the LED Remote. According to a previous post it does however its functionality is less than that offered by the LED Remote.....specifically having no on/off button or controls for the Kiox300 screen ( assuming you have one). The Led Remote would therefore preferably be positioned where it could still be operated in order to access those functions.
Personally I have no problems with the LED Remote and having all controller functions in one place makes for a simpler electronic layout both to diagnose any problems and to replace if necessary.
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