Article 2026 Specialized Levo 4 S-Works makes a big leap

[xtraman122]

Of course it's not the only wheel sensor, I know that very well, but the fact remains that a sensor that reacts in fractions of a second instead of acting every turn of the wheel is a step forward. The new Mahle engine also uses it, and in the future it will be the choice of other brands too, we bet?

But okay, let's talk about the new Levo G4: Can I say that it is a total disappointment ?? NO big leap for me !
(I have owned all previous Levo models).

Even Bafang now has a rotor speed sensor with something like 30-40 detection points per rotation on their just announced M510RS motor.

 

[Rockhopper70]

It depends what the information is used for really, but it’s not essential obviously, otherwise every e-bike would already have one.

My Bosch SX EMTB gets up stuff my Shimano E8000 can’t even though the latter has more power, my Mahle powered EMTB is different again. I liked the way my old Levo Gen 3 motor worked, very torquey yet natural feeling albeit for some reason it was never first in the queue for me to ride. No fault of the bike though.

If ever a bike needs to be seen in real life it’s the Gen 4 Levo I think, the ones I viewed and threw a leg over at my local Specialized dealer looked and rode very nicely to be fair, but on here unless it’s an Enduro focussed boutique carbon jobbie (with an Avinox) then they don’t get much of a look in.

The stories on here of people out riding with a mate who isn’t on an Amflow who gets left behind on every climb or fire road ascent are also strange. Those ‘rides with a mate’ if true won’t be happening for long….

E-bikes are about riding in case anybody has forgotten!

I think you are wasting your breath, Amflow owners are a special breed who won’t accept any other bike or motor existing. Especially you with a pointless SX motor….. (which is, BTW, what I’m looking at getting on).

 

[robikinkela]

Yesterday I saw an aluminum Levo for the first time and when I picked it up I was very disappointed. Every time I look at the new generation 4 and the technical choices they made, I can't help but think about how this ebike could have been with a smaller 800w/h integrated battery that would have allowed it to reach a weight of 22kg. It also makes me angry every time I see the expert model mounted with those hubs and those brake discs... it's pretty clear that Specialized knows what needs to be done to sell bikes but this time I have the impression that they have addressed a general public and have taken a path that is not mine; no, this time I will give my money to someone else. I showed it to a friend of mine who wants to change her bike and she told me that she has no intention of buying such a heavy bike. There are a lot of ebikes out there now with much better value for money than this one.

 

[WatermanJim]

Yesterday I saw an aluminum Levo for the first time and when I picked it up I was very disappointed. Every time I look at the new generation 4 and the technical choices they made, I can't help but think about how this ebike could have been with a smaller 800w/h integrated battery that would have allowed it to reach a weight of 22kg. It also makes me angry every time I see the expert model mounted with those hubs and those brake discs... it's pretty clear that Specialized knows what needs to be done to sell bikes but this time I have the impression that they have addressed a general public and have taken a path that is not mine; no, this time I will give my money to someone else. I showed it to a friend of mine who wants to change her bike and she told me that she has no intention of buying such a heavy bike. There are a lot of ebikes out there now with much better value for money than this one.

This is a typical and understandable response by a person who has never ridden the bike. We been there done that, read the 100 page thread. Yes the weight is disappointing at first, but on the trail you will see that the extra 3 lbs is not a bad thing and actually adds to the bikes stability and your confidence. Buy a carbon model and go ride.
You will be smiling not complaining.

 

[linkqwd]

This is a typical and understandable response by a person who has never ridden the bike. We been there done that, read the 100 page thread. Yes the weight is disappointing at first, but on the trail you will see that the extra 3 lbs is not a bad thing and actually adds to the bikes stability and your confidence. Buy a carbon model and go ride.
You will be smiling not complaining.

You need speed to compensate for the additional weight so that it feels stable and planted. On mellower terrain and at lower speeds, this much weight is simply a burden. It’s also not convenient to toss the bike around—whether on a rack or over a fallen tree—when it weighs over 24 kg.

I agree the new Levo is a big leap forward in some ways, but it also feels like a step back. I’m not going to spend this kind of crazy money on a bike that is worse in at least one important area compared to the previous model. I want it to be an all-around better bike.

 

[DylanJM]

I really think people are overstating the difference an extra 1-2kg can have. People are talking about it like it's an extra 5-10kg.

