2027 Orbea Wild LT Released - Avinox Powered

[Suns_PSD]

Chassis is supposed to be diff from the 2026 Bosch Gen5 - I think this reviewer was comparing it to the Rallon? Right? So he says it's very similar to the Rallon now. Orbea themselves say it is more compliant and less stiff.

AI says:

• Lower Bottom Bracket & Anti-Squat: The smaller footprint of the Avinox drive unit allowed Orbea to relocate the main pivot. This significantly drops the anti-squat curve (down to about 90% at sag), keeping the bike much more settled through heavy compressions and rough terrain. [1, 2]
• Slacker Head Tube Angle: The head tube sits at a more gravity-focused 63.9 degrees in the High setting (and 63.3 degrees in the Low setting), compared to the 64-degree angle of previous Bosch-equipped Wild models. [1, 2]
• "Steep 'n Deep" Frame Design: The frame uses a more compact, low-slung silhouette—heavily influenced by the Orbea Rallon—which lowers the center of gravity and allows riders to run much longer-travel dropper posts. [1, 2, 3]
• Frame Travel: The long-travel (LT) models feature 170 mm of rear travel paired with a 170 mm or 180 mm fork

And also AI claims that it has a more forgiving ride feel. "Kinematic Compliance: The perception of a less punishing ride comes entirely from the updated suspension. Increasing the leverage rate progression to 40% yields massive small-bump sensitivity and tracking. This allows the chassis to feel calmer and more glued to the ground, avoiding the deflective "tank" feel of past generations"

You have to be careful with AI though.

The comparison was to the reviewers 2025 Bosch Wild, he just stated that it was very similar to the Rallon.

A few notes though:
1) thankfully I don't ever hit my 20mph speed limiter when trail riding, so the 'wall' he mentions doesn't effect me. That said, I believe his review and it would be nice if the Bosch matched this feature. I've felt it on the road and it's, well like a wall like he said.
2) He mentioned lurching on the overrun on the Bosch. I never felt lurching but I have no reason to doubt his experience. Thankfully recently Bosch gave us the ability to turn that lame overrun off just last Monday and the bike is so much better like this. So no lurching and no overrun and it now feels like a bike.
3) I would not be able to stand a lower BB, due to extreme rocks. But I've never been a huge fan of super low BBs so I'm weird like this.
4) my head tube angle was measured and it's 63.6'. It's pretty common for manufacturers to be off on this stuff and even tires can change things. That said I run a tallish rear tire that should steepen things up and I'm still at 63.6'.
5) I'm 5'10" and run a 200mm AXS dropper or I could run a 210 OneUp. Sorry, but this isn't getting better. In fact with a 210 OneUp my rear tire hits my seat. That's just AI garbage.
6) The new Wild is going to feel more compliant with around 90% AS at sag versus 115% of the old one but also will sag under acceleration. 100% neutralizes AS but because bikes bounce over bumps and stuff you generally want a bit more to account for being a bit deeper in the travel. Generally you want around 100% AS up until about 40% sag for ideal rear suspension pedaling performance for an aggressive bike. The new one should feel smoother with less pedal feedback. That said, my Wild with a coil is super plush AND pedals quite well with the motor turned off so for my needs I'm happy with what I've got. I think the new one was optimized around the Neo shock, and unless you have the Neo shock, you are leaving performance on the table with this set up. I mean, pedaling even matters on DH bikes.

The bike is amazing for sure, but I don't think it's a leap. I do think it's a bit more designed around descending and DH performance where the old one was more of an All Mountain bike.

 

[Gropec]

Hey all,

I will receive next wek my M10

For the size M Orbea claim MAX sit post insertion is 335 " steed and deep"

Can someone confirm please

I would like to buy a 225mm travel sit post with max insertion 310mm, like that i can put the sit post all the way down, flush to the frame to have maximum clearance when saddle is all the way il low position without compromise my pedaling feel when saddle is all the way up!!

Rockshox AXS 31.6MM 225MM

Thank you!!

 

[Ndanger]

I'm still at 63.6

Could I ask how you like the slack setting and or if you notice it in technical uphill areas

 

[Gj1975]

Interested in perspectives on the Wild LT vs the Atherton S170e….

