Review 2024 Amflow PL Pro 800 wH

[David1960]

Hi Gordon,

Mine was super "draggy" too....when brand new. I would also agree, its likely just seals and I would guess also, the grease "packing in" to the gearing.. For me also, smoothed right out, after some riding and "breaking in"

Not sure if I agree any "drag" is from the motor, probably everything else, and the drag then, wouldn't be then be a function of low speed, but high. The only friction in the motor, would be (or should be) the ball bearings.

Probably not understanding your post too....

Cheers.

I agree -I noticed at beginning bike was very draggy over the limit but yesterday seemed lot easier- was cycling at 17 /18 mph in uk- limit is 15.5.

 

[David1960]

Ha! nice to feel like, Ned Overend, right?... just an "old" guy killing it, on the trail.

Nice, I've never got 37 miles so far, but I am pretty much always riding on turbo.

Cheers "Ned"

I am riding auto / trail/ some turbo -but my weight is 55 kilos -I would make a very good race jockey ! That’s why my mileage on bike is high

 

[Just gan]

Had great ride today . 37 miles. 34 per cent battery left. Bike is so great. . Love demolishing these hills. Suspension and electronic gear shifting fantastic on this bike.

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That's the kind of range I would like. Probably need to lose a few stone

 

[Bikedriver19]

I agree -I noticed at beginning bike was very draggy over the limit but yesterday seemed lot easier- was cycling at 17 /18 mph in uk- limit is 15.5.

Ugh. Such a Slow speed limit over there in Europe I guess fine for uphill.. but for flats ... some, must want more.

You could (assuming the risks involved) delimit it. Mine tops out at about 33 mi/hr or 53 km/hr now, before I run out of gearing.

 

[Just gan]

Ugh. Such a Slow speed limit over there in Europe I guess fine for uphill.. but for flats ... some, must want more.

You could (assuming the risks involved) delimit it. Mine tops out at about 33 mi/hr or 53 km/hr now, before I run out of

 

[David1960]

Yes. But on hills is great. I have done 260 miles since 15 th feb. Love bike.

 

[P00KIENRAYRAY]

Ugh. Such a Slow speed limit over there in Europe I guess fine for uphill.. but for flats ... some, must want more.

You could (assuming the risks involved) delimit it. Mine tops out at about 33 mi/hr or 53 km/hr now, before I run out of gearing.

Hey there. I’m also in the US and want to order the Amflow...mainly bc of all the rave reviews on the motor. But Im deciding between the Amflow and an enduro type SL emtb like Decoy SN or Kenevo bc:
1. I currently ride a Levo SL, I'm trying to get a bike that's complimentary to it. Amflow may be too similar in geo/travel?
2. I do want an enduro bike with high stack height, slack HTA, etc. for better descending.
3. Although I do appreciate more power and range, I don't know if I necessarily crave it like many riders. I want to make sure I'm choosing a bike based off of my personal needs.

Do you think the Amflow descends similar to a Decoy SN or enduro type bike, like some youtubers say? I haven't ridden any of these options, I'm just speaking based off of assumptions.

 

[David1960]

Hey there. I’m also in the US and want to order the Amflow...mainly bc of all the rave reviews on the motor. But Im deciding between the Amflow and an enduro type SL emtb like Decoy SN or Kenevo bc:
1. I currently ride a Levo SL, I'm trying to get a bike that's complimentary to it. Amflow may be too similar in geo/travel?
2. I do want an enduro bike with high stack height, slack HTA, etc. for better descending.
3. Although I do appreciate more power and range, I don't know if I necessarily crave it like many riders. I want to make sure I'm choosing a bike based off of my personal needs.

Do you think the Amflow descends similar to a Decoy SN or enduro type bike, like some youtubers say? I haven't ridden any of these options, I'm just speaking based off of assumptions.

My opinion is - amflow is incredible. I love it it. But it’s not and enduro bike. I describe it as trail bike with incredible uphill power . It’s light agile and has amazing handling- but it’s not a downhill enduro bike. If downhill blasting is your thing it’s better to get another bike - if you want to smash uphill ascents and love idea of light bike - get amflow.

 

[P00KIENRAYRAY]

Thank you! Very useful insight. That's how I originally viewed the Amflow until youtubers like MBR have been saying stuff like, it rides enduro trails pretty well, or that it rides downhill better than the numbers suggest. Perhaps they're not wrong, but I guess that still doesn't make it an enduro.