 

[B1rdie]

Guys that look into buying a bike as an act of “giving my money” … thats what is making prices rise out of any sense. Last month I bought a marin for $3.000. Its my third ebike and the cheapest, compared to the 2019 spectralon and 2022 cube stereo. This 3k bike is sturdy and rode sweetly around the trails in Utah. I did check a few new levos and found that , for the first time since I started ruding ebikes, its a bike I wil have, when the price drops, so yeah, good to see the boutique bike shoppers demeaning such a well thought out bike.

 

[p3eps]

I really think people are overstating the difference an extra 1-2kg can have. People are talking about it like it's an extra 5-10kg.

I posted this in a different thread the other day... but it applies here too. I think a couple of kgs does make a difference...

My Levo SL is 16.9kgs. I spent a lot of time and money getting it light, without sacrificing performance. I can still take it down the DH trails without fear of breaking something, but can lift it over a fence with relative ease.

It’s in the shop for a new motor at the moment, so I rode my old 2017 Stumpy 6-Fattie. First time in about a year - poor bike has been abandoned! Converted to tubes for storage… so I only had to put a new AXS battery in the derailleur and a little tyre top up, and was good to go.

The difference is about 3.5kg between my Levo SL and Stumpy, and it makes such a difference when riding. So much easier to handle, jump and generally felt great to ride (on flat and downhill!!). Having no assistance was a bummer though!

I can’t imagine going back to a 25kg bike, or even 21kg to be honest. I don’t think it matters what I weigh… the heavier bike is still more difficult to handle. For what it’s worth, I’m about 78kg, 6ft 2” tall, and in decent enough shape.

 

[DylanJM]

I posted this in a different thread the other day... but it applies here too. I think a couple of kgs does make a difference...

My Levo SL is 16.9kgs. I spent a lot of time and money getting it light, without sacrificing performance. I can still take it down the DH trails without fear of breaking something, but can lift it over a fence with relative ease.

It’s in the shop for a new motor at the moment, so I rode my old 2017 Stumpy 6-Fattie. First time in about a year - poor bike has been abandoned! Converted to tubes for storage… so I only had to put a new AXS battery in the derailleur and a little tyre top up, and was good to go.

The difference is about 3.5kg between my Levo SL and Stumpy, and it makes such a difference when riding. So much easier to handle, jump and generally felt great to ride (on flat and downhill!!). Having no assistance was a bummer though!

I can’t imagine going back to a 25kg bike, or even 21kg to be honest. I don’t think it matters what I weigh… the heavier bike is still more difficult to handle. For what it’s worth, I’m about 78kg, 6ft 2” tall, and in decent enough shape.

It's a different situation comparing a meat bike to an ebike though as the motor and battery have a big impact of the centre of gravity and weight distribution of the bike so of course you will feel a big difference in handling. Comparing ebike to ebike however I don't think 22.5kg compared to 24kg is gonna be that all that different. Maybe if it was a 4kg+ differnce I could understand it more but not a kilo or two.

 

[linkqwd]

It's a different situation comparing a meat bike to an ebike though as the motor and battery have a big impact of the centre of gravity and weight distribution of the bike so of course you will feel a big difference in handling. Comparing ebike to ebike however I don't think 22.5kg compared to 24kg is gonna be that all that different. Maybe if it was a 4kg+ differnce I could understand it more but not a kilo or two.

You’d be lucky to get it down to 24kg. The Expert Carbon build, with pedals and accessories, easily hits the 25kg mark.

The Gen 3 isn’t particularly light either. And 22.5kg is still a lot and that’s S-Works weight without pedals. I recently rode my Gen 3 Levo without the battery (lift-assisted rides), and it came in at 19.5kg with pedals. It was a blast — still stable and planted, but so much easier to handle, especially when jumping doubles on slower speeds.

I don’t actually mind a heavier e-bike — but 160/150mm on a 25kg bike is already sluggish, at least give us the option to run it 170/170, and I wouldn’t complain about the weight.

 

[berglex]

Hi Leute.
Ich habe mir den Launch des neuen Levo Gen4 sehr genau angeschaut – und frage mich ehrlich gesagt, ob Specialized da wirklich den oft zitierten „Big Leap“ gemacht hat. Oder eher einen Rückschritt im modernen E-MTB-Verständnis.

