Mabman
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I am not seeing any advantages for mtb use? Bigger, wider Q factor and heavier than the M620 stick out?
Bafang M630 Thread
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Adam Anderson
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from all official documents clarify that its peak power comes to 1500w only.
juggernaut
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I agree. The m620 already has more than enough torque and speed. It also has a more progressive curve based on the comparison graphs.
The m630 might be best suited to cargo bikes or bikes pulling a trailer coupled with the matched 5 speed auto.
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Mabman
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"The m630 might be best suited to cargo bikes or bikes pulling a trailer coupled with the matched 5 speed auto."
Which to be fair it seems was their intention?
As an M620 owner I do agree that it has more than enough torque for bicycle rated components but it does amaze me sometimes at what it will climb as long as I can maintain traction. I am not as concerned with the downhills as any bike can do those
Which to be fair it seems was their intention?
As an M620 owner I do agree that it has more than enough torque for bicycle rated components but it does amaze me sometimes at what it will climb as long as I can maintain traction. I am not as concerned with the downhills as any bike can do those
Yes but I want to know where the 1500w rated model is, as surely that one will peak higher
juggernaut
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Yes I believe the m630 was intended for that purpose. I have the 60volt version of the m620 which goes well."The m630 might be best suited to cargo bikes or bikes pulling a trailer coupled with the matched 5 speed auto."
Which to be fair it seems was their intention?
As an M620 owner I do agree that it has more than enough torque for bicycle rated components but it does amaze me sometimes at what it will climb as long as I can maintain traction. I am not as concerned with the downhills as any bike can do those
Adam Anderson
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there shall not be such a model so far.
It looks like they sell Bafang m630 already (or maybe it is just preorder). Anyone tried it? Anyone compared the internals like gears, stator and rotor with m620? I'm wondering how mush power this motor can handle comparing with m620 if I install custom controller there
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El Topo
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Are there any custom controllers, that focus on a smooth(-er) ride experience, over raw power? Since the Demise of Innotrace, I haven't seen anything in that regard, but maybe I am wrong?
Have there ever been Chinese clones, of that Innotrace controller?
Have there ever been Chinese clones, of that Innotrace controller?
Timbodacious
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Innotrace controller is open source VESC controller traced on the custom PCB to fit the motor case. I am surprised noone else do their version of VESC controller specifically for Bafang motors considering it is not that difficult for a knowledgeable person (or for not so knowlegable 3 persons, a mechanican engineer to develop the shape of the custom PCB with mounting hardware to fit the motor case, an electrical engineer to trace the VESC scematics on the PCB and a firmware engineer to get the thing works with particular sensors of the motor particular way and adopt the VESC firmware for this particular setup, but each task is not diffcult). Luna Cycle is the only other one I know currently does custom VESC controllers for other Bafang motors but not for m620 or 630.
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Ford Prefect
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I haven't had any issue with smooth & proportional ride experience, since calibrating the baseline on the torque sensor (came set at 0Mv, which is never correct; resulted in very jumpy starts & tiny torque sensing range) & spending at least a dozen sessions test-riding then tuning, the Slow Start & torque response at each (¿motor?-)speed range & keep\decay\delay settings.
The tuning is of course highly specific to my ebike's build, my weight, gear ratios, display type, etc... but now that it's done, it rides as smooth & responsively as any high output ebike I've tried; comparable to a Bosch but with loads more power, frankly.
Innotrace has been reverce engineered
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Hi! Which controller are you using for the M620 60 V – the Frey CAN version? I’ve got the same setup, and after updating to the latest firmware, the assist levels are nicely spaced: level 1 is 15%, then 30%, 60%, 80%, and 100%, with max power set to 28. Still, I’d love to have the ability to tweak these parameters manually, which is why I’m asking.
juggernaut
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Hi! Which controller are you using for the M620 60 V – the Frey CAN version? I’ve got the same setup, and after updating to the latest firmware, the assist levels are nicely spaced: level 1 is 15%, then 30%, 60%, 80%, and 100%, with max power set to 28. Still, I’d love to have the ability to tweak these parameters manually, which is why I’m asking.
Yes the Bafang (Frey) CAN version, 28 Amp
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These powerful motors are too strong on a lower PAS levels. Would be better something like 10%, 20% 35% 60% 100%
Just not sure if these custom 60V firmwares have option to set power levels over Besst Pro. Rather not and it is just hardcoded.
With M630 you can set all the possible settings like with M560 (max power, acceleration, assistance level %)
Have also 48V and 40A firmware for M630.
Just not sure if these custom 60V firmwares have option to set power levels over Besst Pro. Rather not and it is just hardcoded.
With M630 you can set all the possible settings like with M560 (max power, acceleration, assistance level %)
Have also 48V and 40A firmware for M630.
juggernaut
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I have 5 levels on Eco and 5 levels on Sport. Not sure what the %’s are, but I’m quite happy with settings. I run a 48T chainring so that may be taming down the responsiveness in preference stretching the speed range in each gear.
Timbodacious
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I guess interest died out on the m630 eh? I've been working with bafang and they sent me the m630 60v 30a firmware as well as the 48v40a and 52v35a It took me awhile to have them raise my security clearance on the besst tool to unlock 37 mph as well. There doesn't seem to be any "peak" power output on the 60v firmware, it goes to 1500 watts and stays there. (I have the 1500 watt constant power firmware) I was hoping i would see the 2kw peak or at least 1900 watts pop up on the screen like it theoretically should but bafangs firmware limits the output. We talked for a solid month and they only way they would greenlight true 60v 35a versions of the firmware or versions of the firmware with say a 30 second long peak at 1800 watts before dropping to 1500 watts is if i ordered 100 units of the motor lol. I've got it paired with the a510D with a 46t front chainring and a 30t rear cog, just trying to dial in the external gearing so it will actually push to 37 mph. Last test I did it was topping out at 27, i think my front chainring is too big since the motor comes with a 36t front but I will play with it. The a510D shifts like a dream but it shifts very fast on a little 20" wheel lol. you can barely feel it shift and it is basically dead silent. I would say the a510d is half as loud as your average freewheel clicking noise. The m630 is also alot quieter than the m620 I was very surprised at how quiet it was.
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Timbodacious
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Yes the m630 kicks pretty hard with the cadence sensor and when i checked the output it was very high I had to cut it in half
Has anyone already a tuned/programmed Bafang 16s 60V controller with more than 30A peak?
Such a heavy motor should be able to handle 40A at least for a very short time without damage. imho.
The old BBSHD controller was shunt-modded by many people for 40-50A peaks without many problems beside of the need to be careful with heat over time (mainly because of the nylon gear).
Such a heavy motor should be able to handle 40A at least for a very short time without damage. imho.
The old BBSHD controller was shunt-modded by many people for 40-50A peaks without many problems beside of the need to be careful with heat over time (mainly because of the nylon gear).
Dado
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Thats not much true it should handle 60V and 40A. For example M620 was overheating at even lower power.
But I have 48V and 40A version firmware for M630 if you want. Check www.k1ebikes.com
But I have 48V and 40A version firmware for M630 if you want. Check www.k1ebikes.com