As the title suggests I am considering the above two bikes.
I actually have the Orbea on preorder. (M10 mullet)
Have dug as much as I can into reviews. Almost all seem to say both have great traction, wild a bit lighter, bit more poppy, Atherton faster ground hugging.
Both have get resoundingly positive reviews.

The reduced power tuned approach of the Orbea is interesting. Vs the industrial design and full power of the Atherton

My riding style would suit both. I used to describe it as endure the ups to enjoy the downs, but that seems to have passed with the advent of Emtb. Bike will get used for everything from power laps on local trails to BPW and maybe I’ll put my big boy pants on and go to Dyfi. (Have that trip planned for the r new year).

My current bike is an Orbea Rise.
Obviously shorter travel and lighter than both bikes, but frequently find myself pushing that bikes limits.

Thoughts appreciated

 

[Suns_PSD]

Could I ask how you like the slack setting and or if you notice it in technical uphill areas

I had already gotten used to my previous Relay which was at 62.9', which was much too slack imo.
Slack bikes don't bother me regarding handling. What bothers me is the forks get a lot more stiction once you drop below about 63.5'.
You'll be fine anywhere in that 63.5 -64' range imo.
GL

 

[Suns_PSD]

Hey all,

I will receive next wek my M10

For the size M Orbea claim MAX sit post insertion is 335 " steed and deep"

Can someone confirm please

I would like to buy a 225mm travel sit post with max insertion 310mm, like that i can put the sit post all the way down, flush to the frame to have maximum clearance when saddle is all the way il low position without compromise my pedaling feel when saddle is all the way up!!

Rockshox AXS 31.6MM 225MM

Thank you!!

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How tall are you?
Will you be running the same length cranks compared to your current bike?
Same pedals, shoes & seat?
Does your current bike have a modern STA?
Are you buying the mullet or full 29er?
Importantly, on your current bike, with your seat at the correct height that you prefer, use a yard/ meter stick to measure from the top of the pedal to the top of the seat and post that info. The pedal should be in the position furthest from the seat. Not straight down but somewhere around the 5 o'clock position looking from the drive side of the bike.
Unless you are a very tall rider for a size medium, I think you have close to no chance of this dropper fitting you and in fact I doubt that you could fit the 200mm AXS and would hate for you to waste $800 on the experiment.

Just some rough numbers here:

The bike you ordered has a seat tube length of 405mm, but the max insertion depth is 335mm, however the AXS 225mm has an insertion depth of 300mm. It's another 287mm long.
That means from you BB centerline a 225mm AXS to the rails would be 692mm. (405 + 287). Most seats add right at 50mm more so that means from your BB to the top of your seat 742mm. Let's add 145mm for crank length but adding some back for pedal height and now you have a length of 887mm, or 35.5". At 5'10.5" and long legs I have a distance from top of pedal to top of seat of 33.75" for comparison.

There are other parts of the equation that are more subtle. How thick are your pedals and shoes for example but also the furthest distance is not straight downward but is actually when your lower foot is at about the 5 O'clock position (drive side of bike) so you can add 10-20mm for that.

It's a real stretch that you can reach the pedals on a medium with a 225mm AXS, unless you are 6'2"+ or are running 75mm cranks. Also, the AXS cannot be shimmed like the OneUp and others can be, something to consider.

The other issue I found with my own Wild is that with a totally slammed seat on a OneUp, my seat was in danger of contacting my tire at full bottom out. So even then I really could not utilize the absolute lowest position possible.

You are most likely limited to a 175mm AXS, depending on height.

 

[Gropec]

How tall are you?
Will you be running the same length cranks compared to your current bike?
Same pedals and shoes?
Does your current bike have a modern STA?
Are you buying the mullet or full 29er?
Importantly, on your current bike, with your seat at the correct height that you prefer, use a yard/ meter stick to measure from the top of the pedal to the top of the seat and post that info. The pedal should be in the position furthest from the seat. Not straight down but somewhere around the 5 o'clock position looking from the drive side of the bike.
Unless you are a very tall rider for a size medium I think you have close to no chance of this dropper fitting you and in fact I doubt that you could fit the 200mm AXS and would hate for you to waste $800 on the experiment.