Denn nüchtern betrachtet ist dieses neue Flaggschiff vor allem eines:
– schwer ,
– wuchtig im Design
– und auch nur auf brachiale Leistung reduziert.

25 kg waren vor ein paar Jahren noch ein Grund für Spott – jetzt ist es plötzlich „State of the Art“, weil es aus dem Hause Specialized kommt? Das wirkt für mich eher wie ein spät reagierender Versuch, nach dem Avinox-Aufschlag von DJI wieder mitzuhalten. Und das mit einem Konzept, das in meinen Augen ziemlich wenig Evolution zeigt.

Die Geometrie? Minimal angepasst. Und variabel war die ja schon zuvor.
Das Design? Geschmackssache – für mich optisch ein Rückschritt.
Der Akku? Größer, ja – aber bei der neuen Motorleistung wird er auch schneller leergezogen und eben schwerer.
Der Motor? Klar, krass. Aber ist mehr Leistung wirklich die Antwort auf alle Fragen?
Die Ausgewogenheit? Die erreichen andere Bikes heute auch mühelos.

Wenn ich dann in Foren lese, dass sich einige fast schon empören, wenn man Avinox oder DJI überhaupt erwähnt, weil „ein Specialized sich ja nicht nur über Leistung definiert“, frage ich mich: Warum hat Specialized dann genau diesen Weg eingeschlagen?

Wo ist der Innovationsgeist, den man einst mit dem Gen1 ausgelöst hat? Die Gen2 und Gen3 waren solide, gut optimiert – ich fahre selbst noch ein Gen3 und mag das Fahrgefühl sehr – aber das Gen4? Für mich fühlt es sich eher nach einem Marketing-getriebenen Kraftpaket an, das mit seinem Trailbike-Charakter nicht mehr viel zu tun hat. Eher ein elektrifizierter Uphill-Panzer.

Ich weiß, das gefällt Hardcore-Fans nicht. Und ja, es ist sicher ein beeindruckendes Stück Technik – aber eines, das sich stark von dem entfernt hat, was ich an einem E-MTB schätze: Fahrgefühl, Agilität, Balance zwischen Leistung und Leichtigkeit.

Ich persönlich habe mich deshalb für ein anderes Konzept entschieden – nicht weil ich Specialized grundsätzlich schlecht finde, sondern weil ich mir etwas anderes unter Fortschritt vorstelle. Und ich frage mich ernsthaft, ob der Trend, E-MTBs immer näher an Krafträder heranzuführen, wirklich die Richtung ist, die wir gehen sollten.

 

[irie]

This is the Google translation of the above post:


Hi guys.
I watched the launch of the new Levo Gen4 very closely – and honestly, I'm wondering whether Specialized has really made the oft-quoted "Big Leap." Or rather, a step backward in the modern understanding of e-MTBs.

Because, objectively speaking, this new flagship is one thing above all:
– heavy,
– bulky in design,
– and also reduced to brute performance.

25 kg was a reason for ridicule a few years ago – now it's suddenly "state of the art" because it comes from Specialized? To me, this seems more like a late-reacting attempt to catch up with DJI's Avinox. And with a concept that, in my opinion, shows very little evolution.

The geometry? Minimally tweaked. And it was already variable before.

The design? A matter of taste – a visual step backward for me.

The battery? Bigger, yes – but with the new motor power, it also runs dry faster and is heavier.
The motor? Sure, it's crazy. But is more power really the answer to all questions?
The balance? Other bikes achieve that effortlessly these days.

When I read in forums that some people are almost outraged at the mere mention of Avinox or DJI because "Specialized isn't just defined by performance," I ask myself: Why did Specialized go down this path?

Where is the spirit of innovation that they once sparked with the Gen1?
Where is the spirit of innovation that they once sparked with the Gen1?
Wo ist der Innovationsgeist, den sie einst mit der Gen1 entfacht haben?
Where is the spirit of innovation that was once triggered by the Gen1?
Wo ist der Innovationsgeist, der einst durch die Gen1 ausgelöst wurde?
The Gen2 and Gen3 were solid, well-optimized – I still ride a Gen3 myself and really like the ride – but the Gen4? To me, it feels more like a marketing-driven powerhouse that no longer has much to do with its trail bike character. More like an electrified uphill tank.