I still haven't ruled out ordering it. Even though I want a more downhill capable bike, I have to decide how much of that I'm willing to compromise for the benefits of blasting up climbs. The smashing uphill part is a feeling and experience I haven't had, or even am able to conceptualize yet. Even with how long EMTBs have been on the scene.

 

[David1960]

Thank you! Very useful insight. That's how I originally viewed the Amflow until youtubers like MBR have been saying stuff like, it rides enduro trails pretty well, or that it rides downhill better than the numbers suggest. Perhaps they're not wrong, but I guess that still doesn't make it an enduro.

I still haven't ruled out ordering it. Even though I want a more downhill capable bike, I have to decide how much of that I'm willing to compromise for the benefits of blasting up climbs. The smashing uphill part is a feeling and experience I haven't had, or even am able to conceptualize yet. Even with how long EMTBs have been on the scene.

These are my thoughts - I have a mondaraker Bosch cx motor as well - this is fantastic bike. Can get up any hill - yes not as fast / lot heavier. But capable of any terrain. However I still love the amflow. You can still go down anything on the amflow. But it’s different. I love getting to top of ascent - waiting for my friends !

 

[P00KIENRAYRAY]

These are my thoughts - I have a mondaraker Bosch cx motor as well - this is fantastic bike. Can get up any hill - yes not as fast / lot heavier. But capable of any terrain. However I still love the amflow. You can still go down anything on the amflow. But it’s different. I love getting to top of ascent - waiting for my friends !

I’ve decided that I’m gonna go Amflow. Do you recommend shelling out the hefty upgrade price for the Pro model? Roughly $4k USD. I imagine I can build a comparable spec to the pro with that kind of money. The only advantage I see with the Pro is a slick color way vs the boring silver of the standard.

 

[Purple parznip]

Hi ebike fans, I’m new, I initially didn’t see there was a dedicated “reviews” section on this forum. I posted a review in another thread,……. Sorry, Newbie face slap!

Anyway, why has no one written a review here on this bike yet, I wonder?

Here is my review of my new Amflow PL. (800 wH), (in the proper place in the forum this time, adding some things)

Background - I have owned or ridden every system on the market, over the last 8 years, and have been riding MTB’s basically my entire life…. My Most recent bike, has the bosch (delimited.)

I have 7 rides on my AMFLOW so far, now over 100 miles.
Performance: I had some reservations having to buy without trying, but got some input from a friend in Europe. From that, I had high expectations, but after riding it, it met and definitely exceeded my expectations. In my opinion - The AMFLOW should have been “the eMTB of the year,” and the it’s definitely the “eMTB of the last decade.”
The performance of this bike is absolutely insane, in terms of power, torque, but also in terms of control. The motor output based on rider input, is super impressive, especially when climbing. When hitting the 20 mph limit, it doesn't just cut out, rather it smoothly lets you off, while maintaining some support at the 20 mph mark. I ‘d say the control (motor controller) is in a class of it's own. I would have guessed DJI would use sensorless FOC control (like drones) but with the encoder on the back wheel, and perhaps there are also halls on the motor, not sure, can’t tell - anyway I suspect its sensored closed loop control, and regardless, it is really excellent.

There is a “sweet spot” for every gear, in terms of cadence. The motor really shines and puts out, at higher cadence, and smoothly cuts back at lower cadence. But even so, somehow, with lower cadence, if you need the torque (this is most noticeable when climbing steeps in lower gears), it is there.

Acceleration is nothing short of awesome. IT really comes out of the corners, fast, if you are in the right gear, with the right cadence.

Climbing is the best part of this bike, for me. I have never enjoyed climbing hills like this. IT will climb just about anything the tires still have traction for. no lift needed, for sure, if it was in a DH bike.


Range: I have the 800 wH Pro. (note I have the modes all tuned for max power on the app)

I have been getting a consistent 17 miles riding 100% on turbo (with 8% left in the battery), cross country super technical terrain.
I haven't tried trail mode only for an entire ride, to see what range I get, (turbo has been too much fun.) ..but plan to.
I’ve hit the boost a couple of times in each ride.
With a mix of trail and turbo, mostly turbo, I got near 20 miles. Maybe did 5 of those miles on trail mode.