I currently have a levo gen 4 size s3 ( M )
I already use a 200mm reverb axs b1 which is all the way down into the frame . ( 3cm remaining + valve body/battery, so roughly 5cm )
Bike has the same sit frame size height than the orbea which is 405mm
So i am at 450mm saddle down ( without counting the saddle stack )
But the Spech has 290mm max insertion against 330mm for the Orbea

My guess is i can have the same maximum height with a lower saddle in low position ?

Here in french Alpes you mainly have to nose turn every tight corner and i have hematoma on the thighs

So if i can wim 3 cm i take it

 

[Suns_PSD]

The AXS 200mm overall length is 530mm.
The AXS 225mm overall length is 587mm.
Assuming everything else is the same (in reality the Wild will have a steeper STA which helps your cause) you need to be able to mount the dropper 57mm (587 - 530) lower to achieve the same seat height.
However, the insertion depth of the Wild is 40mm better/ lower (330-290). So, you are still 17mm (57-40) short of what is needed and the seat would still be 17mm higher on the Wild with the 225mm AXS. You might be able to make this difference up with shorter cranks, the Wild's steeper STA & an SQ Labs saddle which has a very low stack height.

You must be a tall rider on a medium!

GL.

 

[Gropec]

The AXS 200mm overall length is 530mm.
The AXS 225mm overall length is 587mm.
Assuming everything else is the same (in reality the Wild will have a steeper STA which helps your cause) you need to be able to mount the dropper 57mm (587 - 530) lower to achieve the same seat height.
However, the insertion depth of the Wild is 40mm better/ lower (330-290). So, you are still 17mm (57-40) short of what is needed and the seat would still be 17mm higher on the Wild with the 225mm AXS. You might be able to make this difference up with shorter cranks, the Wild's steeper STA & an SQ Labs saddle which has a very low stack height.

You must be a tall rider on a medium!

GL.

Thanks to have taken the time to measure, relly appreciate !

I am 178cm tall

Short upper body and long legs
I am around 83cm inseam

When you say i will be 17mm higher with the 225mm you mean with the saddle all the way up?
Sorry english is not my native language, in am a Frechy

The AXS 225mm overall length is 587mm.
Assuming everything else is the same (in reality the Wild will have a steeper STA which helps your cause) you need to be able to mount the dropper 57mm (587 - 530) lower to achieve the same seat height.
However, the insertion depth of the Wild is 40mm better/ lower (330-290). So, you are still 17mm (57-40) short of what is needed and the seat would still be 17mm higher on the Wild with the 225mm AXS. You might be able to make this difference up with shorter cranks, the Wild's steeper STA & an SQ Labs saddle which has a very low stack height.

You must be a tall rider on a medium!

GL.

 

[Suns_PSD]

Thanks to have taken the time to measure, relly appreciate !

I am 178cm tall

Short upper body and long legs
I am around 83cm inseam

When you say i will be 17mm higher with the 225mm you mean with the saddle all the way up?
Sorry english is not my native language, in am a Frechy

Yes, 17mm higher with the saddle all of the way up.

No problem on the language barrier. My grandmother was (RIP) born on Corsica and raised in Marseille and I speak no French at all, so you are doing better than me.

 

[Gropec]

Yes, 17mm higher with the saddle all of the way up.

No problem on the language barrier. My grandmother was (RIP) born on Corsica and raised in Marseille and I speak no French at all, so you are doing better than me.

Thanks again to reply me!!!
I can easily live with 17mm higher sit post as i feel on my levo that i could raise up a bit more the saddle ( but i will have more hematoma )

I am around Nice, 2h hours from Marseille, a really good place for mtb

 

[zerofunds]

Was sold on the mondraker zendit but this bike is pretty special also, looking forward to the reviews and comparisons and how the motor tune performs.

 

[deanFBM]

Now some more people have these in their hands, is anyone up for measuring reach, stack, head angle and BB height?