I know, hardcore fans won't like that. And yes, it's certainly an impressive piece of technology—but one that's strayed significantly from what I value in an e-MTB: ride feel, agility, and the balance between power and lightness.

Personally, I've opted for a different concept—not because I fundamentally dislike Specialized, but because I have a different idea of progress. And I seriously wonder whether the trend toward making e-MTBs increasingly similar to motorcycles is really the direction we should be going.

 

[Citylad77]

I was a big Levo fan have had 7 bikes in 7 years including 5 S Works. I still have a Gen 2019 3FS Carbon, and Gen 3 alloy. I was really looking forwards to this new Gen 4, I was told that it would be a really big step up over the Gen 3 S Works in every area. Its not its gone backwards it looks and rides like a very heavy bike now, its a not a patch on the Amflow to ride and thats before you get in to Motor and Batt tech.

 

[Citylad77]

This is the Google translation of the above post:


Hi guys.
I watched the launch of the new Levo Gen4 very closely – and honestly, I'm wondering whether Specialized has really made the oft-quoted "Big Leap." Or rather, a step backward in the modern understanding of e-MTBs.

Because, objectively speaking, this new flagship is one thing above all:
– heavy,
– bulky in design,
– and also reduced to brute performance.

25 kg was a reason for ridicule a few years ago – now it's suddenly "state of the art" because it comes from Specialized? To me, this seems more like a late-reacting attempt to catch up with DJI's Avinox. And with a concept that, in my opinion, shows very little evolution.

The geometry? Minimally tweaked. And it was already variable before.

The design? A matter of taste – a visual step backward for me.

The battery? Bigger, yes – but with the new motor power, it also runs dry faster and is heavier.
The motor? Sure, it's crazy. But is more power really the answer to all questions?
The balance? Other bikes achieve that effortlessly these days.

When I read in forums that some people are almost outraged at the mere mention of Avinox or DJI because "Specialized isn't just defined by performance," I ask myself: Why did Specialized go down this path?

Where is the spirit of innovation that they once sparked with the Gen1?
Where is the spirit of innovation that they once sparked with the Gen1?
Wo ist der Innovationsgeist, den sie einst mit der Gen1 entfacht haben?
Where is the spirit of innovation that was once triggered by the Gen1?
Wo ist der Innovationsgeist, der einst durch die Gen1 ausgelöst wurde?
The Gen2 and Gen3 were solid, well-optimized – I still ride a Gen3 myself and really like the ride – but the Gen4? To me, it feels more like a marketing-driven powerhouse that no longer has much to do with its trail bike character. More like an electrified uphill tank.

I know, hardcore fans won't like that. And yes, it's certainly an impressive piece of technology—but one that's strayed significantly from what I value in an e-MTB: ride feel, agility, and the balance between power and lightness.

Personally, I've opted for a different concept—not because I fundamentally dislike Specialized, but because I have a different idea of progress. And I seriously wonder whether the trend toward making e-MTBs increasingly similar to motorcycles is really the direction we should be going.

Great Post,
Full agree with all of this.........

 

[Citylad77]

Yesterday I saw an aluminum Levo for the first time and when I picked it up I was very disappointed. Every time I look at the new generation 4 and the technical choices they made, I can't help but think about how this ebike could have been with a smaller 800w/h integrated battery that would have allowed it to reach a weight of 22kg. It also makes me angry every time I see the expert model mounted with those hubs and those brake discs... it's pretty clear that Specialized knows what needs to be done to sell bikes but this time I have the impression that they have addressed a general public and have taken a path that is not mine; no, this time I will give my money to someone else. I showed it to a friend of mine who wants to change her bike and she told me that she has no intention of buying such a heavy bike. There are a lot of ebikes out there now with much better value for money than this one.

And that’s the problem there are much better bikes available for a lot less.

 

[Citylad77]

This is a typical and understandable response by a person who has never ridden the bike. We been there done that, read the 100 page thread. Yes the weight is disappointing at first, but on the trail you will see that the extra 3 lbs is not a bad thing and actually adds to the bikes stability and your confidence. Buy a carbon model and go ride.
You will be smiling not complaining.

Nah, it rides like a very heavy bike and the new steel gears motor is very loud and noisy, Spec says it’s within limits.

The Gen 3 S Works was a better handling bike. I wonder how many that have a test ride first coming from a Gen 3 actually go on the buy one if these heavy new bikes.