The weight (lack of) of the battery is really noticeable, especially when I get back on a bosch with a 625 wH battery. The weight and balance of the bike in general, feels perfect.

I think, at least for me, the 600 Wh battery, would be too small, but that really depends on what kind of riding mode you are using most of the time, and your riding style, how many miles you like to do, per ride, etc.


The boost mode is wonderful, amazing, but hard to find a place to use in tight singletrack or technical, unless hitting a big hill. It seems, the boost, noticeably drains the battery a bit each time, which is to be expected, the motor is probably running hot, and not as efficiently.

Technology - the app, the touchscreen, etc - is also super nice and superior to anything else. For any that understand and appreciate motor and gear technology, the dual planetary with helical stage (that's for noise), offset to the spur, I think, is super smart. IT looks like (from the website pictures) only the helical stage is plastic, but its larger than the other stages, so should be strong compared to the metal stages, but it also depends on what kind of plastic they used.

Time will tell for reliability and life. I plan to ride the hell out of this bike, always on turbo, so plan to find out. First year on the market, I know I am one of the guinea pigs, but was happy to take that risk, for the reward.

IN my last review post , I stated that “Getting back on the bosch feels like I stepped out of a 2025 Ferrari, and into a 1980's ford focus.” OK, that’s not really true, I was exaggerating…to much adrenaline from the ride.

It’s more like stepping out of a twin turbo Ferrari, into something like a Toyota Camery (V6, no turbo).
Still, there is no comparison really, the DJI just RIPS with the feeling of monstrous power. Compared to my bosch…it just gets you where you are going.

Initially I thought I might be disappointed with the travel @ 160 mm front, and 150 mm back, but this bike really handles fantastically from 0 - 20 mph and with most hits. ITs not a downhill bike, but not far from the feel if an enduro bike. I will probably upgrade to a 170mm Fox 38 up front eventually, but super happy with the 36 on this bike at the moment.



Downsides:

No higher travel - enduro / DH versions yet.

Only available in a few countries so far. If you want one in a country not supported yet, you have to buy it in one of those few countries like I did…and ship it. (took me about 2 months).

1st year out, not a bike for the risk adverse.


Overall:

All the technical aside, Riding an ebike, has never been so much fun, this bike is beyond SICK! Definitely Superior to anything out there on the market today in terms of feel, performance, and power density.

This is the ebike of my dreams, pretty much exactly what I’ve been wishing someone in the industry would do, for so long…for the last 8+ years in fact. FINALLY! A powerful, fast, high torque bike with decent battery capacity - that doesn’t weigh a ton, or feel like a shit ton of bricks.

I am absolutely love riding this Beast, such an awesome job and bike, DJI.

In conclusion, my initial review is that DJI Crushed it on all 3 eMTB parts: the battery, the drive, and the display. They did a pretty nice job on the 4th part too (the bike).

If you are going to ride in turbo all the time,your crankshaft bearings will not last long,im betting 1500 miles i reckon

 

[iXi]

I’ve decided that I’m gonna go Amflow. Do you recommend shelling out the hefty upgrade price for the Pro model? Roughly $4k USD. I imagine I can build a comparable spec to the pro with that kind of money. The only advantage I see with the Pro is a slick color way vs the boring silver of the standard.

Depends if you want the added extras that come with the pro. Carbon wheels, electronic dropper, shifter etc.

If you are going to swap out those components than buy the base. The black looks better than the silver IMHO but couldn't justify the cost just for the colourway alone.

 

[Just gan]

If you are going to ride in turbo all the time,your crankshaft bearings will not last long,im betting 1500 miles i reckon

Probably drivetrain as well.

 

[Just gan]

Probably drivetrain as well.

Hobby getting more expensive every year . Don't get extra power for nothing.

 

[Ridgydidge]

Probably drivetrain as well.

Well this is going to be interesting…. I trust you are wrong.

I’m a great believer that you need to have mechanical sympathy on any bicycle, let alone emtb. Chains and derailleurs etc are delicate things.

So, changing gears without chain snatch (mainly on the downshift ay - where the derailleur takes up chain slack) and riding in the appropriate gear (higher cadence) are paramount.

My bafang mid drive has done some multiple of 10,000 kms this way (I’m on my third battery).

We’ll see with the Avinox…

 

[Just gan]

Well this is going to be interesting…. I trust you are wrong.