 

[DirkWisely]

You’d be lucky to get it down to 24kg. The Expert Carbon build, with pedals and accessories, easily hits the 25kg mark.

The Gen 3 isn’t particularly light either. And 22.5kg is still a lot and that’s S-Works weight without pedals. I recently rode my Gen 3 Levo without the battery (lift-assisted rides), and it came in at 19.5kg with pedals. It was a blast — still stable and planted, but so much easier to handle, especially when jumping doubles on slower speeds.

I don’t actually mind a heavier e-bike — but 160/150mm on a 25kg bike is already sluggish, at least give us the option to run it 170/170, and I wouldn’t complain about the weight.

Mine is <25kg and it has a Nine One fork, which is not light. It's also not weightmaxxed at all really.

 

[DirkWisely]

Nah, it rides like a very heavy bike and the new steel gears motor is very loud and noisy, Spec says it’s within limits.

The Gen 3 S Works was a better handling bike. I wonder how many that have a test ride first coming from a Gen 3 actually go on the buy one if these heavy new bikes.

If you say so. I have a gen3 alloy and when I test rode the gen4 I bought it the next day. It handles way better for me.

 

[linkqwd]

Mine is <25kg and it has a Nine One fork, which is not light. It's also not weightmaxxed at all really.

I'm coming from specialized official website and their numbers which is for stock Expert model - 24.41 kg (and I think it is without tyre sealant)
adding pedals, bottle and fork fender adds around 600g

 

[Citylad77]

I think you are wasting your breath, Amflow owners are a special breed who won’t accept any other bike or motor existing. Especially you with a pointless SX motor….. (which is, BTW, what I’m looking at getting on).

Lol
When you ride the AMflow back to back with this Gen 4 SW, one feels very agile if feels like you’re moving at one with the bike, the power delivery is very smooth and almost silent. The other one feels and handles like a very heavy bike with a noisy motor.

This is a typical and understandable response by a person who has never ridden the bike. We been there done that, read the 100 page thread. Yes the weight is disappointing at first, but on the trail you will see that the extra 3 lbs is not a bad thing and actually adds to the bikes stability and your confidence. Buy a carbon model and go ride.
You will be smiling not complaining.

it does not need to be any more stable, it’s stable because it’s to heavy it rides like a truck. It should be lighter and way more agile you should feel at one with the bike. Way too expensive for what it is. And I have ridden 3 of them now. Should not be mentioned in same sentence as AMflow, vastly superior Bike in all areas.

 

[DirkWisely]

I'm coming from specialized official website and their numbers which is for stock Expert model - 24.41 kg (and I think it is without tyre sealant)
adding pedals, bottle and fork fender adds around 600g

Doesn't it all depend on what you put on the bike? Put lighter brakes, lighter fork, lighter tires, and you can get it <23kg I'm sure.

 

[NervousFan]

Lol
When you ride the AMflow back to back with this Gen 4 SW, one feels very agile if feels like you’re moving at one with the bike, the power delivery is very smooth and almost silent. The other one feels and handles like a very heavy bike with a noisy motor.

it does not need to be any more stable, it’s stable because it’s to heavy it rides like a truck. It should be lighter and way more agile you should feel at one with the bike. Way too expensive for what it is. And I have ridden 3 of them now. Should not be mentioned in same sentence as AMflow, vastly superior Bike in all areas.

In my opinion, you're just suffering from a classic case of butthurt because you really like the Levo, but it's simply too expensive for you. If you're saying the motor is loud and the bike is sluggish on the trail, then I'm sorry, but you're just talking nonsense and have clearly never ridden that bike.

 

[Citylad77]

In my opinion, you're just suffering from a classic case of butthurt because you really like the Levo, but it's simply too expensive for you. If you're saying the motor is loud and the bike is sluggish on the trail, then I'm sorry, but you're just talking nonsense and have clearly never ridden that bike.

Rubbish, I have had 5 S Works Levos in 7 years, have loved every one. Was really looking forward to this new bike, I ended up with the AMflow by accident. I was told that this new Gen 4 was going to be a Revolutionary not an evolution. When I first saw it I thought that looked horrible with that massive down Tube, then I had a ride on 3 bikes before my own bike arrived, after which I immediately cancelled my order. 2 of the bikes I rode had very loud Motors , I spoke with the Shop I use about this, the response was.