I’m a great believer that you need to have mechanical sympathy on any bicycle, let alone emtb. Chains and derailleurs etc are delicate things.

So, changing gears without chain snatch (mainly on the downshift ay - where the derailleur takes up chain slack) and riding in the appropriate gear (higher cadence) are paramount.

My bafang mid drive has done some multiple of 10,000 kms this way (I’m on my third battery).

We’ll see with the Avinox

Well good luck i certainly hope you are right and i am wrong , I can only advise on my last 10,000 miles of experience on my Levo. Same battery but sadly many motors and multi drivetrains . Mud and rain plenty of it. But way more enjoyment than anything else. Ride on.

 

[tehviking]

I’ve decided that I’m gonna go Amflow. Do you recommend shelling out the hefty upgrade price for the Pro model? Roughly $4k USD. I imagine I can build a comparable spec to the pro with that kind of money. The only advantage I see with the Pro is a slick color way vs the boring silver of the standard.

I went with the base model and spent the $4k on upgrades myself, and now have a bunch of new take off parts as a bonus.

The stuff on the base model is kinda shockingly good, GX mechanical drivetrain, Fox 36/Float, 160mm cranks, MT5 brakes. I was very impressed on my test ride on the stock setup. If I had it to do over again and wasn’t so impatient I would just keep the base model stock until parts start annoying me and upgrade over time, but I was in a big hurry to do my dream build.

 

[Ridgydidge]

The stuff on the base model is kinda shockingly good

Second that - can’t fault it. Fork is supple off the top etc. Rear end does what it’s supposed to do with no nasty hang ups.

I have swapped out the stem and bars.

I will probs put a 36t chain ring in when I get around to it (never seem to use the lowest gear).

I can see a coil in my future…

But basically, it’s pretty much fine in the lower spec, as is.

 

[iXi]

Ye

I went with the base model and spent the $4k on upgrades myself, and now have a bunch of new take off parts as a bonus.

The stuff on the base model is kinda shockingly good, GX mechanical drivetrain, Fox 36/Float, 160mm cranks, MT5 brakes. I was very impressed on my test ride on the stock setup. If I had it to do over again and wasn’t so impatient I would just keep the base model stock until parts start annoying me and upgrade over time, but I was in a big hurry to do my dream build.

Yep only swapped the stem, dropper and rear wheel. The dropper and stem were a POS, the rear wheel was my preference for mullet configuration.

 

[David1960]

I’ve decided that I’m gonna go Amflow. Do you recommend shelling out the hefty upgrade price for the Pro model? Roughly $4k USD. I imagine I can build a comparable spec to the pro with that kind of money. The only advantage I see with the Pro is a slick color way vs the boring silver of the standard.

I think base version is very good. I have pro version - electronic h

 

[David1960]

I meant to say. I have pro version - the dropper post and seat is fab. Love the electronic gear shifting - but not essential. The fox 36 fork factory - is superb. But again not essential. When I tested base model and pro version they are very much alike. If I was wanting to save money would get base version and upgrade parts as and when. Both bikes are fab.

 

[Bikedriver19]

Hey there. I’m also in the US and want to order the Amflow...mainly bc of all the rave reviews on the motor. But Im deciding between the Amflow and an enduro type SL emtb like Decoy SN or Kenevo bc:
1. I currently ride a Levo SL, I'm trying to get a bike that's complimentary to it. Amflow may be too similar in geo/travel?
2. I do want an enduro bike with high stack height, slack HTA, etc. for better descending.
3. Although I do appreciate more power and range, I don't know if I necessarily crave it like many riders. I want to make sure I'm choosing a bike based off of my personal needs.

Do you think the Amflow descends similar to a Decoy SN or enduro type bike, like some youtubers say? I haven't ridden any of these options, I'm just speaking based off of assumptions.

Hey Ray Ray, Sorry for the delay, (hey, that rhymes? ) been out of the country.

Most of my bikes have been enduro types in the last years, and I was hesitant same as you, but I have to say the AMflow is really capable. IF I had to do it again, I might buy the base model, and upgrade to a 170 mm front Fox 38, .....have to admit, I love the electronic shifting. I will add that 38 when I blow out this shock eventually. But super happy with it, as is. IT is definitely not as fast at a bike with much more suspension on downhills could be, IF you are deceding most of the time, downhilling in the Swiss alps, for example,...maybe it is not the best bike. IT does decend really well, and more noticably, It climbs like Hell, the lighter weight makes a massivle difference in the feel of the bike downhill as well.

You might say you don't carve it...(but you can't miss what you don't and never have.) Its depressing to think of getting back on my bosch, or when I trade bikes with my riding buddies, so they can try it..... Too bad you can't try one in the US yet, but if you know a bud that has one, you should.... The motor is so awesome, it's worth it. Honestly Never had so much fun on a bike. I rode 5 days straight most recently, can't get enough.

If you want to Fly over to the east, you can try mine if you like

I see you got one coming, Pretty sure you will see.....There is no going back.

 

[Bikedriver19]

If you are going to ride in turbo all the time,your crankshaft bearings will not last long,im betting 1500 miles i reckon

Why do you think that, exactly?

The torque (and speed) , I would think, won't influence bearing life nearly as much as axial and radial loading, (or contamination - dirt in the bearings). Relative to the size of the bearing, and the speeds that ball bearings can handle, the speeds on a bike crank shaft, are really low. Do you think there is excessive axial or radial loading on the crankshaft bearings, how do you figure, from the design? Looking at the design, I don't see that, but time will tell, I will be at 1500 miles, soon. I pretty much always ride turbo. Only problem I've had so far is the rear axle coming loose on a ride (which really confused it as the senor is back there), but that's my fault, for not checking it for some time.

 

[Citylad77]

I hear Amflow have geared up to produce 27k Bikes, looks like they are going to be popular

 

[Dave238]

I hear Amflow have geared up to produce 27k Bikes, looks like they are going to be popular

Price or quantity? LOL just kidding.

 

[Citylad77]

Price or quantity? LOL just kidding.

No it’s a fair point, mine has been faultless. Builds QC I would give it a 9.5 -10

 

[P00KIENRAYRAY]

Hey Ray Ray, Sorry for the delay, (hey, that rhymes? ) been out of the country.

Most of my bikes have been enduro types in the last years, and I was hesitant same as you, but I have to say the AMflow is really capable. IF I had to do it again, I might buy the base model, and upgrade to a 170 mm front Fox 38, .....have to admit, I love the electronic shifting. I will add that 38 when I blow out this shock eventually. But super happy with it, as is. IT is definitely not as fast at a bike with much more suspension on downhills could be, IF you are deceding most of the time, downhilling in the Swiss alps, for example,...maybe it is not the best bike. IT does decend really well, and more noticably, It climbs like Hell, the lighter weight makes a massivle difference in the feel of the bike downhill as well.

You might say you don't carve it...(but you can't miss what you don't and never have.) Its depressing to think of getting back on my bosch, or when I trade bikes with my riding buddies, so they can try it..... Too bad you can't try one in the US yet, but if you know a bud that has one, you should.... The motor is so awesome, it's worth it. Honestly Never had so much fun on a bike. I rode 5 days straight most recently, can't get enough.

If you want to Fly over to the east, you can try mine if you like

I see you got one coming, Pretty sure you will see.....There is no going back.

Yes I got one coming. I’m one who likes to tinker and personalize my bikes with certain components, which is why I opted for the base model. I will throw on a different stem and carbon bar as well as mullet wheels. I got shipping notification that my Amflow is getting ready to leave Shenzen, China as of 4/8. So we’ll see when it gets here. I’m expecting 1-2 months shipping time, but possibly even longer bc I have heard that tariffs have somehow affected import logistics.

 

[Just gan]

Yes I got one coming. I’m one who likes to tinker and personalize my bikes with certain components, which is why I opted for the base model. I will throw on a different stem and carbon bar as well as mullet wheels. I got shipping notification that my Amflow is getting ready to leave Shenzen, China as of 4/8. So we’ll see when it gets here. I’m expecting 1-2 months shipping time, but possibly even longer bc I have heard that tariffs have somehow affected import logistics.

Slow boat from China then , be worth the wait.

 

[David1960]

Yes I got one coming. I’m one who likes to tinker and personalize my bikes with certain components, which is why I opted for the base model. I will throw on a different stem and carbon bar as well as mullet wheels. I got shipping notification that my Amflow is getting ready to leave Shenzen, China as of 4/8. So we’ll see when it gets here. I’m expecting 1-2 months shipping time, but possibly even longer bc I have heard that tariffs have somehow affected import logistics.I