“ yes you are correct Spec are aware of this, and say due to the steel gear the noise can vary from bike to bike. But they feel it’s acceptable “

Well it’s not acceptable to me, but the main problem for me was the way the bike rides it’s not very agile at all and rides like a very heavy bike. It’s just not in the same league as the AMflow Pro when riding back to back, the Gen 4 feels very slow to react to inputs in comparison , the Motor, Batt , tech on the AMflow is more superior also. If they bring out an SL type frame with this Motor then I might be interested, but this Gen 4 S works, Nah it’s a step backwards and never a 13k bike. BTW my last S Works Gen 3 I paid full up 14.5 k for and loved every minute on it . Have spent around 70k GBP on Levos over 7 years, not afraid of expensive bikes, just don’t like ones that are just not good to ride. Pics of my last 2 Gen 3 S works paid full RRP 29k for both one to keep at each of my homes.

 

[DirkWisely]

It'd be nice if I could ride an Amflow to see for myself, but right now I like the gen4 a lot.

 

[Citylad77]

It'd be nice if I could ride an Amflow to see for myself, but right now I like the gen4 a lot.

Trust me on this, it resets what you thought was a light agile powerful fun EMTB, I was going to take my S Works 4 at one point as a back up bike, but my AMflow has been 100% reliable so far, and I have an UNNO MITH arriving in 2 weeks. I just would never ride the S Gen4, I am far from alone with this opinion also. The video below is a great example of how the AMflow rides it’s even better now with the recent updates, like smooth shift on the gears. I can see why others don’t like this bike and are pushing bias reviews, imo.

 

[linkqwd]

Doesn't it all depend on what you put on the bike? Put lighter brakes, lighter fork, lighter tires, and you can get it <23kg I'm sure.

Not really in the case of the Gen 4. The Specialized system (motor and battery) is the heaviest on the market among the latest tech, add removable battery feature which is often lead to heavier frame - and here we are.

You’d have to compromise the performance with lighter components just to get it close to something like the Vala, Regulator, or even the god damn Amflow

 

[DirkWisely]

Not really in the case of the Gen 4. The Specialized system (motor and battery) is the heaviest on the market among the latest tech, add removable battery feature which is often lead to heavier frame - and here we are.

You’d have to compromise the performance with lighter components just to get it close to something like the Vala, Regulator, or even the god damn Amflow

You have to compromise the performance on the Amflow to make it light too. Build it out with burly tires, Mavens and a fox 38 and it's not 22kg either.

 

[DirkWisely]

Trust me on this, it resets what you thought was a light agile powerful fun EMTB, I was going to take my S Works 4 at one point as a back up bike, but my AMflow has been 100% reliable so far, and I have an UNNO MITH arriving in 2 weeks. I just would never ride the S Gen4, I am far from alone with this opinion also. The video below is a great example of how the AMflow rides it’s even better now with the recent updates, like smooth shift on the gears. I can see why others don’t like this bike and are pushing bias reviews, imo.

We'll see what the base model Amflow costs in the US. Maybe I'll buy it just to compare.

 

[linkqwd]

You have to compromise the performance on the Amflow to make it light too. Build it out with burly tires, Mavens and a fox 38 and it's not 22kg either.

It actually can be 22kg
For example UNNO Mith built on DJI system is 21.3kg with gravity-worthy components and its 170/160 travel bike. Put pedals and stuff - 22kg even with 800wh battery

Sam's Bikes built his ultimate dream build Amlfow and its 22.1kg as he says, dont know if its with pedals, but his build has coil shock

 

[Citylad77]

Not really in the case of the Gen 4. The Specialized system (motor and battery) is the heaviest on the market among the latest tech, add removable battery feature which is often lead to heavier frame - and here we are.

You’d have to compromise the performance with lighter components just to get it close to something like the Vala, Regulator, or even the god damn Amflow

Spec got lazy Imo, they could have bought this so called new 4 bike to Market a very long time ago, but were afraid of the write downs on the Gen 3s,
inventory,so just thought they could wait a year etc do nothing and own the Top Spot. Well they got caught out this time, hopefully they will learn by this and bring out something based along the lines of the SL frame and lighter batt and Motor, one point I was very impressed was the comfort of the Geni rear shock. So many great bikes around now in the 8-10k range it’s hard to know were to start.